• What You Need to Know about Narcissistic Abuse: 2-in-1 Book Bundle Featuring Start Here and Out of the Fog

  • Understanding Narcissists, Sociopaths, or Other Types of Toxic People in Your Life
  • By: Dana Morningstar
  • Narrated by: Dana Morningstar
  • Length: 17 hrs and 11 mins
  • 4.9 out of 5 stars (125 ratings)

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What You Need to Know about Narcissistic Abuse: 2-in-1 Book Bundle Featuring Start Here and Out of the Fog

By: Dana Morningstar
Narrated by: Dana Morningstar
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In this box set, you get the best-selling book Out of the Fog, and you get Start Here included as a bonus.

The audiobook Out of the Fog will help you get out of the of confusion and into the clarity that you are looking for.

FOG is an acronym that stands for "Fear, Obligation, and Guilt". These three emotions are often at the core of manipulation and are often how narcissists, sociopaths, and other types of emotional manipulators go about controlling their targets.

However, this type of destructive manipulation isn't just limited to narcissists and sociopaths.

There is no shortage of people with well-intended bad advice out there who unintentionally fall into the FOG as well, and push targets of abuse into keeping the relationship going.

The FOG is one of the main reasons that people stay "stuck" in emotionally abusive relationships for so long, why they continue to get involved with abusive people, why they feel that they are the problem, and why they tend to feel that the abuse is somehow their fault.

When a person is being manipulated they have a hard time figuring out who has the problem, what is normal, what is problematic, and if their wants, needs, and feelings are valid. The disastrous effects of being lost in the FOG are confusion, crazymaking, people-pleasing, and erosion of boundaries.

What makes this well-intended bad advice so damaging is that, on the surface, it seems like good advice - especially if it's coming from people who seem to have our best interests in mind, such as friends, family, church members, support group members, or a therapist.

Some examples of this well-intended bad advice that comes from other people is:

"Who are you to judge?" "No one is perfect". "You need to forgive them". "She's your mother, you need to have a relationship with her...she's not getting any younger you know". "Commitment is forever".

What can be so crazymaking for targets is that they are often getting two very different messages. On one hand, they are told that they need to work towards a solution, and on the other, they are told that need to leave a partner who lies, cheats, steals, hits, yells, or belittles them.

This audiobook compares and contrasts of these concepts so that targets of any type of manipulation and abuse can make a more empowered decision.

Some of the concepts covered are:

  • Who are you to judge vs. being discerning
  • No one is perfect vs. tolerating abuse
  • You need to forgive them vs. keeping yourself safe
  • A parent vs. a predator
  • Commitment vs. Codependency
  • Self-love vs. selfishness
  • A person acting the part vs. a person actually changing
  • Gut instincts vs. hypervigilance
  • A friend vs. someone being friendly
  • Caring vs. caretaking
  • Being in love with them vs. being in love with who they pretended to be
  • Workable behavior vs. deal breakers
  • Acceptance vs. allowance
  • Going through so much together vs. being put through so much by them
  • Sincerity vs. intensity
  • Healthy bonding vs. trauma bonding
  • Insincere remorse vs. sincere remorse
  • Reacting vs. responding
  • And many more.

Plus, as a bonus, you’ll also get Start Here: A Crash Course Guide to Understanding, Navigating, and Healing From Narcissistic Abuse to help you understand all of the concepts, terminology, and FAQs surrounding narcissistic abuse. In this bonus offer, you’ll discover terms such as "Flying Monkeys", "triangulation", "projection", "covert narcissist", "parentification", and dozens more.

©2019 Dana Morningstar (P)2019 Dana Morningstar

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Excellent Guide to Understanding Narcissism

I really enjoyed listening to this book. It was extremely informative and eye opening.

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Helpful!

Helpful and eye opening! Much needed information!… I found many “a-haa” moments while listening!

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Wow. I never realized

This book needs to be reviewed by every gal before dating. Wow I learned so much.

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This is what you need!

This is what you need! This book helped me to realize that what I went through in my childhood, and subsequent marriages was absolutely abuse. This author helped me navigate through the healing process, and the armoring up process to protect myself from this abuse ever happening again. I highly recommend this book!

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Sherry

Wow!!! This nails it fully !! I’m absolutely blown away by the knowledge this book has given me !
Thanks to my friend ANNA for sending me a link . I’m feeling so clear now and I know beyond a shadow of doubt I am not a borderline but instead a survivor or narcissistic abuse . 🤜🏻❤️🤛🏻

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Invaluable!

A must read for all, but especially those who have been through this harrowing experience. Validating, informative and in a strange way comforting.

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Brilliant, As Far as It Goes...

I enjoyed every minute of this bundled audiobook and am listening to it repeatedly to seize upon all the details of the author's full knowledge on the subject of narcissistic abuse. This treatise is likely the best book on the subject I've ever encountered. I am finally out of the fog and can confidently address virtually all the crazy-making wherever, and with whomever, I find habitual problematic behavior. There is, however, an extraordinary untold story about females with narcissistic personality traits and their provocative and dangerous behavior. Not to rationalize male narcissists in any way, shape, or form, but often narcissistic males behave the way they do in response to a seemingly unending stream of seductive and teasing women. Provocatively dressed, they often dismiss males outright. If they aren't rich, or handsome, or educated, or athletically built, or for any other reason, they are useless. Men aren't inclined to complain about such things the way women do; instead, they'll internalize their anger and cheat and mistreat women in a whole host of ways when they do find a date. Some will do the MGTOW thing. Sad as this is, someone needs to ferret out the female narcissist and try to get to the bottom of their often horrible narcissistic behavior toward men. Still, hold men accountable for their actions toward women. That said, the author, Dana, Morningstar, should win an award, if she hasn't already, for her excellent work on narcissistic abuse. Her professional-caliber narration made it easy to listen, and the organization of the material enabled the reader to pause and reflect on the steady stream of eye-opening, fog lifting points the author presented.

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A Must Read For Survivors Of Narcissism!

There was so much useful information in the text, I couldn't stop reading it. Anyone who has ever experienced narcissim in any of its forms...Do yourself a favor, and add this book to your arsenal of guides in helping you gain the insight necessary to understand harmful narcissistic behaviors.

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Thank you for this!

The clarity was amazing, thank you for sharing these stories.
Good to know the craziness can be explained!

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Life changing

Though I've read The Narcissist's Playbook and other books on narcissism, this book set really helped me come to terms with what I was experiencing. It was honestly a little shocking and sickening to be awakened, but I also feel so much more free. I felt so isolated and these books helped me to at least be able to start validating myself. So many people don't understand emotional abuse, especially when they don't live it or if they already have healthy boundaries. I wish this was taught growing up and in schools, but maybe it doesn't hit home the same for those who have not experienced abuse. Thank you, Dana!

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