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The Edge of Evolution Audiobook

The Edge of Evolution: The Search for the Limits of Darwinism

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In a tour de force of science and logic, the best-selling author of Darwin's Black Box combines genetics, laboratory results, and mathematics to prove, once and for all, that the universe and life on Earth are designed.

Michael J. Behe launched the intelligent design movement with his first book, Darwin's Black Box, by demonstrating that Darwinism could not account for the complexity of biochemistry. Now he takes a giant leap forward. In The Edge of Evolution, Behe uses astounding new findings from the genetics revolution to show that Darwinism is nowhere near as powerful as most people believe. Genetic analysis of malaria, E. coli, and the HIV virus over tens of thousands of generations, not to mention analysis of the entire history of the genetic struggle between them and "us" (humans), make it possible for the first time to determine the precise rates, and likelihood, of random mutations of varying kinds. We now know, as never before, what Darwinism can and cannot accomplish. The answers turn conventional science on its head and are certain to be hotly debated by millions. After The Edge of Evolution, life in the universe will never look the same.

©2007 Michael J. Behe; (P)2007 Tantor Media Inc.

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"Though many critics won't want to admit it, The Edge of Evolution is very balanced, careful, and devastating. A tremendously important book." (Dr. Philip Skell, Evan Pugh Professor of Chemistry, Emeritus, Pennsylvania State University, and a member of the National Academy of Sciences)

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    Doug D. Eigsti Kansas City, MO United States 05-28-13
    Doug D. Eigsti Kansas City, MO United States 05-28-13 Member Since 2013

    Increasing my ops tempo by allowing storytellers to whisper in my ear(buds).

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    "Malaria Anyone?"

    Be a Better Scientist. Put the Facts of Malaria in your Trove of Knowledge

    This is a serious attempt to explore the limits of Darwinian Evolution. The Neo-Darwinian view is that organisms evolve by means of an accumulation of small gradual changes in the genetic code. Michael Behe’s view is that the limits of such changes in the DNA are far below the limit of the boundary between different kinds of organisms. To prove his point he uses the example of the rapidly reproducing malaria bacteria as his real-world test case. Because of malaria’s rapid reproduction and wide-spread dispersion it has undergone many times the number of reproductive generations, in just the past few centuries, than all the mammals on the earth in all the time of supposed evolutionary history. These many generations have afforded malaria the equivalent chances for random evolutionary change that should have allowed it to reach the limit of Darwinian evolution. The fact that malaria has not managed to kill all of mankind shows that the limits for macro-evolution are very low. In all its millions of generations malaria still has not conquered the cold temperature problem. It can only reproduce when the temperature is above 50 degrees. This is why it is almost unknown in North America and yet is so prevalent in Africa.

    Behe explains why bacteria can easily develop immunity to drugs, such as chloral quinine. In many cases such drug resistance can be accomplished by a single point mutation of the DNA strand. Two such point mutations, in fortuitous locations, are less common but do occur. A triple set of advantageously placed DNA point mutations is quite rare and represents what Behe believes to be the limit of Darwinian evolution, “the edge of evolution,” if you will.

    Behe’s argument is an important one for all interested parties to reach a real-world understanding of what evolution, through the accumulation of small gradual changes through random mutation and natural selection, can and cannot do. His argument must be answered by Neo-Darwinists, Common Descent adherents, Intelligent Design proponents, and even Scientific Creationists alike. Behe comes to the conclusion Darwinian evolution does not explain the evidence uncovered by modern micro-biology; Intelligent Design does.

    Behe briefly touches on Common Descent but only long enough to state his bias in favor of it but does not deal with the alternate explanations that his conclusions for an Intelligent Designer certainly raise in the mind of the reader. The explanation for similarities between the genetic codes of different organisms can be explained by realizing that all organisms had a common Designer. One advantage of using similar genetics for different organisms is that this allows us to learn about the workings of DNA without resorting to the moral quandary of experimenting on human beings. This is to be expected when the Creator is a moral being.

    This book is useful for Scientific Creationists because it forces us to grapple with the fact that mutations do happen, and they do have an effect. It is useful for our case since these accumulations of small genetic changes through mutation and natural selection can be proven to have a very limited scope. Organisms can experience micro-evolution through such processes but the macro-evolution of one kind of organism evolving into another kind of organism is beyond the realm of possibility, as is evidenced by the limits of change in the malaria bacteria over the course of millions of generations of such mutation. Malaria is still malaria.

    This book is well narrated. The style employed by Patrick Lawlor is very clear. His diction is nearly flawless. This is very difficult material to listen to. Have your rewind button set to make it easy to go back and review.

    9 of 13 people found this review helpful
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    Rafael Vila Marble Falls, TX, US 10-26-15
    Rafael Vila Marble Falls, TX, US 10-26-15

    Live a double life, in the morning and afternoon I am a very geek developer and entrepreneur, but at night I become a clown for my 3 kids :)

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    "Intensive, Well Documented"

    This was my first listening experience about information of the genetic code. At first I thought it would be too overwhelming, but Professor Michael J. Behe, Ph.D. makes it sound so easy. If you know what I mean by that.

    The complexity of cellular machinery is an spectacular almost sci-fi thing to grasp. But the eloquence of Behe allow even myself to understand the complexity of his theory. Which it makes much sense unless you don't want to accept it. Irreducible Complexity in it essence is a common intuition. When you hear it from the perspective of the author it makes you grasped even more profoundly intuitive.

    Just imagining every single theoretical image about the biomechanical engineering and its specific function in this cellular world its overwhelmingly exquisite.

    2 of 3 people found this review helpful
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    Thomas Phelan 07-23-11
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    "Listen to it, not to comments about it!"

    No topic is more prone to straw man arguments than arguments against Intelligent Design. Every time the subject of Intelligent Design comes up in my presence many react as if ID proponents were arguing for a 6,000 year old world. When I ask those holding such views what they've read from the ID community itself invariably it comes up that all they read was works from anti-ID thinkers about ID. The truth is that most who are anti-ID work on the assumption that NOTHING is more improbably then the existence of God and hence of design. Thus, even he most bizarre and/or improbable scientific speculation is more believable to them then the possibility of design and upon this basis they criticize Behe. This book however is NOT about God, it is about understanding the origin of the complexity of our physical world from a genuinely scientific perspective. Specifically, in this book Behe agrees with common decent and also with some variation that results from random changes and natural selection. However, the "Edge" he seeks to define in this book is between what Darwinism can explain and what it can't. If you want to know what ID is about and are not content to read straw man arguments against ID then this book is for you. I think the Edge of Evolution is even better than Behe's earlier work Darwin's Black Box because it is written years later taking into account important scientific discoveries in molecular biology and with the arguments of those who criticized Darwin's Black Box in mind.

    26 of 43 people found this review helpful
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    David Foxboro, MA, United States 04-14-12
    David Foxboro, MA, United States 04-14-12 Member Since 2012

    Voracious, omnivorous reader. Audible provides another venue to absorb information.

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    "Scientific expose of a theory."
    What did you love best about The Edge of Evolution?

    Behe is a scientist I can read that exemplifies science at it's best; inquisitive, unafraid to question convention and exhaustive in his research.


    What was one of the most memorable moments of The Edge of Evolution?

    Discussion of irreducible complexity.


    Which scene was your favorite?

    All competed for inclusion as 'favorites'. However, his answers to critics were particularly insightful.


    Was this a book you wanted to listen to all in one sitting?

    No, too much data to absorb. It's not a story. It's a text book.


    11 of 19 people found this review helpful
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    Leo 08-22-10
    Leo 08-22-10
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    "Another excellent book by Behe"

    This is not a book about the political struggle between atheists (who pretend the Philosophy of Science somehow trumps the Philosophy of Religion) and religionists (who pretend the reverse).


    This is a book about how recent research calls into question the idea that random mutations and natural selection alone can explain complex life.


    Behe is an expert in the field of Biology, not some novice with a religious axe to grind, and his arguments are well reasoned and clearly presented. He gives credit to parts of evolutionary thought where due, but he exposes the gaping holes where intellectual honesty demands, and that is one reason why he is mercilessly attacked.

    If you believe the Theory of Evolution must be accepted without question because everyone who is skeptical is a fool with no valid arguments, then you should get this book. You will learn that there are skeptical experts with very good reasons for being skeptical.


    If you doubt that there any fools on the side of Evolution, just try posting a reasonable, but slightly skeptical, question on popular Evolution websites (like Panda's Thumb). You will be instantly insulted by numerous people, and it's quite possible your question will be deleted.

    36 of 65 people found this review helpful
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    Dana Anderson, SC, United States 09-20-11
    Dana Anderson, SC, United States 09-20-11 Member Since 2013
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    "What about Epi-Genetics?"

    I haven't read/heard the book yet so I have no real right to throw in 2 cents. having confessed that:
    1. I've never seen so many reviews considered unhelpful. Why is this? Are people "voting" on whether they believe in the book's thesis or not? Jared Diamond's excellent book is also on sale and there's a similar pattern, as if people are voting whether or not all races have the same intelligence.
    2. Darwinism, natural selection and "survival of the fittest" is only a small facet of evolution but the one we understand best and easiest. People who attack evolution because it's only partly explained are unfair -- OBVIOUSLY we need more and better explanations for how evolution has progressed so fast, so diversely and (probably) efficiently. Lacking this theory, knowledge or model in no way should denigrate what we have figured out so far.
    3. I love science and learning how nature works. I can't fathom how such extreme complexity, such islands of anti-entropy, such beings as have "souls" could come about by any amount of random chance, no matter how many monkeys, typewriters and time. But I'm only human...
    4. Pretty sure that science isn't capable of ruling out Intelligent Design. Could a scientist possibly design an experiment or collect data or observances that could rule it in? (Science and Religion have never been opposed, they ask and answer different questions from different directions. They are skew. It's downright silly to ask Science to weigh-in on a Religious question and vice versa but it's amazing how it seems to stir emotions and opinions)
    5. Epi-genetics is the hot topic in the last several years and looking like the next good step in understanding the progression of evolution beyond chance mutations. Vaguely: RNA and protein production and the resulting phenotype is controlled by how DNA is exposed or "unrolled" and every organism (indeed, every cell nucleus) has literally several feet of unused and largely un-understood DNA. The fairly famous recent experiment (if I recall correctly) on this showed that if you overfed mouse fathers, their offspring were more likely fat and diabetic-like. How is a message or disease-state like this passed to progeny thru a single sperm? Nothing to do with the DNA code changes.
    So, I look forward a lot to listening to the book and hope that its science is up to date.

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    Doug St. Louis MO, USA 09-26-09
    Doug St. Louis MO, USA 09-26-09 Member Since 2004
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    "Brilliant and provocative"

    Negative reviews elsewhere, by names little and big (e.g. Dawkins), are full of name calling, appeals to authority (authorities who dismiss Behe's argument a priori), irrelevancies, and anger, but nothing that addresses the substance of his case. Behe provides detailed examples and arguments supporting natural selection and common descent. His sole challenge to the reigning dogma is the sufficiency of RANDOM variation to explain the complexity of life as we have come to know it through modern biochemistry and genetics. The howls of Dawkins et al betray a faith in life as a random accident challenged at the foundation.

    32 of 62 people found this review helpful
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    bpjammin 07-07-17
    bpjammin 07-07-17 Member Since 2017
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    "Interesting Therory Not Well Supported"

    In essence his thesis is that complexity demands a designer, however I didn't find his arguments convincing. In fact, I kept waiting for his big revelation, which never came.

    In the process of making his argument that randomness cannot be the designer of complexity, he overlooks genetic drift, population genetics and doesn't mention any serious mathematical statements to make his case. He cites the lack of complex evolution in two viruses as proof that this idea somehow applies to eukaryotes, without explaining how or why.

    He also dismisses the multi-universe theory's explanation of complexity and fine tuning out of hand, without really addressing the central points of the theories. He accepts the theory of common decent without much of an explanation as to why.

    It's true that the complexity and fine tuning of the physical universe is mind boggling and it is therefore easy to project a designer into the creation, but it's hard to find any figure prints that point to the designer.

    0 of 0 people found this review helpful
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    Christos 05-22-16
    Christos 05-22-16
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    "Critique of Natural Selection"

    A good explanation of what natural selection can and can't do. The book is well thought out.

    1 of 2 people found this review helpful
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    Roger Idaho Falls, ID, United States 05-02-16
    Roger Idaho Falls, ID, United States 05-02-16 Member Since 2010
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    "Darwinian is tested by logic and statistics"

    Darwinism is often presented as THE explanation for life on our planet. But there is little evidence to support this. We can all agree with Mendel that the offspring will inherit attributes from their ancestry. It is much more difficult to demonstrate that one species is the ancestor of another species. And this does not consider the fact that our planet began as a sterile place. So, there is no original life to modify.

    I liked the discussion of the malaria bug. Since it reproduces so rapidly, many generations can be studied to see what changes are taking place in the bug. The fact that genetic material that no longer provides protection is removed from available DNA was not expected by me. I tend to hang on to my tools even if I haven't used them for a while.

    I recommend this book highly.

    1 of 2 people found this review helpful

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