This is Uncharted's second podcast in our series on our journey to become an antiracist organization. We believe that our ability to become an antiracist organization is directly tied to our ability internally to have hard, courageous conversations, so Nicole Dill, our Director of People and Partnerships, dug around, interviewed our team, and explored what holds us back from having hard conversations, and what we can do about it in this article.

In this podcast, Erin Yoshimura from Empowerful Changes, Uncharted's diversity, equity, and inclusion coach and consultant, joins us to explore how to create the conditions where a team can have courageous conversations about race, oppression, privilege, and power. 

Uncharted is taking steps to become a more antiracist organization. We are determined to rise to the responsibility we have to fight systems of oppression, but we are also struggling...this work is complex, nuanced, and slow, and there have been times when we haven't known what to do. So in an effort to ask for help and transparently share our journey, we're creating a series of posts that reveal the behind-the-scenes challenges we’re facing, the progress we’re making, and the questions we’re asking.

In conjunction with each post, we're releasing a podcast with the post's authors to further explore the ideas, challenges, and questions from the post.

This is the first podcast connected to our first deep-dive post on inclusion where co-authors Adrienne Russman, Uncharted's Director of Government and Community Relations, and Nicole Dill, Uncharted's Director of People and Partnerships explore the topic of inclusion and why it's important to start our antiracist journey with inclusion.

• We referenced this article on White supremacy cultural values in the podcast, and so we're linking it here.
• Adrienne spoke about the curb-cut effect, and you can find more information about it here.
• You can see the post that kicked off the series (before the post on Inclusion linked above) here.

On this episode of Uncharted Territory, we interview Theo Wilson, a Black man, who went undercover online as a white supremacist. We discuss his experience exploring the online communities of the alt-right and white supremacy, and he shares perspective about our moment of divisiveness, racial tension, Black Lives Matter, and identities rooted in politics and fear.

• Watch his TED Talk here.
• Theo references this book, Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome, in this podcast