[appearing on this episode: Joey Svendsen, Amy Alderman and guest, David Schirduan]

David Schirduan grew up with a very similar faith-background as Joey's, but the biggest difference? David spent a part of his "youth group, high school days" in the youth group that Joey led almost 20 years ago.

David creates literature for folks who enjoy role-playing games, many of these games along the same lines of Dungeons and Dragons. Growing up, both Joey and David were taught that these types of games belonged in the same category as tarot cards, ouija boards and other satanic tools that should be avoided due to the sorts of evil spirits they are likely connected to. David is still a practicing Christian and comes on the show to shed some light on Dungeons and Dragons and walk us through how role-playing games work, hoping to lessen the stigma and eliminate some unwarranted fears amongst the christian community.

With co-host Amy Alderman providing staunch pushback, these two alongside Joey Svendsen, talk through the morals of dabbling in things that are seen by most Christians as evil that needs to be avoided. David walks Joey through a role-playing game scenario and explains how role-playing games can be used for beauty, connection and healthy creativity.

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Theme Song and Intro Music: Stoy Prioleau (aka: Riggy Rock): Apple Music
Closing and intro music by Derek Minor.
Other music by: Joel Hamilton

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Host and producer, Joey Svendsen also hosts and produces two other podcasts, coming more from the church world:

Seacoast Church's Things You Won't Hear on Sunday Podcast
&
The Endurance Factor Podcast

Other podcasts affiliated with co-hosts of PWNA:
Jed's Church & Other Drugs
Matt's The Great Deconstruction