On today’s episode we explore what happens when change doesn’t happen.

Professor Dr Megan Davis is a professor of constitutional law known for her work in creating the Uluru Statement from the Heart and advocating for the 2023 Voice referendum.

As an international human rights lawyer, Scientia Professor, and academic, Megan discusses the lessons she learned about engaging with the heart, and not just the head.

· How she finds the motivation to keep going after such a huge set-back

· The complexity of poverty and how vulnerability never leaves you

· Why she finds it difficult to call herself a leader

· And the importance of being the first Indigenous Australian to be elected to a UN body

Host: Jenelle McMaster Deputy CEO Oceania and Markets Leader at EY.

Guest: Professor Dr Megan Davis Pro Vice-Chancellor Society, Scientia Professor UNSW

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“It was the most horrendous thing that's ever happened, it was really challenging, and unfortunately made me distrustful of people, which is just not my normal stance”

Not many people can say they have built something out of nothing and have stayed true to their vision and purpose.

Simon Crowe, the Founder and Managing Director of Grill’d, is on a mission to liberate burgers from badness and pioneer sustainable food practices.

For someone so accomplished, Simon emanates a rare vulnerability. He talks candidly about the many challenges he has faced:

>his public court battle with a former co-owner and business partner

>taking on the Goliath that is McDonald's

>his superpowers that have helped him succeed

>and why he’s a better businessman than a friend.

Host: Jenelle McMaster Deputy CEO Oceania and Markets Leader at EY.

Guest: Simon Crowe Founder and Managing Director of Grill’d

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"What's the legacy we want to leave our kids? I don't want my kids to grow up in a world where women are abused and racism is just part of the DNA, absolutely not required, shouldn't be here, so how do we change it?"

When it comes to the achievement of gender equality and the fight for human rights, the path to success requires big changes to happen. With International Women’s Day this month, CEO of UN Women Australia, Simone Clarke, shares the lessons she’s learned on becoming comfortable with discomfort, creating the space to make big changes, and looking for moments of hope in even the darkest of times.

Host: Jenelle McMaster Deputy CEO Oceania and Markets Leader at EY.

Guest: Simone Clarke CEO of UN Women Australia.

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