With every layoff, there's the blackbox of what's really going on behind the scenes. Why did it go down the way it did? Was it really not about your performance, like they told you? How does the layoff list get made anyway?

In our inaugural proxy conversation, we connect Miles and Elliot with a proxy HR professional to answer their layoff questions.

From the episode:

• You can listen to original layoff song Gold Star on Tidal and Spotify, and watch the ridiculous layoff interpretive pole dance music video on YouTube. Gold Star was written by Yowei Shaw and Kyle Pulley, produced and mixed by Kyle Pulley of Headroom Studios, The music video was directed, filmed, and edited by Alex Beebe, with art by typobrekkie, and production and costume support from Joanna Solotaroff.
• Thank you to Catie Maillard for being our proxy HR professional. You can find out more about Catie's work at somehowimanagehr.com, LinkedIn, and TikTok.

Episode credits:

Produced by Yowei Shaw

Edited by John DeLore

Mixed by Kyle Pulley

Research and reporting support by Kim Nederveen Pieterse

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