Announcing the end of season two, Daughter Dialogues will return on Thursdays in September (postponed until February 2022). This episode includes observations in review of season two, listener comments, podcast statistics, announcements of live virtual events to interact with the Daughters, and a season three preview. Hear the status of breaking the series into seasons and pace of the research project; common shared experiences among the Dialogues, new! from season two: bold women, connecting with African ancestors, American Indian heritage, universities built on labor of ancestors, influence of Roots by Alex Haley on Daughters, setting records straight, mismanagement of records, Daughters not believing they would have a Revolutionary War ancestor, Civil Rights and segregation struggles, letters to military men who then became a husband, Daughters breaking color and gender barriers, Daughters as survivors, Confederacy insensitivities, being nervous about joining the DAR in the South, Daughters being voted upon with black balls and white balls, election and health and racism pandemics in 2020 causing some Daughters to not record oral history, chance encounters; additional experiences in common with season one: white men with black women who were often enslaved in 1700s and 1800s providing a different narrative of how white men took care of their black families and passed down their property to them, white women with black men in the 1800's, colorism and complex struggles with racial identity because of color of skin, rejection or denial by white descendants of ancestors, black Daughters connecting with white descendants of their ancestor’s former enslavers, dual family, or shared common ancestor, members of the U.S. Colored Troops, people of color owning slaves, free people of color; season 2 publicity on Chicago and Quincy, IL radio, NM radio, Cheddar TV, ABC & NBC News Washington D.C., Washingtonian Magazine, geeking out on numbers; Daughter Dialogues downloaded nearly 17,000 times, placing it in top 40% of podcasts among 30+ million episodes available; listeners on every continent except Antarctica; top cities and countries in which listeners are located; announcing season 2 Dialogue with the Daughters Live! in August 2021 during which listeners will be able to meet the Daughters and ask questions live; season three preview: meet a black Jewish member of the Daughters of the American Revolution and a descendant of a American Indian female patriot. August 5, 2021 update: Season 2 Dialogue with the Daughters Live! is postponed until January 2022 and the subsequent return of Daughter Dialogues for a Season 3 is postponed until February 2022 due to the passing of Robert Raney, on August 3, 2021, father of the host Reisha Raney.

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Yolanda discusses her Croatan Native American Revolutionary War patriot Ephraim Manuel, son of 7th great grandfather Nicholas Manuel who was enslaved with his wife Bungey, both being of African descent in Elizabeth City County, Virginia; Nicholas migrating to Croatan territory in Samson County, North Carolina after he was freed from slavery in 1718; the Daughters of the American Revolution listing her patriot as Native American since his great grandson Enoch Manuel was Croatan and listed Ephraim as Croatan in his records; Enoch having several wives; 2nd great grandfather Herbert, Enoch's son, marrying an African American because he didn't want to intermarry; being proud of her patriot ancestor regardless of whether he was African American or Native American because the American colonies were losing the war, including people of color turned it around. Recording her oral history a mere two hours after the historic conviction of a white police officer for murdering a black man, Mr. George Floyd, Jr. Yolanda shares “my ancestors fought for freedom, equality, social justice, and democracy for everyone and every generation has to fight to preserve it”; being born in Ocala, FL, a 5th generation native Floridian; her childhood being centered around church and school; attending predominantly white schools; earning a bachelor's degree in psychology from Emory University in Atlanta, GA; completing an internship at Baylor College of Medicine in Texas; earning a PhD in clinical psychology at University of Georgia; working at Savannah State University to get the black college experience she missed out on as a student; running a private practice as a clinical psychologist; returning to Tallahassee to work at her “family’s school” of Florida A&M; discovering an online family tree leading to her patriot; being floored she could trace her ancestry to 1680, not believing she could join DAR; being unaware of free people of color and Croatan ancestors; impressed at how well documents were preserved, joining DAR to continue their preservation; Millie Manuel, widow of patriot, never getting paid for Ephraim's service; seeing how records of people of color were given less care than those of whites, grandmother's marriage certificate not listing parents' names, but instead just showing "willing"; her father being supportive of her joining DAR and her husband calling her "black royalty"; supporting the military since two of her sons are Navy officers; her 94 year old grandmother's birth certificate only listing her as "baby" Manuel; having attended universities in which individuals paved the way, same with DAR, people of color fought and sued to become members; representing patriots of color as a DAR member, telling the full story of the victory of the war; serving as a chapter officer, Librarian; being a DAR member in the South, not being ready to record oral history in 2020 with individual members' social media pages feeding into inequality and oppression of the racism pandemic, also disturbing they were ignoring the health pandemic that disproportionately impacted people of color; “I represent diversity in DAR, not just by my skin color but also by my patriot”; “not everyone who fought in the Revolution was European, this country is not just for Europeans”; enjoying time with members of color in DAR; being scared to attend first meeting, but it being very pleasant; anyone can join if they can prove lineage, and education or socio-economic status not mattering so DAR is an extremely diverse organization; being proud that women had the forethought to purchase DAR headquarters land while not forgetting her grandmother couldn't join; committing to continued membership and service in DAR.

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Carol talks about descending from Quock Martrick, born in 1756 Ghana, Africa, who served with George Washington in the American Revolution and was with Benedict Arnold when he left his post; spending three years searching for Quock’s slave master, assuming he had one as always taught in school about blacks in America, but never finding one; going before a council of Ga-Adangbe tribal elders for permission to meet her ancestral relatives in Big Ada then, the family giving her the name of Akutu Martey, meaning part warrior because she beat the odds by returning to them and the proper surname which was butchered to “Martrick” by the English; Quock serving in the Massachusetts militia as a free man alongside enslaved soldiers and slaves serving masters who were fighting, but choosing not to join the British; Quock marrying the daughter of a free black patriot; and three white men trying to get Quock declared insane to take his property, representing himself in court and the judge ruling in his favor. Carol shares oral history about growing up in Massachusetts with her siblings who are 10 to 16 years older and her parents fostering 74 siblings so she would not grow up like an only child, having to cut up and fry six whole chickens for dinner; family visiting Martha's Vineyard and having clambakes in the sand at the beach; being shaped by 6th grade "Africa the Dark Continent" school lesson; attending dance school; starting college at U-Mass, Amherst; wanting a dance career but father deciding she needed to study nursing, later switching to acting and directing at Emerson College; her foster brother in Vietnam showing his sisters' photos to soldiers who wrote letters to them, one becoming her husband; earning a bachelor's in Journalism and master's in International Politics- Sub Saharan Africa; working in public relations, communications and journalism; landing a job with a cable tv station in Antigua while vacationing there; her husband supporting her move to work in Antigua for almost 2 years while he and their two sons stayed in Ohio; working for FEMA being deployed to disaster areas; working in Louisiana on a housing restoration project after hurricane Katrina; working on her PhD in Journalism at 70; paternal grandmother's grandfather being a Civil War veteran, having a farm on a street named after him; sister helping with family research, stuck at 3rd paternal great-grandmother Chloe Jacobs; finding a document by a Boston Historic Genealogy Society researcher with 1790 census listing Quock Martrick, learning Chloe was born in Londonderry Canada; never knowing that blacks were in American Revolution; later learning when working on PhD that some Africans came to America free as mariners or for adventure; joining a Ohio Univ. study abroad program to Ghana; familiar faces and mannerisms of people where her ancestor left 250 years ago; Quock knowing his exact birth date, indicating he is royalty; Ga-Adangbe naming boys born on a Wednesday Quock, her confirming the day; grandmother being upset every time she told the story about DAR not allowing Marian Anderson to sing; joining DAR feeling she owed it to Quock, his wife, and her grandmother since "they kept Marian out but I was going to go in", and as an opportunity to learn; discovering a dozen other patriots; DAR members being genuinely nice; serving as a chapter officer, Librarian, being an example to granddaughters; having been made to feel she doesn’t belong in this country, also in career, and education by some who claimed this country having no relation to the war; having First Americans in her family; people not being able to say go back to Africa; as a member of the DAR, bringing recognition to people who have been ignored.

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