
Determined
A Science of Life Without Free Will
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The instant New York Times bestseller
“Excellent…Outstanding for its breadth of research, the liveliness of the writing, and the depth of humanity it conveys.”–Wall Street Journal
One of our great behavioral scientists, the bestselling author of Behave, plumbs the depths of the science and philosophy of decision-making to mount a devastating case against free will, an argument with profound consequences
Robert Sapolsky’s Behave, his now classic account of why humans do good and why they do bad, pointed toward an unsettling conclusion: We may not grasp the precise marriage of nature and nurture that creates the physics and chemistry at the base of human behavior, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. Now, in Determined, Sapolsky takes his argument all the way, mounting a brilliant (and in his inimitable way, delightful) full-frontal assault on the pleasant fantasy that there is some separate self telling our biology what to do.
Determined offers a marvelous synthesis of what we know about how consciousness works—the tight weave between reason and emotion and between stimulus and response in the moment and over a life. One by one, Sapolsky tackles all the major arguments for free will and takes them out, cutting a path through the thickets of chaos and complexity science and quantum physics, as well as touching ground on some of the wilder shores of philosophy. He shows us that the history of medicine is in no small part the history of learning that fewer and fewer things are somebody’s “fault”; for example, for centuries we thought seizures were a sign of demonic possession. Yet, as he acknowledges, it’s very hard, and at times impossible, to uncouple from our zeal to judge others and to judge ourselves. Sapolsky applies the new understanding of life beyond free will to some of our most essential questions around punishment, morality, and living well together. By the end, Sapolsky argues that while living our daily lives recognizing that we have no free will is going to be monumentally difficult, doing so is not going to result in anarchy, pointlessness, and existential malaise. Instead, it will make for a much more humane world.
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Critic reviews
“Sapolsky’s decades of experience studying the effects of the interplay of genes and the environment on behavior shine brightly . . . He provides compelling examples that bad luck compounds . . . convincingly argues against claims that chaos theory, emergent phenomena, or the indeterminism offered by quantum mechanics provide the gap required for free will to exist.”—Science
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Humans are born to create theories about the world - unfortunately, they're usually wrong, and keep us from understanding the world as it really is. Why do we catch colds? What causes seasons to change? And if you fire a bullet from a gun and drop one from your hand, which bullet hits the ground first? In a pinch, we almost always get these questions wrong. Worse, we regularly misconstrue fundamental qualities of the world around us.
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A bit too simple
- By Edwin Garcia-Rios on 08-18-17
By: Andrew Shtulman
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Compórtate
- La biología que hay detrás de nuestros mejores y peores comportamientos
- By: Robert M. Sapolsky
- Narrated by: Martin Untrojb
- Length: 45 hrs and 9 mins
- Unabridged
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Un examen minucioso del comportamiento humano y una respuesta a la pregunta: ¿por qué hacemos las cosas que hacemos? Sapolsky analiza los factores en juego, desde el momento previo hasta los factores arraigados en la historia de nuestra especie y su legado evolutivo. Partiendo de una explicación neurobiológica -¿qué sucedió en el cerebro de una persona un segundo antes de que se comportara así?, ¿qué visión, sonido u olor hicieron que el sistema nervioso produjera ese comportamiento?-, pasamos a pensar en el mundo sensorial y la endocrinología.
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Elbow Room
- The Varieties of Free Will Worth Wanting
- By: Daniel C Dennett
- Narrated by: Don Hagen
- Length: 9 hrs and 54 mins
- Unabridged
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In this landmark 1984 work on free will, Daniel Dennett makes a case for compatibilism. His aim, as he writes in the preface to this new edition, was a cleanup job, "saving everything that mattered about the everyday concept of free will while jettisoning the impediments". In Elbow Room, Dennett argues that the varieties of free will worth wanting - those that underwrite moral and artistic responsibility - are not threatened by advances in science but distinguished, explained, and justified in detail.
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Good points but rambling
- By Brandon B. on 03-09-16
By: Daniel C Dennett
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Why Are You Still Sending Your Kids to School?
- The Case for Helping Them Leave, Chart Their Own Paths, and Prepare for Adulthood at Their Own Pace
- By: Blake Boles
- Narrated by: Blake Boles
- Length: 6 hrs and 3 mins
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For some kids, school offers a positive and engaging experience. For others, it's a boring, stressful, and frustrating waste of time. If your child is in the second category, why keep tormenting them? Instead, why not help them find an educational environment where they feel genuinely motivated, excited, and empowered? In this eye-opening book, Blake Boles makes the case for leaving conventional school and taking one of the many alternative paths through K-12 that exist today.
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eye opening/ must read for every parent
- By Angelika on 07-01-20
By: Blake Boles
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Can We Talk About Israel?
- A Guide for the Curious, Confused, and Conflicted
- By: Daniel Sokatch
- Narrated by: Daniel Sokatch
- Length: 11 hrs and 14 mins
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'Can’t you just explain the Israel situation to me? In, like, 10 minutes or less?' This is the question Daniel Sokatch is used to answering on an almost daily basis as the head of the New Israel Fund, an organization dedicated to equality and democracy for all Israelis, not just Jews. Can We Talk About Israel? is the story of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, grappling with a century-long struggle between two peoples that both perceive themselves as (and indeed are) victims.
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Not completely sincere in its promise
- By Buretto on 10-30-21
By: Daniel Sokatch
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Psych
- The Story of the Human Mind
- By: Paul Bloom
- Narrated by: Graham Halstead
- Length: 15 hrs and 4 mins
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How does the brain—a three-pound wrinkly mass—give rise to intelligence and conscious experience? Was Freud right that we are all plagued by forbidden sexual desires? What is the function of emotions such as disgust, gratitude, and shame? Renowned psychologist Paul Bloom answers these questions and many more in Psych, his riveting new book about the science of the mind.
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Not particularly interesting
- By michelle gourgeot on 07-10-23
By: Paul Bloom
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Free Agents
- How Evolution Gave Us Free Will
- By: Kevin J. Mitchell
- Narrated by: Kevin J. Mitchell
- Length: 10 hrs and 52 mins
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Scientists are learning more and more about how brain activity controls behavior and how neural circuits weigh alternatives and initiate actions. As we probe ever deeper into the mechanics of decision making, many conclude that agency—or free will—is an illusion. In Free Agents, leading neuroscientist Kevin Mitchell presents a wealth of evidence to the contrary, arguing that we are not mere machines responding to physical forces but agents acting with purpose.
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Adding Clarity to Agency
- By Brad Caldwell on 10-10-23
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Scarcity Brain
- Fix Your Craving Mindset and Rewire Your Habits to Thrive with Enough
- By: Michael Easter
- Narrated by: Michael Easter
- Length: 9 hrs and 18 mins
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Have you ever found yourself wondering “Why do I want more than I have?” Michael Easter, author of The Comfort Crisis and one of the world’s leading experts on behavior change, shows that the problem isn’t you. The problem is your scarcity mindset, left over from our ancient ancestors. They had to constantly seek and consume to survive because vital survival tools like food, material goods, information, and power were scarce and hard to find. But with our modern ability to easily fulfill our ancient desire for more, our hardwired “scarcity brain” is now backfiring.
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Good story, annoying gimmick noises
- By Kyle P. on 10-03-23
By: Michael Easter
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The Zen of Advaita
- The Teaching Mastery of Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj
- By: Stephen Wolinsky
- Narrated by: Stephen H. Wolinsky PhD
- Length: 3 hrs and 30 mins
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The Zen of Advaita: The Teaching Mastery of Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj is Book I of Stephen Wolinsky's Zen Koan course. It explores Zen Koans in general, how they are structured, their “purpose”, and how Zen Koans have both a deconstructive, as well as revealing, effect.
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Delightfull
- By Max Audible on 06-24-24
By: Stephen Wolinsky
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The Dawn of Everything
- A New History of Humanity
- By: David Graeber, David Wengrow
- Narrated by: Mark Williams
- Length: 24 hrs and 13 mins
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A trailblazing account of human history, challenging our most fundamental assumptions about social evolution—from the development of agriculture and cities to the emergence of "the state", political violence, and social inequality—and revealing new possibilities for human emancipation.
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exactly what I've been looking for
- By DankTurtle on 11-10-21
By: David Graeber, and others
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The Case Against Reality
- Why Evolution Hid the Truth from Our Eyes
- By: Donald Hoffman
- Narrated by: Timothy Andrés Pabon
- Length: 8 hrs and 43 mins
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Challenging leading scientific theories that claim that our senses report back objective reality, cognitive scientist Donald Hoffman argues that while we should take our perceptions seriously, we should not take them literally. How can it be possible that the world we see is not objective reality? And how can our senses be useful if they are not communicating the truth? Hoffman grapples with these questions and more over the course of this eye-opening work.
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Don't buy - visual examples missing, no pdf
- By Richard Pickett on 08-26-19
By: Donald Hoffman
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How Emotions Are Made
- The Secret Life of the Brain
- By: Lisa Feldman Barrett
- Narrated by: Cassandra Campbell
- Length: 14 hrs and 32 mins
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The science of emotion is in the midst of a revolution on par with the discovery of relativity in physics and natural selection in biology. Leading the charge is psychologist and neuroscientist Lisa Feldman Barrett, whose research overturns the long-standing belief that emotions are automatic, universal, and hardwired in different brain regions. Instead, Barrett shows, we construct each instance of emotion through a unique interplay of brain, body, and culture.
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Emotions are not things!!!!!!
- By Gary on 03-14-17
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Being You
- A New Science of Consciousness
- By: Anil Seth
- Narrated by: Anil Seth
- Length: 9 hrs and 46 mins
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What does it mean to “be you” - that is, to have a specific, conscious experience of the world around you and yourself within it? There may be no more elusive or fascinating question. Historically, humanity has considered the nature of consciousness to be a primarily spiritual or philosophical inquiry, but scientific research is now mapping out compelling biological theories and explanations for consciousness and selfhood.
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Not engaging, nothing new
- By Tristan on 11-22-21
By: Anil Seth
Now, getting to my criticisms of the book;
1. Ultimately, if we are to seriously follow the consequences of having no free will, we need to rethink everything. Yet this book clings to the set of morales birthed during the age of free will. Sapolsky hints at this during the final chapters of the book, but isn’t ready to radically embrace the consequences of the first half of the book by rethinking morality.
2. I remain unconvinced that the question of free will is the right question to ask. Does it even matter? The universe is sufficiently complex to permit determinism to masquerade as something like free will, and it’s obviously indistinguishable from actual free will, since if It were distinguishable, the debate would already be over.
3. If the case for no free will is so strong, why spend so much effort in early chapters covering unconvincing arguments that Sapolsky himself says doesn’t hold up “on its own”. He is trying to form a strong argument out of a handful of weak/refutable arguments, but the foundation is weak. Yes, these are of less importance than his main “turtles” argument, but to my mind, it came off feeling like a swindle.
4. In discussing the consequences of no free will, Sapolsky takes a number of firm positions that seem far from the only interpretation. For instance, even in a world without free will, intelligence still models the world, and perhaps supersedes free will. Therefore, policies that educate effectively increase freedom of “choice”, and policies that create an environment promoting education must therefore be virtuous. More generally, policies that shape our environment in such a way as to herd us toward virtuous paths, are virtuous.
Enjoyed it, but I remain a skeptic.
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If you want to expand your brain on chaos theory, Emergence and Quantum Indeterminacy, read this whole thing. If you want to get to the point Sapolsky is trying to make, read the last couple of chapters and call it what it is: an interesting concept to chew on that challenges (y)our judgemental views of "good" and "bad."
If You're a Neuroscientist, You'll Probably Like It
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Very fascinating subject
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It is turtles all the way down!
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Please See The Accompanying PDF for a Footnote
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interesting ideas
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Most readers who strongly believe they have free-will, will likely base that upon something like a soul.
Thus the author’s arguments will likely fall flat. The PDF is difficult to absorb except while actually listening to the book, which is awkward.
It is literally Hard to Believe that free will does not exist.
Although the author seems to believe his own arguments at some level, and tries to live those beliefs, and testifies in court regarding those beliefs…it is not at all clear he really believes, at a deep level, that he has no free will. I also agree with the author’s conclusion, nevertheless I find it Hard to Believe I have no free will. His previous book, Behave, set out the practical aspects of limited free will very well, and there is little in this book to extend those practical recommendations.
The author does a pretty good job describing the physics that makes Free Will extremely unlikely.
Each interaction is, almost entirely, dependent upon prior interactions.
There is almost no place non-deterministic free-will could come from.
Almost. One hole in the author’s reasoning is regarding that “almost”.
He believes any quantum indeterminacy is too small to influence free will.
The indeterminacy of each interaction is indeed very tiny but if free-will somehow influenced many billions of non-deterministic interactions, there seems to be plenty of room for free-will.
I don’t actually believe quantum indeterminism creates free will, but I don’t think the author demonstrated convincingly it is not possible.
The narration was quite clear and otherwise excellent.
Hard to Believe
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Chapters 8-10 seemed like someone narrating from an encyclopedia!
What???
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challenging
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Required reading for life.
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