What if the fear of burning out and overworking is actually causing the burnout? And what if working harder and smarter is the best way to avoid it? Today on the And She Spoke Podcast, we are diving deep into our thoughts on burnout. Listen in to hear all about the history of the term, its three stages, the dangers of wanting to be burnt out to prove your work ethic, and why it’s lost its meaning.

Often, we mistake dissatisfaction with our lives with burnout, and in today’s episode, we explore the culturally contagious and problematic term before discussing what true burnout is.

We even talk about the dangers of being fearful of burnout, why you should always be working hard, and much more! Finally, we challenge listeners to avoid using the word ‘burnout’ and to stop being fearful of overworking and even underworking.

Key Points From This Episode:

• An overview of the history of burnout.
• Three stages of burnout: exhaustion, depersonalization/cynicism, and sense of effectiveness.
• Why ‘burnout’ has lost its meaning and can be mistaken for dissatisfaction with your life.
• How being burnt out brings a sense of value to being hard-working and why that’s dangerous.
• The phrase “I’m so burnt out” as culturally contagious and why it’s hurting us.
• Why not working to the best of your ability out of fear of burning out is dangerous.
• When true burnout happens and how to avoid it.
• A challenge: don’t use the word ‘burnout’ and don’t be scared of hard work in 2024.

JOY: Hand Pan

Hustle: Diary of a ceo

Resources:

• The Luminaries LIVE, January 2024 cohort
• The VISIBLE Course

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There are far too many women today who won’t make themselves visible due to a fear of visibility itself — a fear of being targeted, trashed, and taken down.

Joining us today is return guest, Kelly Diels, who always brings new and insightful ideas to the conversation. Kelly is a business teacher for Culture Makers where she helps socially conscious entrepreneurs achieve, not just financial success, but critical gains for social justice.

Hear us unpack the intricacies of cancel-culture and public trashing, the fears that stop women from putting their work out into the world, and what can be done to address this.

You’ll hear personal insights from both Jeni & Kelly about their experiences, the key lessons they took from it, what this type of targeting demonstrates about society’s treatment of women, and why communal action is essential if we want to change these cultural trends.

To learn more about the forces behind these movements and the antidote to online trashing, be sure to tune in to the important conversation!

Here’s a sneak peek of what we discuss:

• Detailing the fears Kelly’s clients have around being targeted online.
• The cultural shift from being targeted by your ideological opponents to your peers.
• Why being targeted by your peers is more harmful than being targeted by your opponents.
• Mainstream culture’s expectation of women and what happens when they deviate from it.
• Unpacking what incentivizes people to initiate trashing campaigns.
• The impulse to level women who are considered to have too much power and resources.
• Historical teachings on (and examples of) trashing and what we can learn from it.
• Why it takes a community, not an individual, to stop the trashing trend.
• Kelly’s experience of public shaming and her advice to others going through it.
• How to put up boundaries when it comes to trashing and canceling.
• Bearing people’s humanity in mind when you are being trashed.
• Jeni’s experience with public shaming and the immense harm it does.

Resources:

• Kelly Diels Website
• Subscribe to Kelly’s Sunday Love Letter
• The Luminaries LIVE, January 2024 cohort
• The VISIBLE Course

This podcast is brought to you by the Marvelous online teaching platform.

Marvelous is an easy-to-use platform that helps you build and sell your own courses, memberships, and live-streamed programs. Go from idea to open for business in just minutes. If you're looking for a simple, streamlined way to build and grow an online business. You can learn more at Marvelous.

Today on the And She Spoke podcast, we’re sharing our predictions for the coaching industry in 2024 with you so you can leverage the best techniques for success in your business this year.

Tune in to hear all about the changes we’ve seen in the coaching industry recently and what we think will happen throughout the year.

From the dangers of high-ticket sales to cohorts to one-on-one coaching, we even give you some tips to beat AI as a coach!

You don’t want to miss this one so press play now!

Here’s a sneak peek of what we discuss:

• The kinds of changes we have been seeing in coaching.
• A decrease in high-ticket sales in 2024.
• Why one-on-one coaching will always be successful and the downsides of it.
• The rise in cohorts and why they are so incredible.
• Why you need to have a niche in 2024, even when you’re an influencer.
• How AI is going to affect coaching in 2024.

JOY: Alltrails

HUSTLE: masterclass

Resources:

• Jennifer Barcelos on LinkdIN
• Sandy Connery on LinkdIN
• The Luminaries LIVE, January 2024 cohort
• The VISIBLE Course

This podcast is brought to you by the Marvelous online teaching platform.

Marvelous is an easy-to-use platform that helps you build and sell your own courses, memberships, and live-streamed programs. Go from idea to open for business in just minutes. If you're looking for a simple, streamlined way to build and grow an online business. You can learn more at Marvelous.