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Next Up: Narcissism

By: Dr. Jaime Zuckerman
  • Summary

  • With a real, raw, and relatable approach, clinical psychologist and narcissism expert, Dr. Jaime Zuckerman, takes a hard look at narcissistic abuse and its devastating effects across relationships of all types. Next Up: Narcissism explores all things narcissism and mental health; educating listeners on the patterns of narcissistic abuse, including gaslighting, love bombing, and coercive control. Listen in each week as we breakdown these toxic behaviors, and offer concrete strategies and actionable steps to help you navigate these toxic relationships. Through in-depth discussions, Q&A’s and expert guests, you will learn the skills and tactics to unravel this web of chaos, helping you to move forward into a healthier, happier and healed life.
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Episodes
  • Episode 9: Coercive Control and Domestic Violence with Laura Richards
    Jun 14 2024
    “Coercive control is about trying to take away someone’s autonomy and their agency,” explains Laura Richards, a renowned criminal behavioral analyst and expert on domestic violence. In this episode, Dr. Z sits down with Laura and dives into the concept of coercive control, a form of domestic abuse that is often misunderstood and frequently dismissed. Dr. Z and Laura discuss the misuse of terms like “narcissistic abuse” and “toxic relationships,” stressing the importance of proper terminology and identification to prevent further harm. Laura also highlights the long-standing societal variables at play that are responsible for perpetuating domestic violence within relationships. The conversation explores high profile cases of domestic violence such as Gabby Petito and Lauren Dunne Astley to illustrate coercive control and its tragic outcomes. Laura discusses the media’s portrayal of domestic violence in relationships, noting how it often memorializes male perpetrators while perpetuating victim-blaming. Laura also shares her tireless efforts to have coercive control legally recognized as a form of domestic abuse, emphasizing the need for continued advocacy, improved education, and increased awareness. Her incredible work aims to change societal attitudes and legal frameworks to provide better protection and support for victims of coercive control. Quotes “We have to think about coercive control in a micro way, in a macro way. And really, it’s about trying to take away someone’s autonomy and their agency. It’s about utter domination of the individual. So the perpetrator looks to subjugate them and reduces their autonomy and their agency so that they focus on the perpetrator’s needs. It’s about an unfreedom. And it’s quite important that we think about coercive control and the abuser. What are they seeking to achieve?” (06:59 | Laura Richards)“I really want people to just think about these terms—toxic relationships—but the relationship on its own is not the problem. It’s the abuser. And we have to focus on them and name them to help the victim understand what’s happening to them because 52% of victims don’t even know that they’re being coercively controlled; because as women and girls, we’re conditioned that men hold power.” (14:51 | Laura Richards) “Women don’t hold power and that’s the power imbalance. That’s what coercive control is about—a power imbalance. So I’ve put the word on freedom, but also power imbalance that’s being exploited. And it can be exploited at family court, in civil court, in criminal court, because those systems are created by men to protect men. So what I’m trying to do is reverse that process. And that’s why it’s girls and women who are oppressed. Men are not oppressed. They are the ones who hold power.” (53:36 | Laura Richards) Links Sign Up for my LIVE Summer Support Group here: https://www.drjaimezuckerman.com/workshops Connect with Laura Richards: https://www.youtube.com/@crimeanalyst https://www.crime-analyst.com https://wondery.com/shows/real-crime-profile/ www.thelaurarichards.com https://www.dashriskchecklist.com/ Insta: https://www.instagram.com/laurarichards999/?hl=en https://www.instagram.com/crimeanalyst/?hl=en TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@crimeanalystpod?lang=en Twitter: https://twitter.com/laurarichards99 https://twitter.com/thecrimeanalyst Connect with Dr. Jaime Zuckerman: https://www.drjaimezuckerman.com/ https://www.zgrouptherapy.com/ https://www.instagram.com/dr.z_psychologist/ https://www.tiktok.com/@dr.z_psychologist Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm
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    1 hr and 9 mins
  • Episode 8: The Role of Fitness and Wellness in Healing from Trauma with Karena Dawn
    Jun 7 2024

    “Be a kid. What did you love doing as a kid? Don’t forget those little moments because that’s when you’re carefree and just doing all the things—play, have fun," advises Karena Dawn, a renowned figure in the fitness and wellness industry. In this episode, Karena and Dr. Z explore the journey of healing after narcissistic abuse, drawing from Karena’s personal and professional experiences.

    Karena shares how during her personal therapy journey, she came to the realization that her own mother had Narcissistic Personality Disorder. It was this awareness that helped her gain a better understanding of their complicated relationship, fueling her commitment to healing. She emphasizes the importance of setting boundaries and prioritizing self-care, and discusses how reconnecting with her childhood joys and love of fitness became integral parts of her recovery.

    Through her initiatives, Tone It Up and The Big Silence, Karena promotes the therapeutic power of exercise, meditation, and mindfulness. Dr. Z and Karena offer practical advice for healing, and stress how this is a comprehensive process, encouraging listeners to find what works best for them.

    Quotes

    • “It is not easy. And then I started Tone It Up to share the message of fitness, movement, and mindfulness. And now with The Big Silence, talking about mental health. It’s all taken what I went through in my youth, and then figuring out how I healed myself naturally. And then opening up that stigma with The Big Silence so that other people don’t have to suffer in silence.” (21:01 | Karena Dawn)
    • “Do you think people should cut family members out if they are narcissists? I think it depends on the situation. You’re talking about situations where it was so bad; where your cortisol levels were through the roof to the point where you’re getting skin rashes, which means your entire body’s inflamed, right? And so this is why, obviously, why I wanted to have you on, but also for people to understand just how connected our mind and our bodies are.” (31:09 | Karena Dawn & Dr. Z)
    • “Be a kid. What did you love doing as a kid? Don’t forget those little moments because that’s when you’re carefree and just doing all the things—play, have fun.” (40:02 | Karena Dawn)

    Links

    Sign Up for my LIVE Summer Support Group here: https://www.drjaimezuckerman.com/workshops

    Connect with Karena Dawn:

    https://karenadawn.com/

    https://my.toneitup.com/

    https://www.instagram.com/karenadawn/

    https://www.instagram.com/the.big.silence/

    Connect with Dr. Jaime Zuckerman:

    https://www.drjaimezuckerman.com/

    https://www.zgrouptherapy.com/

    https://www.instagram.com/dr.z_psychologist/

    https://www.tiktok.com/@dr.z_psychologist

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    43 mins
  • Episode 7: 8 Reasons Why Women "Don't Just Leave"
    Jun 5 2024

    “It’s a big problem in our society that women are just not believed the first time because people think they’re trying to get attention or money,” Dr. Z explains, addressing the pervasive disbelief of women who report abuse. In this episode, she delves into how societal skepticism, particularly through the lens of recent high-profile cases such as P. Diddy and Cassie, can portray women who report abuse as seeking attention or financial gain.

    Dr. Z highlights eight multifaceted reasons that keep women stuck in abusive relationships: fear of escalated violence when leaving, financial dependency, lack of alternative shelter, minimal social support, inability to recognize the abuse as “abuse,” erosion of self-identity, unemployment, and concerns over child custody. These factors are compounded by the overall lack of societal support and understanding of domestic abuse. This episode calls for a societal shift to better support and believe abuse survivors the FIRST time.

    Quotes

    • “We should believe women the first time. We’re so caught up as a society in assuming that people are bad and lying. But I want people to understand that why on earth would somebody go through such a traumatic situation? And for what? Why?” (07:37 | Dr. Z)
    • “You need to understand the absolute identity breakdown that occurs in these types of relationships. You are mentally brainwashed. You are not in a position to just leave. Think about cults for a second… When they leave, they have to be deprogrammed and they have to go through this whole rigorous process to alter their way of thinking that has been implanted in them for so long. So why is it so difficult for people to understand that that same process—maybe varied here and there—is exactly what happens in narcissistic abuse? That’s the whole point. Control and manipulation—that’s it.” (11:04 | Dr. Z)
    • “This is why women don't come forward… You can tell I'm extremely passionate about this. I have been really angry at the Diddy/Cassie comments that I have been seeing, especially that ‘it takes two to tango.’ That’s one of the most ignorant comments I can think of.” (36:15 | Dr. Z)

    Links

    Sign Up for my LIVE Summer Support Group here: https://www.drjaimezuckerman.com/workshops

    Connect with Dr. Jaime Zuckerman:

    https://www.drjaimezuckerman.com/

    https://www.zgrouptherapy.com/

    https://www.instagram.com/dr.z_psychologist/

    https://www.tiktok.com/@dr.z_psychologist

    Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm

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    45 mins

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