Ross tells Carrie about his trip to a star party at which TV star and paranormal investigator Ben Hansen, along with MUFON analyst-with-an-astronomy-degree Marc D’Antonio, ponders objects in the sky live with an audience of dozens of UFO enthusiasts. Ross is surprisingly pleased with their earthly explanations, until he and Carrie begin to track inconsistencies across platforms and audiences. If consistency is a bellwether for honesty, ring it. (New saying.)

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Ross and Carrie live-eat disgusting and delightsome combinations of foods, many suggested by LISTENERS! This week’s themes are pickles, Mountain Dew, and alcohol. Plus, Carrie is still trying to chase down the soda (root beer?) that makes Lemon Oreos taste like marijuana. She fails, but Ross ends up high for the first time ever. It’s Flavor Babies. [Slurp sounds]

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In episode 411, Carrie gives Ross INFORMATION about Tracey Garbutt Dolan, a professionally trained remote viewer and E.T. researcher. Carrie attends Tracey’s talk on developing remote viewing skills by reducing your REM (and, subsequently, your health). Then she tells Ross all about Tracey’s training, scientific experiments, and unusual cognitive experiences.

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Ross and Carrie discuss the remote viewing panel at Contact in the Desert, a UFO conference in the socal desert. With Alan Steinfeld at the helm, this group of non-naval gazers discuss the history of the Stargate Project and their own methods for internally “viewing” a remote location or object. Then, Alan and Ross run their own tests, with impressively unimpressive results. Plus, an ESP app so bad, two out of three people yelled at it.

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Ross shares a talk he gave at SkeptiCamp LA 2024 looking at how practitioners of non-science wall themselves off from criticism. With examples from our prior investigations, Ross examines why an individual or organization might ignore its critics, fight back, vaguebook, flood the zone, cut ties, wall off itself and its members, or elect to positively engage. Plus, some very important and salient information about the communal behaviors of naked mole rats.

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Ross and Carrie examine the claims of Corey Goode, who rose through the ranks of UFO speakers and alleged abductees, ultimately landing himself a recurring gig on Gaia TV before being quietly ejected. Enter Jason Rice, a new Gaia talking head on the very same show, who claims that he – like Corey – was a member of the Secret Space Program, and is in contact with the Blue Avians (™) that Corey either met or (some might say) created. With Corey suing Gaia and others over his “intellectual property,” does that mean it’s… not real?

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Carrie tells Ross about a presentation she attended at Contact in the Desert 2023, a Palm Springs UFO conference. Speaker Caroline Cory has, for twenty years, been bringing “as much science as possible” to the study of paranormal topics like extraterrestrial contact, telepathy, information downloads, and mental health. Ross and Carrie analyze this claim. Plus, roving reporter Drew Spears attends a UFO videography class taught by the mysterious Mr. M.

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As MaxFunDrive 2024 comes to a close, join Ross and Carrie as they announce a new show goal, a live show happening TONIGHT, and preview a segment from Jordan, Jessie, Go! in which Carrie and Blaire Erskine flex their skills as religious goofballs. Support us at maximumfun.org/join

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