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The Fifth Discipline
- The Art and Practice of the Learning Organization
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Building on the success of their previous title, The Oz Principle, Connors and Smith explore the direct link between a company's culture and the results it produces. Journey to the Emerald City details a clear road map for accelerating the move to a culture of accountability in which people focus on achieving the results critical to a company's future.
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Every creative leaders go to book
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Attacker's Advantage
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In The Attacker's Advantage, Charan reveals the upside of uncertainty for those leaders who are nimbly positioned to anticipate the catalysts of disruption and embrace change. He updates and adapts the principles of his previous best sellers to address the current turbulent business environment, cutting through the veil of complexity to concentrate on the new customer needs and expectations and providing the tools for corporate leaders to take their companies to a higher level.
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Fantastic book - volume lower than usual
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The Outstanding Organization
- Generate Business Results by Eliminating Chaos and Building the Foundation for Everyday Excellence
- De: Karen Martin
- Narrado por: Karen Martin
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After two decades in the trenches of helping companies design and build better, more efficient operations, Karen Martin has pinpointed why performance improvement programs usually fail: Chaos, the sneaky but powerful force that frustrates customers, keeps business leaders awake at night, and saps company morale. In The Outstanding Organization, Karen offers a toolbox for combating chaos by creating the organizational conditions that will allow your improvement efforts to return greater gains.
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Good breadth, shallow depth
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Questions Are the Answer
- A Breakthrough Approach to Your Most Vexing Problems at Work and in Life
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For innovation and leadership guru Hal Gregersen, the power of questions has always been clear - but it took some years for the follow-on question to hit him: If so much depends on fresh questions, shouldn’t we know more about how to arrive at them? That sent him on a research quest ultimately including more than 200 interviews with creative thinkers. Questions Are the Answer delivers the insights Gregersen gained about the conditions that give rise to catalytic questions - and breakthrough insights - and how anyone can create them.
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All you need is the title
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How Did That Happen?
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Drawing on case studies, many from client companies, the authors show how to establish clear expectations and manage the unmet expectations that inevitably occur. And they offer a positive, principled way that engages hearts and minds. This book can help people at every level---from senior executives to front-line workers---enjoy greater productivity, profitability, and job satisfaction.
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HELP - How Can I Get The Lost Hours Back ?
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Listening is harder than it looks - but it's the difference between business success and failure. Nothing causes bad decisions in organizations as often as poor listening. But Bernard Ferrari, adviser to some of the nation's most influential executives, believes that such missteps can be avoided and that the skills and habits of good listening can be developed and mastered. He offers a step-by-step process that will help you become an active listener, able to shape and focus any conversation.
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Better listening made easy
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Moments of Impact
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Moments of Impact is an audiobook on a mission: to eradicate time-sucking, energy-depleting workshops and meetings. In our fast-changing world, organizations have important challenges and opportunities to address - and no time to waste. Moments of Impact delivers the single most useful resource for managers and leaders who need better strategic conversation - now - to shape the future of their organizations.
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Another audiobook failure. Buy the real book
- De Jonathan en 02-08-15
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Designing for Growth
- A Design Thinking Tool Kit for Managers
- De: Jeanne Liedtka, Tim Ogilvie
- Narrado por: Nicol Zanzarella
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Jeanne Liedtka and Tim Ogilvie educate listeners on one of the hottest trends in business development: "design thinking", or the ability to turn abstract ideas into practical applications for maximal business growth. Jeanne Liedtka's recent book, The Catalyst: How YOU Can Lead Extraordinary Growth, was named a Top Innovation and Design Thinking Book by Business Week. Tim Ogilvie has been hailed as a visionary for his pioneering contributions to service innovation, business model innovation, and customer experience design.
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Audiobook requires regular book
- De GoingGoingGone... en 07-01-18
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Leading with Cultural Intelligence, Second Editon
- The Real Secret to Success
- De: David Livermore
- Narrado por: Tim Andres Pabon
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Business today is global - and success requires a new set of skills. But not to worry, whether you're negotiating with vendors in Asia, exploring potential markets in Africa, or leading a diverse team at home, you don't have to master the nuances of every culture you encounter. With cultural intelligence, or CQ, you can lead effectively in any context.
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good 101, but not more
- De V. Taras en 04-21-16
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The Oz Principle
- Getting Results Through Individual and Organizational Accountability
- De: Roger Connors, Tom Smith, Craig Hickman
- Narrado por: Wayne Shepherd
- Duración: 8 h
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The Oz Principle is the groundbreaking work that demonstrates the vital role of accountability in the achievement of business results and the improvement of both individual and organizational performance. With more than a half million copies sold, The Oz Principle has emerged as one of the most influential and useful business ideas of recent times. The Oz Principle shows how to overcome The Blame Game that is so prevalent in organizations today.
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Trustless Accountability
- De Michael en 04-23-17
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Ruined by woke politics
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The Art of Thinking in Systems: Improve Your Logic, Think More Critically, and Use Proven Systems to Solve Your Problems - Strategic Planning for Everyday Life
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Would you like to have better solutions to your problems? Struggling to understand why things went wrong when you did everything right? The Art of Thinking in Systems can help you with these problems. You think systems thinking is for politicians, and powerful CEO's? Let me tell you this: a small business is a system, your class at school is a system, your family is a system. You are the element of larger systems - your town, your country, the world. These systems have a different dynamic. The more you know about their nature, the more optimal solutions you'll find to problems.
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Pobody is nerfect...
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Theory U
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New edition, expanded and updated. With the release of Theory U almost 10 years ago, Otto Scharmer set in motion a revolution in thought. Scharmer explained that what we pay attention to and how we pay attention is key to what we create. What prevents us from attending to situations more effectively is that we aren't fully aware of and in touch with the inner place from which attention and intention originate.
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Great book, graphics as pdf would be great
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Lo que los oyentes dicen sobre The Fifth Discipline
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- Ethan Klitzke
- 03-05-18
would like unabridged and latest version
seemed overly simplified to shorten for audio. would like unabridged release and please update to latest version.
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- Howard K. Crampton, Jr.
- 03-10-19
A most powerful listen
A very well thoughtful and organized book. The presentation on systems thinking and learning organizations fits right into my field of integral theory and process/humble consulting.
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- ShinyCM
- 08-06-18
Not the book
Good audio that hits the points made in the book, but this is not an actual reading of the book text. It is a great accompaniment to the book.
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- Alf Kåre Lefdal
- 08-30-16
This is an abridged version
The ideas are great, really intriguing, and normally I would give this book 5 stars. But this is an abridged version, apparently an old version, and nowhere is this fact stated. Also, only half the content is read by Mr. Senge, the rest by some anonymous guy.
On the other hand, the reviews of the complete book (Kindle edition) indicates that that version is too long, so maybe an abridged version is OK? But please inform me before I buy.
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- Andrea
- 06-23-13
I wanted a book, not a lecture
Would you recommend this book to a friend? Why or why not?
I would only recommend this book if someone wanted a summary.
What did you like best about this story?
I love the concepts presented in this book.
How could the performance have been better?
I would have preferred the book to have been read. I thought the pausing and added insights were more lecture style. While that is not a bad thing, I wanted to hear the book, not a lecture.
Did The Fifth Discipline inspire you to do anything?
Buy the book.
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I wish I could have listened to a section of this before I used up a credit on it. I would have simply purchased and read the book. I wanted to hear the book: Chapter 1…. Instead, it ended up being lecture style/one sided discussion style and I didn't like that. Pausing is different when lecturing as opposed to reading and it simply threw me off. Shoot. I will have to be more careful about reading reviews before I purchase an audiobook.
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- Amazon Shopper
- 06-08-16
Good Tool for Organizational Leadership
A Good Tool for Organizational Leadership. The author provides a good overview of how systems thinking can help an organization achieve its goals.
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- William Petrick
- 08-06-17
Not bad, but not all Senge
The book was ok but the narration wasnt all Peter Senge and at times the flow was challenging. Overall the book was helpful but includes a lot of concepts that are unique in themselves. The message is good, but prescriptively it is a bit too packaged.
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- Duck
- 06-19-22
great take on learning and change within corporate
The examples of generic companies don't seem to hit home as well I said would if there were real companies and some understood that they don't allow for bill pointing out a real company but she will be nice to research some of the stuff that they actually point out for examples
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- Ana Pliopas
- 11-29-11
Senge narrates only part of the program
Good program, that gives a comprehensive perspective. The fact that Peter Senge is not the narrator for the entire program should have been made clear.
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- Incognito69
- 03-27-21
AN OKAY SYNOPSIS
An okay synopsis of the topic of systems thinking. If you want a detailed overview of the topic you have to read the book. This abridged version just doesn't cut it
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