The Yoga of Sleep
Sacred and Scientific Practices to Heal Sleeplessness
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Rubin Naiman PhD
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Dr. Andrew Weil has called his colleague Dr. Rubin Naimana a true pioneer in integrative sleep and dream medicine. Dr. Naiman has given us a new understanding of human consciousness that weaves sleep, dreams, and waking into a unified whole.
On the Yoga of Sleep, he bridges modern science with the world's wisdom traditions to present the untapped potential of sleep and dreams - not only for health and wellness but also for higher awareness and spiritual realization. It feautures five guided practices based on Dr. Naiman's unique approach to sleep: Your Personal Bedtime Stories, A mindful Surrender to Sleep, The Sacred Art of Awakening, and more.
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- Glenda Pliler
- 10-04-11
A Whole Different Understanding of Sleep
What did you love best about The Yoga of Sleep?
I loved that Naiman gave me a whole different understanding about sleep, especially the understanding it as a different state of consciousness. In the past, whenever I woke up at night, I immediately began thinking. But Naiman explains that thinking is part of the conscious world, so I have begun to treasure sleep not as merely lack of consciousness, but a rich world with it's own values.
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- Anonymous User
- 04-05-15
Sleep is a trip
What made the experience of listening to The Yoga of Sleep the most enjoyable?
This book is awesome, everithiyng was good, the information, the descriptions and the way is narrated.
Who was your favorite character and why?
From the introduction to the end, I enjoyed listen this book.
Have you listened to any of the narrator’s other performances before? How does this one compare?
The narrator was grate, he really inmmers into the jorney of sleep
Was this a book you wanted to listen to all in one sitting?
Defenitly, and I'll listen it again
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- Anonymous User
- 01-18-16
Review of the Yoga of Sleep
A wonderful presentation full of useful, applicable concepts. The second half of the audio would benefit from being structured into individual chapters for each practice. That would make it easier to go back and listen to a single practice at a time. Overall, I loved the material, the pace, and the tone. My personal relaxation practices, and those of my clients, will benefit me self from this information, and these simple yet profound practices. Thank you.
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- Anonymous User
- 10-24-21
there is some real valuable information here
I have to say there was some great ideas here many of which I will be using
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- Anonymous User
- 04-30-15
BOARING / no help at all...
Would you try another book from Rubin Naiman and/or the narrator?
never !
What do you think your next listen will be?
not from this person, to be sure.
Would you be willing to try another one of the narrator’s performances?
no way
You didn’t love this book... but did it have any redeeming qualities?
I was glad when it was over...
Any additional comments?
I plan on asking for my credit back, it was just that bad, IMHO...
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