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In February, 1763, Britain, Spain, and France signed the Treaty of Paris, ending the French and Indian War. In this one document, more American territory changed hands than in any treaty before or since. As the great historian Francis Parkman wrote, "half a continent...changed hands at the scratch of a pen."
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Poor account - there are better
- By Brian on 07-18-06
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Marooned
- Jamestown, Shipwreck, and a New History of America's Origin
- By: Joseph Kelly
- Narrated by: Bob Souer
- Length: 13 hrs and 56 mins
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We all know the great American origin story: It begins with an exodus. Fleeing religious persecution, the hardworking, pious Pilgrims thrived in the wilds of New England, where they built their fabled "shining city on a hill". Legend goes that the colony in Jamestown was a false start, offering a cautionary tale of lazy louts who hunted gold till they starved and shiftless settlers who had to be rescued by English food and the hard discipline of martial law.
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“Breath-y” narration bit great book
- By NBerg on 02-15-20
By: Joseph Kelly
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The Island at the Center of the World
- The Epic Story of Dutch Manhattan and the Forgotten Colony That Shaped America
- By: Russell Shorto
- Narrated by: Russell Shorto
- Length: 14 hrs and 33 mins
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In a landmark work of history, Russell Shorto presents astonishing information on the founding of our nation and reveals in riveting detail the crucial role of the Dutch in making America what it is today.
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Incomplete history, but fun. Performance is poor.
- By Matthew on 11-27-18
By: Russell Shorto
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Liberty's Exiles
- American Loyalists in the Revolutionary World
- By: Maya Jasanoff
- Narrated by: L. J. Ganser
- Length: 16 hrs and 10 mins
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Maya Jasanoff won the National Book Critics Circle Award for her groundbreaking work Liberty's Exiles. After the American Revolution, 60,000 British loyalists fled the U.S. for Canada, the Caribbean, India, and other points abroad. Jasanoff traces their harrowing journeys across the globe, shedding light on their ambitions, the post-revolutionary world they encountered, and their legacies.
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Staggering in its Breadth
- By Anders P Morley on 02-21-21
By: Maya Jasanoff
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The Mayflower
- The Families, the Voyage, and the Founding of America
- By: Rebecca Fraser
- Narrated by: Kate Reading
- Length: 15 hrs and 28 mins
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The voyage of the Mayflower and the founding of Plymouth Colony is one of the seminal events in world history. But the poorly equipped group of English Puritans who ventured across the Atlantic in the early autumn of 1620 had no sense they would pass into legend. They had 80 casks of butter and two dogs but no cattle for milk, meat, or ploughing. They were ill prepared for the brutal journey and the new land that few of them could comprehend.
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I kept saying "Oh My Goodness!"
- By Midwestern on 11-29-19
By: Rebecca Fraser
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The Trail of Tears
- The Forced Removal of the Five Civilized Tribes
- By: Charles River Editors
- Narrated by: Dave Wright
- Length: 2 hrs and 47 mins
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The "Five Civilized Tribes" are among the best known Native American groups in American history, and they were even celebrated by contemporary Americans for their abilities to adapt to white culture. But tragically, they are also well known tribes due to the trials and tribulations they suffered by being forcibly moved west along the "Trail of Tears".
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Not complete
- By Melissa on 06-14-15
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The First Frontier
- The Forgotten History of Struggle, Savagery, and Endurance in Early America
- By: Scott Weidensaul
- Narrated by: Paul Boehmer
- Length: 16 hrs and 16 mins
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Frontier: the word carries the inevitable scent of the West. But before Custer or Lewis and Clark, before the first Conestoga wagons rumbled across the Plains, it was the East that marked the frontier - the boundary between complex Native cultures and the first colonizing Europeans.Here is the older, wilder, darker history of a time when the land between the Atlantic and the Appalachians was contested ground - when radically different societies adopted and adapted the ways of the other, while struggling for control of what all considered to be their land.
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Too PC
- By Eric on 07-24-13
By: Scott Weidensaul
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Mayflower Lives
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- By: Martyn Whittock
- Narrated by: James Cameron Stewart
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Leading into the 400th anniversary of the voyage of the Mayflower, Martyn Whittock examines the lives of the "saints" (members of the Separatist Puritan congregations) and "strangers" (economic migrants) on the original ship. Collectively, these people would become known to history as "the Pilgrims". The story of the Pilgrims has taken on a life of its own as one of our founding national myths - their escape from religious persecution, the dangerous transatlantic journey, that brutal first winter.
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Wonderful!
- By Dennis Coello on 11-25-20
By: Martyn Whittock
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The Iroquois and Diplomacy on the Early American Frontier
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Distinguished history professor and author Timothy J. Shannon is a recognized expert on the Indians of colonial America. In this concise study of Iroquois diplomacy, Shannon paints a vivid picture of the American frontier's most successful Indian confederacy. This enlightening narrative explores the shrewd, sometimes treacherous, tactics the Iroquois used to withstand the juggernaut of colonization.
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Pleasant surprise
- By Robert B. Golson on 12-23-08
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The Other Slavery
- The Uncovered Story of Indian Enslavement in America
- By: Andrés Reséndez
- Narrated by: Eric Jason Martin
- Length: 12 hrs and 38 mins
- Unabridged
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Since the time of Columbus, Indian slavery was illegal in much of the American continent. Yet, as Andrés Reséndez illuminates in his myth-shattering The Other Slavery, it was practiced for centuries as an open secret. There was no abolitionist movement to protect the tens of thousands of natives who were kidnapped and enslaved by the conquistadors, then forced to descend into the "mouth of hell" of 18th-century silver mines or, later, made to serve as domestics for Mormon settlers and rich Anglos.
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overall a good book
- By Paola V. Hidalgo on 01-23-17
By: Andrés Reséndez
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Making Haste from Babylon
- The Mayflower Pilgrims and Their World: A New History
- By: Nick Bunker
- Narrated by: Bernadette Dunne
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At the end of 1618, a blazing green star soared across the night sky over the northern hemisphere. From the Philippines to the Arctic, the comet became a sensation and a symbol, a warning of doom or a promise of salvation. Two years later, as the Pilgrims prepared to sail across the Atlantic on board the Mayflower, the atmosphere remained charged with fear and expectation. Men and women readied themselves for war, pestilence, or divine retribution. Against this background, and amid deep economic depression, the Pilgrims conceived their enterprise of exile.
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Excellent, detailed and eye-opening
- By David on 09-20-15
By: Nick Bunker
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What Is America
- A Short History of the New World Order
- By: Ronald Wright
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Ranging with dazzling expertise through anthropology, history, and literature, Wright reconfigures our self-perception, arguing that the "essence" of America can be traced to the foundations of our history--literally to the collision of worlds that began in 1492, as one civilization subsumed another--and exploring how these currents continue to shape our world.
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insightful overview
- By rm3154 on 04-19-12
By: Ronald Wright
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A story as believable as it is tragic
After listening to Silverman's story of the Wampanoag's centuries with the English and their biological and cultural descendants, I feel both despair and hope. The despair is in that the fact that story of this particular encounter between Native Americans and Europeans is so familiar and universal. In its essentials, it is repeated in so many times and places, and into the present day. I credit Silverman's scholarship and excellent writing with keeping me entranced enough to endure this awful story. The hope I mentioned springs from the knowing that there are still Wampanoags living in their homeland, and that they are strong enough to continue the struggle.
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This factual presentation is lasting
Once you start reading this book it is likely you will continue with it to the end—this is gripping documented history that will have you on the edge of your seat in some parts, and shaking your head in others at how stupid humans can be. The time period covered is from near pre-history to our own contemporary time. Prepare for a clear eyed view of New England history (Hint: It's not peace and love between whites and Native Americans at a first Thanksgiving). The English and the Indians each had their faults, both moral and cultural; the differences appear to be in power and willingness to use it, exacerbated by different concepts of private and communal—as it still is today.
David J. Silverman is open about his thorough approach to historical documentation, and the Native American and English sources consulted to produce the most accurate account possible with currently extant sources. This adds to the confidence the reader may have in the veracity of the content in this book. The effect of this factual presentation is lasting.
From the historical account in this book it appears to me that "King Philip’s War (Metacom’s Rebellion)" in 1675-1676 was the inflection point for the acceleration of Native Americans' downward spiral from being independent nations. After that it was not much of a stretch to see the future coming of the Trail of Tears perpetrated by Andrew Jackson against Native Americans in the South—for the same expansionist reasons.
Zoom out from the narrative and you may see in the Europeans remnants of the Roman Empire, with its impetus for military conquest and taking of slaves. After Constantine it was a common presumption that the Empire was one and the same as the Kingdom of Jesus. The Native Americans who were "Praying Indians" embraced Christianity without the perspective of being part of European oriented Christendom—they studied the Bible and applied the Gospels through other than a European lens.
One possible result of the 21st Century thoughts described in this book might be the reorientation of our Thanksgiving holiday. We may dispense with the silly Pilgrim/Indian motifs, and instead embrace a Thanksgiving for all humanity. Let's hope that is sooner than later.
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Eye opening
I first looked into the the Wapanoag people after finding out thru working on my own genealogy and seeing that there is a high probability that Ousamequin is my 10th great grandfather. In any conflict there are always 2 sides. This book covers a side that I have not really heard before. I like that the author told you when things were his opinion and that some things we just don't know as facts but there were probabilities that were known. I think just talking about this issue and to raise awareness of the other side of the more known story is a good thing.
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- Lieutenant Worf
- 01-08-22
A great book with less than great narration
As a book, I have no complaints. This book tells the story not just of Thanksgiving, but of the Wampanoag people in amazing detail.
I cannot believe that the producers of this book allowed (encouraged) William Roberts to use that stereotypical 1950s Hollywood accent for the Native American characters. That was a decision made in astonishingly bad taste.
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- Ryan
- 11-17-22
Well written and important book. Disappointing narration.
This is a great book and you should read it - whether listening to this version or picking up a physical version. That said, the narration is disappointing. The narrator uses a stereotypical voice when speaking for the various Native American voices included in the text. In a reading that is otherwise done well, it is disappointing that no one - including the narrator himself - took issue with this.
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- Daniel Irwin
- 05-16-24
Very informative
Wish this was the history we learned in school, paints a vivid picture of New England from the days the English first arrived
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- Paul
- 11-26-21
A Must-Read
The story of the US holiday known as Thanksgiving has become a part of the national origin story; however, the story is just that: a myth. David J. Silverman offers deeper context and a retelling of events from an Indigenous perspective.
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- robert d. zebrasky
- 01-02-24
Lots of words I couldn’t pronounce.
So glad I got this book on Audible. Too many American Indians words I could not pronounce. Though the book was well structured and the story flowed. I see some people calling this book “ woke”. It’s not its history. The first colonists were not the greatest of allies to the Native Americans. It’s fact how bad they treated them. Selling them into slavery and basically destroying a culture. History doesn’t lie and sometimes it uncovers nasty things. This is truly a sad story that needs more attention.
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- Nikki
- 12-01-22
Thought provoking
Imagine a day when we celebrate the taking away of a people’s land, where we celebrate an intentional genocide and decimation of a culture and call it Manifest Destiny. I’ll never teach about thanksgiving the same way again. I am humbled and have much to learn still
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- Charlotte
- 11-28-21
Great information however infuriating, though a bit repetitive
I have been extremely interested in the topic of Native American history for the past 3 years and this has been on my “want to read” list for awhile now. Though I am grateful to have received the information of this book, I found it to be quite repetitive and a bit too lengthy. I also wish that this had been written by a native American, I would like to hear an actual Wampanoag perspective from the first person voice. Having said that this is useful reference material for reshaping the discussion I will have around my thanksgiving table with my family, and what I will teach my children about colonial / native relations.
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