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For about two decades, John W. Loftus was a devout evangelical Christian, an ordained minister of the Church of Christ, and an ardent apologist for Christianity. With three degrees - in philosophy, theology, and philosophy of religion - he was adept at using rational argumentation to defend the faith. But over the years, doubts about the credibility of key Christian tenets began to creep into his thinking. By the late 1990s, he experienced a full-blown crisis of faith.
In this honest appraisal of his journey from believer to atheist, the author carefully explains the experiences and the reasoning process that led him to reject religious belief. The original edition of this book was published in 2006 and reissued in 2008. Since that time, Loftus has received a good deal of critical feedback from Christians and skeptics alike. In this revised and expanded edition, the author addresses criticisms of the original, adds new argumentation and references, and refines his presentation. For every issue, he succinctly summarizes the various points of view and provides references for further analyzation. In conclusion, he describes the implications of life without belief in God - some liberating, some sobering.
This frank critique of Christian belief from a former insider will interest freethinkers as well as anyone with doubts about the claims of religion.
What did you like best about this story?
I really enjoyed listening to, "Why I Became an Atheist". It is a well reasoned and constructed treatise about the intellectual journey of a dedicated Christian to the realization that there is no way any of this makes sense. I have a lot of respect for Mr. Loftus for what must have been a difficult, soul-wrenching quest.
What aspect of Buzz Kemper’s performance would you have changed?
The reader, Buzz Kemper, goes back and forth referring to the ultimate book in the Bible "Revelation" and Revelations". The book is entitled, "The Book of Revelation", or often known simply as "Revelation" or "The Apocalypse of John". Also, when referring to numbered books, he'll say, "2 Corinthians" instead of "Second Corinthians". I know the book is usually written as 2 Corinthians, but when we say it, we say Second Corinthians or Second Epistle to the Corinthians.
Any additional comments?
There are some other grammatical constructions that I find annoying, like saying, "the reason ... is BECAUSE ..." instead of, "the reason ... is THAT...". However, this was a very enjoyable book. I highly recommend it.
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I really didn't find this book very edifying. I don't think I came across anything that I didn't already know. My rule of thumb, if you're going to write a 30 plus hour book, tell me things I don't already know. The bible was created by man, it has really weird stuff in it, superstition is superstition no matter when, a God that punishes his Son for the sin that a talking snake tricked a man into, and Zombies roaming Jerusalem it's all too impossible to believe. But, the one thing I don't want to have to do is listen to hours of Bible quotes and using the myth believers' sources in order to refute the myth believers. I just refute it by ignoring a special pleading by anyone who thinks their Book is special and offer no proof for that whatsoever.
I just recently read Spinoza's "Tractatus" (it's available for free at LibriVox). One of the arguments this author (Loftus) made against Christianity is that Jesus invokes Beelzebub (the devil) in his argument against the Pharisees when they claim that Jesus is in league with the devil, and Jesus responds "that he can't be of the devil since a house can't stand divided against itself". Spinoza makes the point that those critics who claim that Jesus is accepting the reality of the devil miss the point of the argument. Jesus is only giving a proof by contradiction (or as this author, Loftus, says brilliantly earlier in the book, "opposites can't happen"). Look Spinoza made that point 350 years earlier can't Loftus at least acknowledge that in his discussion.
I really hate wasting my time in inside baseball or in this case inside Bible discussion points. All one has to do is listen to a clever Jesuit (who actually I love listening to) or a clever Orthodox Rabbi to know that if you assume their starting points you won't be able to win the arguments on points. It's books like this one that enable Jehovah Witnesses to argue their absurd points and to win converts.
I want to clarify. This book is not horrible, but it's really using the wrong approach to defend atheism (in my opinion). There is actually almost no science in this book whatsoever. I only mention that because the one book that liberated me from religious thought more than any other was "The 4% Universe". It opened my mind and led to hundreds of other science books and than ultimately philosophy and theology books. (I would recommend learn the science before delving into religion).
Logic can only take you so far. I'll give an example outside of the scope of this book, but relevant to why I didn't like this book. Quantum physics is characterized most succinctly by three statements, 1) at the most fundamental level particles are characterized as waves and particles simultaneously (wave particle duality), 2) cause and effect break down at the quantum level (that darn cat!), and 3) superposition (particles are everywhere and no where at the same time). Each of these are fundamental violations of one of the three rules of logic but we still accept quantum physics to be true. Logical inconsistency by itself is not enough to throw out all of physics (nor should it be). The author is trying to show that logical inconsistency by itself is enough to throw out a Christians worldview, but, perhaps all ontological foundations lead to contradictions.
The one book that's mentioned more often by the books I read than any other except for the Bible is Galileo's "Dialogs Concerning Two Chief World Systems". I just recently read it and it seems to me that most of the authors who cite it (including this author) did not read it with as much diligence as I did. They seem to not really understand it and I would recommend any one should read it and not rely on misleading summaries. The author quotes Kant's "Critique of Pure Reason" which I've just recently listened to through audible. Kant does a much more effected job at defending atheism by his antinomies than this book does. In the end, Kant appeals to the moral within man for his proof of God's existence. Look, authors of Atheism books, expect your listeners to have read the books you are citing, because some of us really, really want to understand. Give us something worth knowing beyond the superficial distractions that fill most of what permeates the easily accessible media or popular books!
Overall, I would recommend Bart Ehrman's many fine but detailed lectures or books on many of the topics which were not covered nearly as well in this book. I don't really dislike this author and he probably wrote a decent book for somebody who cares about inside Bible arguments, but in the future I hope the author learns it's okay to teach us things that are complicated and not to be afraid to talk above us. I want to learn, and the Bible offers me almost nothing (I really enjoy Ecclesiastes and therefore it can teach me something more than nothing).
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Would you say that listening to this book was time well-spent? Why or why not?
I really don't understand why authors don't take more time choosing a narrator, this one is so boring with almost monotone range of voice. Makes it so hard, you have to concentrate since it is very droning. I think I'm only going with the author as narrator from now on..
Who would you have cast as narrator instead of Buzz Kemper?
AUTHOR! Or a narrator with a lot more personality and vocal range; this one is like a rap singer with about a 4 note range..
If this book were a movie would you go see it?
Any additional comments?
choose narrator better, I may return this due to being so laborious to listen to
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it is good to know that you are not the only one who has noticed the discordant nature of Christianity with over 33,000 denominations, all claiming to be right while questioning the validity of all the remaining groups.
Not to mention the contradictions and serious unanswered questions that are uncovered when objectively studying the "Holy" bible.
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I liked the audio version but the print would probably be better. the author uses many quotes and with the audio book it becomes difficult to keep up with whether he is quoting or providing his own content. There is a ton of information provided which will keep you entertained.
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Would you listen to Why I Became an Atheist: A Former Preacher Rejects Christianity again? Why?
Not only would I, but I am. There is so much information that even going through it again a couple of times, I guarantee you'll find things you missed the first time around. The language is simple, the ideas are powerful, and it has a perspective from someone who understand that it means to be a Christian.
What other book might you compare Why I Became an Atheist: A Former Preacher Rejects Christianity to and why?
The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins and also The End of Faith by Sam Harris - they address the argument for and against the existence of a deity.
What does Buzz Kemper bring to the story that you wouldn’t experience if you just read the book?
He is one of the best readers, perfect intonation, speed and perfect pauses. The editing has some minor mistakes, but nothing that would distract from the topic (one of those minor editing mistakes did make me laugh when the reader's comment "oh, I'm out of breath" was not deleted from the final product. Still, excellent reader and I highly recommend him.
Was there a moment in the book that particularly moved you?
Several, too many to mention. I had to stop the audio book many times to take some notes on some great points being made.
Any additional comments?
This book treats Christians with a great deal of respect and I think this would make a great present to family and friends who are Christian and are interested in knowing more about the Christian theology.
Worst editing of any audiobook I've ever read. Multiple takes in every chapter. There were even times when the narrator said "ah I'm running out of breath" and it was left in.
The book itself is good. It's awfully long for the point being made, and much of the back half does much less good as an audiobook, because it's mostly a set of biblical refutations - a reference manual, not a novel.
Also Loftus goes out of his way to question the stance of those who have shown that it's more probable there was no historical Jesus. That itself is fine, but then the bulk of his reasoning for being an Atheist is, almost word for word, the same reasoning presented by the Jesus mythicists. Had he just omitted his opinion of the Jesus myth argument, he'd have been fine otherwise.
Overall, the arguments offered in this book encompass a large range of positions with honest critique. It is well organized without much fluff to fill in spaces (because honestly, it covers too much material to leave space!).
The narrator's voice is pleasant to listen too, but too booming. I had to lower my bass down in my car almost all the way. This is a problem for many books though. One major issue is that this recording was not edited well. It's embarrassing for the narrator as well as the author. This is the only reason I gave it 4/5 stars for Performance. However, Buzz did a great job considering the monstrous (in a good way) length of this book.
I am not sure if the audio book was not listened to before releasing or if that person needs to be fired, lol. There are many errors in the recording I.e. The reader says a mistake and then he goes back and rereads it again correctly. At one point he works to figure out the correct pronunciation for a few seconds and then goes on. Quite funny. Also it would be nice if the narrator had an idea how to pronounce biblical words. It makes the listener feel the writer has no clue what he is talking about. But of course it is the narrator that is ignorant to this. Great book though. Mr Loftus is great!!
The text of the book and the arguments presented are sound. A great book.
I enjoyed the narrator. There were some issues with editing such as the narrator speaking fast and saying he's running out of breath. There were many times he departed words that were not edited property. There were so many mispronunciations of words that listening became frustrating
There were so many issues with this audiobook that like the book this audio format needs to be revised.
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This is a gem in my modest collection of books on atheism.
Loftus covers every blade of grass when it comes to the arguments for and against the existence of God, with absolutely tons of references to boot. Above all he makes one crucial point; most of these logical arguments are rarely the reasons for belief/unbelief in a deity, but the personal honest assessment of one's own life experiences tends to be the defining