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The Latest Generation

By: Patrick Bowman
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  • The Latest Generation is a discussion on how different generations influence current events, culture, and history.
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  • The Latest for April 28 2024
    Apr 29 2024

    Prompt the First: The Crazy World of 2nd Turning Music

    • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thompson_Twins - doesn't mention the shaved eyebrow thing,
    • SNL: Devo, B-52s, David Bowie
      • It wasn’t uncontrollable urge; it was Satisfaction and then Jocko Homo
      • And it was between their first two albums - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duty_Now_for_the_Future came out in 1979 - on
      • And during jock homo, they stripped off the radiation suits
      • https://www.reddit.com/r/LiveFromNewYork/comments/zf4vwz/devo_performing_jocko_homo_on_snl_in_1978/
      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdlU8e9wBIE - Martin Sheen introduces Bowie
    • Elvis Costello and Meatloaf commercials in 1977
      • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat_Out_of_Hell
      • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Aim_Is_True
      • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Look_Sharp!_(Joe_Jackson_album)(1978) - the shoes!

    Prompt the second: Bay of Pigs

    • https://www.netflix.com/title/81614129 - Turning Point: The Bomb and The Cold War
      • Yes, I somehow missed that The Bomb is right there in the title, so it's not a coincidence that it's focused on the nuclear part of The Cold War.
    • https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/

    Prompt the third: Neutrality

    • Neutrality as a very malleable concept: USSR/Japan in WWII, US / Germany, US/UKR/Russia,
    • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutral_country
    • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portugal_during_World_War_II
      • Anglo-Portuguese Treaty of 1373 - used by Churchill to confirm access to the Azores for aircraft.
    • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutrality_Acts_of_the_1930s
      • The Acts were largely repealed in 1941, in the face of the Lend-Lease Act.
    • https://x.com/generationalize/status/1495959705616801795
    • https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0034583/trivia/?item=tr6049574
    • https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0034583/trivia/?item=tr368170
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    27 mins
  • The Latest for April 21, 2024
    Apr 22 2024

    Prompt the First - Guadalcanal

    But also: The Pacific (2010)- last time did Band of Brothers,

    Taylor Swift — 1:12:50 in Long Pond sessions - association between Guadalcanal fighting and pandemic trauma. — Epiphany

    Available on Disney+ And it was in fact released IN 2020 - before vaccines were available, while effectively lockdown was still ongoing.

    And also - just barely related the Ahwanee was initially commissioned for the Navy in 1943. The official website said the the first men sent were veterans of Okinawa….which was two years later. Turns out the actual men sent there were from the naval hospital in Oakland CA - near San Francisco, that is - and were veterans of…Guadalcanal.

    Prompt the Second - Waiting on that Welfare Check

    From Bruce Springsteen's The River - Point Blank

    The P.J. O'Rourke reference can be found in the "Poverty Policy" chapter of "Parliament of Whores." I misremembered a couple of items in it, so:

    • It came from a visit to the "loathsome and terrifying" Newark project
    • He refers to the idea of "buying" the apartment as "the current conservative wisdom," and "Jack Kemp-style privatization"
    • Residents would purchase their apartments, no down payment, mortgage payment no more than what they paid for rent.
    • In response to each of his arguments, the lady responds "I'm not going for any of that."
    • The final response calls it not a toilet but "this seven-story sewer in the sky that she lived in" and was, again and finally "I'm not going for any of that."

    Prompt the Third - Ruined Technology

    Xz exploit inserted in open source code

    https://twitter.com/nolman/status/1781400531745017966/photo/1

    May be notable - perhaps a change in pov

    https://x.com/ryxcommar/status/1773082844643934543?s=46&t=h3SDrddBzjyl2UOHr9Q3xA

    That it’s becoming a choice (kinda again, kinda) that you ca pay 150K for a junior data engineer, or 200K for a senior, getting much more experience for a nominal increase in salary.

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    28 mins
  • Redux - Aaron Copland's Lincoln Portrait
    Apr 15 2024

    This is a bit of stretch for relevance but: It's Tax Day, and sometimes that's too busy a day to get anything else done. While composing Fanfare for the Common Man, Aaron Copland thought Tax Day was the most common sort of day for modern man, and that it would make a good day for a premiere.

    Which this isn't, but it's a decent look at the music that opens this podcast.

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    Aaron Copland's Lincoln Portrait, the music used for the introduction to this podcast, ties together two previous Fourth Turnings - commissioned after Pearl Harbor and including Civil War quotes from the 16th President - in a way which makes it feel even more relevant as this current Crisis unfolds.

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    A few relevant Wikipedia links

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_Portrait

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Copland

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Coral_Sea

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickett%27s_Charge

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-water_mark_of_the_Confederacy

    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Gertrude_Stein

    This site has Kostelnetz commissioning it within 10 days - mid-December 1941- and that copland began writing in late February

    https://www.neh.gov/humanities/2007/julyaugust/feature/the-sound-freedom

    The different excerpts are from

    1) Address to congress 1862: http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=29503

    2) Seventh and final Lincoln-Douglas debate October 15 1858 https://www.nps.gov/liho/learn/historyculture/debate7.htm

    3) Collected works: https://www.nps.gov/liho/learn/historyculture/onslavery.htm

    4) The Gettysburg Address 1863:

    https://www.npr.org/programs/specials/copland/coplandstory.html

    The NPS site says his slavery quote is from August 1, 1858 - 110 years before this recording.

    https://www.nps.gov/liho/learn/historyculture/onslavery.htm

    This site says the date is pure conjecture, is from a scrap of paper that Mary Todd Lincoln passed to archivists later, and is signed with a different piece of paper from another document.

    https://quod.lib.umich.edu/l/lincoln/lincoln2/1:547?rgn=div1;view=fulltext

    Vin Scully, voice of the Dodgers, with the L.A. Philharmonic in 2017

    https://www.ocregister.com/2017/07/14/see-vin-scully-narrate-the-words-of-abraham-lincoln-at-the-hollywood-bowl/

    A direct link to a Youtube video of that performance https://youtu.be/6qpYwrla0GE

    More on the quote about freedom and democracy

    https://abrahamlincoln.quora.com/Close-Reading-2-Lincoln’s-Definition-of-Democracy-August-1-1858

    The first item there is is a NYTimes piece from 1895 - that would be 30 years after the Civil War - that attributes it to Lincoln by the judge who ….attributes it to him.

    https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1895/09/13/106068178.pdf

    Last witness of the assassination of Lincoln, still alive in 1956, 14 years -after- the premiere of Lincoln Portrait

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RPoymt3Jx4

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    14 mins

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