The Next Conversation

Argue Less, Talk More

By: Jefferson Fisher

Narrated by: Jefferson Fisher

THE INSTANT NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLER

From communication expert Jefferson Fisher, the definitive book on making your next conversation the one that changes everything

No matter who you’re talking to, The Next Conversation gives you immediately actionable strategies and phrases that will forever change how you communicate. Jefferson Fisher, trial lawyer and one of the leading voices on real-world communication, offers a tried-and-true framework that will show you how to transform your life and your relationships by improving your next conversation.

Fisher has gained millions of followers through short, simple, practical videos teaching people how to argue less and talk more. Whether it’s handling a heated conversation, dealing with a difficult personality, or standing your ground with confidence, his down-to-earth teachings have helped countless people navigate life’s toughest situations. Now for the first time, Fisher has distilled his three-part communication system (Say it with control, Say it with confidence, Say it to connect) that can easily be applied to any situation.

You will learn:

• Why you should never "win" an argument
• How to assert yourself and communicate with intention
• How to set boundaries and frame conversations
• Why saying less is often more
• How to overcome conflict with connection

The Next Conversation will give you practical phrases that will lead to powerful results, from breaking down defensiveness in a hard talk with a family member to finding your own assertive voice at the boardroom conference table. Your every word matters, and by controlling how you communicate every day, you will create waves of positive impact that will resonate throughout your relationships to last a lifetime.

Everything you want to say, and how you want to say it, can be found in The Next Conversation.

©2025 Jefferson Fisher (P)2025 Penguin Audio

Critic reviews

“Jefferson Fisher combines his unique expertise and extraordinary ability to distill evidence-based approaches into easy-to-remember tools that work the first time and every time toward more effective dialogue. His work and this book stand to positively transform the way that you relate to others. Embracing the knowledge in The Next Conversation will vastly improve your life.”—Andrew Huberman, PhD, professor, Department of Neurobiology at Stanford University School of Medicine, creator of the Huberman Lab podcast

"We all have difficult people in our lives and we all need to have difficult conversations. Knowing exactly what to say when the pressure runs high is where we get stuck. No one is better than Jefferson Fisher to show you how to start. The Next Conversation gives you the tools to change your life, one conversation at a time."—Mel Robbins, #1 New York Times bestselling author of The Let Them Theory and host of The Mel Robbins Podcast

"A special book that will show you how to approach every conversation and negotiation with confidence and clarity. Jefferson Fisher has spent years learning how communication really works, and he is the real-world guide you need for your difficult conversations in the boardroom and at home. If you are a student of what makes people tick, you need this book."—Chris Voss, internationally bestselling author of Never Split the Difference and Founder of The Black Swan Group

Listening and learning

This book has genuinely changed my life! I love listening and jotting down key takeaways as I go. I’ve been following Jefferson on Instagram for a while and always enjoy his quick, insightful videos on communication. Hearing him narrate his own book adds so much depth to the concepts he shares in his reels—I often catch myself binge-watching them back to back! Listening to him describe real-life examples and techniques are truly priceless. His Instagram account is awesome, but this audiobook offers so much more and it is the icing on the cake!

Definitely worth a listen

This book is a lot of repeat of his podcast, which I highly recommended. I personally like it and will listen to it several times as the subject matter needs to be practiced. I plan on setting out stick notes for reminders. This is a truly important topic. I think this should be taught earlier in life, but better late than never. I think it will help with our children as well as adults I’ve spent years listening and reading up on emotional intelligence, I’m a very reactive emotional person so I need this in my life. I suffer anxiety but have difficulty taking most medications so I choose to take the time to learn about my behaviour and my communication with loved ones. It’s difficult but well worth it because isn’t that really the point in life to grow as humans. Better communication can solve so many problems before they start. I think Jefferson is easy to listen to and lays it out in easy to understand format. Unlike a lot of personal growth books this book is not filled with boring case studies It’s all very logical and makes sense. Simple and practical. Thank you Jefferson for giving us these tools to change our mindset and be better humans.

Great book

I enjoyed listening to this book. Jefferson gave practical tips and examples that I could use immediately.

Empowering book.

Easy read with tons of easy to implement tools and tips to communicate the real you!!!

Amazing!

I love this audible book! Jefferson reads it himself, which he has the best soothing Texas accent! And he's amazing at teaching you how to have those conversations that maybe you'd rather not have and excellent at teaching you how to apply it in your life! Highly recommend!!

great

a must listen for anyone who engaged with a boss at work and lost. Fisher really gives you the tools.

Life changing

Step by step guidance to make a conversation better. Strengthen relationships with compassion and empathy.

Transformative, restorative & redemptive.,

What resonates with me the most.. that struck the main artery… the gift of pause!!! Incorporating this technique into my everyday life has transformed my interpersonal communication and restored my faith & confidence with others. I now have more productive, engaging and meaningful conversations. Thank you Jefferson Fisher for making me a better person!! Love what you’re doing. Open up a school!!!

A must read/listen

This book is life changing if you put it into action!About to restart it!

Difficult communication help!

I have been struggling with worring about a very difficult conversation desperately needed. Today is the day and I feel strong enough to have that difficult conversation.