• Great Work, Beautiful Thinking, Meaningful Life. A conversation with Charlotte Lockhart, Michael Bungay Stanier, and Steven Morris

  • Jun 4 2023
  • Length: 1 hr and 9 mins
  • Podcast
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Great Work, Beautiful Thinking, Meaningful Life. A conversation with Charlotte Lockhart, Michael Bungay Stanier, and Steven Morris

  • Summary

  • In this episode, Steven Morris, Charlotte Lockhart, and Michael Bungay Stanier, discuss:

    • How employers should partner with employees
    • Three elements that need to be balanced to make a goal that matters
    • Why does your goal need to be daunting?
    • Lessons learned from the pandemic for employers

    Key Takeaways:

    • As employers, we have to remember that we borrow our people from their lives. Someone has a life and they bring it to their workplace. In order for our businesses to operate, we need to partner with our people, but we must only partner with a part of their life and not the whole.
    • There are three elements that need to be balanced in order to make a goal that matters to you. The goal needs to be thrilling, meaning it excites you while at the same time, it has to be balanced against the fact that it is important. This means that it has an element of giving back to the world.
    • Your goal has to be important, thrilling, but also, daunting. When looking at your goal, you’ve got to ask the question of “is this a place where I’m going to learn, grow and stretch?” We unlock our greatness by working on hard things, so you have to work on hard things.
    • The pandemic granted us some insights into what the future of work could be. Most importantly, we’ve got to ask employees what would work best for them and listen and implement changes that make a difference. Design your business for all the people that it matters to, which is your customers but also your own people.


    "Understanding that moving forward as businesses, we cannot operate without partnering with our people. When you partner with someone, you partner with their entire life, but you're only entitled to part of it." — Charlotte Lockhart

    “If you don't have the right goal, it doesn't matter how smart it is. It doesn't matter how good or wonderful your measurableness is if you're working on the wrong things… We unlock our greatness by working on the hard things, you have to pick the things that are thrilling and important.” - Michael Bungay Stanier

    Connect With Charlotte Lockhart:

    Website: https://www.4dayweek.com/

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlottelockhartnz/

    Connect With Michael Bungay Stanier:

    Website: https://www.mbs.works/

    Books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B002QK41GQ

    Get "The Beautiful Business" book by clicking on this link: https://the-beautiful-business.com/

    Connect With Steven Morris

    Website: https://matterco.co/

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevenmorris111/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/matter_smorris/

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/StevenMMorris

    Steven Morris, CEO of Matter Consulting is an ever-curious life-seeker, brand and culture building expert, advisor, author, and speaker.

    With over 27 years of entrepreneurial experience, he has served as a trusted advisor to over 3,000 business leaders and evolved more than 250 brands and cultures, including Google, Habitat for Humanity, Samsung, and Disney.

    His best-selling book, "The Beautiful Business," and his widely read Insights blog are a testament to his consulting expertise in creating unignorable, magnetic, and sustainable companies.

    His diverse interests, including meditation, fine art painting, surfing, and beekeeping, infuse his work with creativity, soul, and a deep understanding of the human experience.

    You can find more podcasts and join 30,000+ other brilliant and soulful readers of his weekly INSIGHTS blog at MatterCo.

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