On this special live-recorded episode from the 2024 CNAS National Security Conference, Emily Kilcrease talks with Daleep Singh, Deputy National Security Advisor for International Economics, about what to expect from the G7 leaders' summit, using frozen Russian assets to finance Ukraine's resistance, the role of sanctions in targeting China's material support to Russia, and China's broader geoeconomic ambitions.

Emily Kilcrease is Senior Fellow and Program Director in the Energy, Economics, & Security Program at CNAS. Her research focuses on economic statecraft and economic security.

Daleep Singh is Deputy National Security Advisor for International Economics at the White House.

Welcome to Derisky Business! On this episode, we discuss the Biden Administration’s recent tariffs on Chinese electric vehicles, batteries, solar panels, and other goods. Diving into the arguments for and against tariffs, the episode explores the reasoning behind targeting these specific goods and the implications on domestic and international markets. Looking ahead, we analyze what new and old tariffs mean for the U.S.-China economic relationship at large, potential Chinese retaliation, the green transition, and a new geoeconomic status quo.

Emily Kilcrease is senior fellow and program director in the Energy, Economics, & Security Program at the CNAS. Her research focuses on economic statecraft and economic security.

Geoff Gertz is senior fellow in the Energy, Economics, & Security Team at the Center for a New American Security. His research focuses on technology competition, digital policy and data governance, and geoeconomics.

Adam Tong is associate fellow in the Energy, Economics, & Security Team at the Center for a New American Security. His research focuses on U.S. - China economic competition, China's economic statecraft, and sanction resilience.

This is Derisky Business, a new podcast from the Center for a New American Security that explores economic security issues within the broader national security and foreign policy.

Hosts Emily Kilcrease, director of the energy, economics and security program at CNAS, and Geoff Gertz, senior fellow on the energy, economics and security team, will answer questions like:

Do sanctions against Russia work, and can the U.S. use economic pressure to deter conflict with China?

Through interviews with government officials, private sector leaders, and national security experts, Derisky Business will be your go-to source for understanding and assessing the policies for U.S. leadership in the global economy.

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