• Jared Dillian (From Lehman Brothers to 2021 – how did the financial industry change?)

  • Aug 27 2021
  • Length: 45 mins
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Jared Dillian (From Lehman Brothers to 2021 – how did the financial industry change?)

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  • 00:00:23 How did Jared's path from Lehman Brothers to Internet personality develop?00:05:06 How did the finance industry develop during the last 20 years?00:08:18 Jared's experience on writing a novel (and how it compares to his other book)?00:11:29 What is Jared's view of the deflation/ inflation debate?00:17:03 Is productivity growth really as low as we assume? What role do stock buybacks play?00:22:01 Is individual risk taking the key to increase productivity growth?00:25:01 What are great areas of investment according to Jared?00:30:01 Will DeFi eradicate banks and most of the financial industry?00:34:01 Is the banking industry a good indicator for the health and competitiveness of an economy?00:38:36 How consistent should financial commentators be? Jared Dillian is the author of Street Freak: Money and Madness at Lehman Brothers, named one of the top business books of 2011 by Businessweek magazine. Jared runs The Daily Dirtnap, LLC, which provides daily market commentary and insight to a range of institutional clients. Big Thanks to our Sponsors! ExpressVPN – Claim back your Internet privacy for less than $10 a month! Mighty Travels Premium – incredible airfare and hotel deals – so everyone can afford to fly Business Class and book 5 Star Hotels! Sign up for free! Divvy – get business credit without a personal guarantee and 21st century spend management plus earn 7x rewards on restaurants & more. Get started for free! Brex – get a business account, a credit card, spend management & convertible rewards for every dollar you spend. Plus now earn $250 just for signing up (Terms & Conditions apply).   Torsten Jacobi : Jared, thanks a lot for coming unto the Judgment Call Podcast, I really appreciate that. Jared Dillian: Yeah. Torsten Jacobi : Hey, thanks for taking the time. And you know, you have a really interesting history, and it's something that's becoming a bit of a theme though, is you started in an investment bank, and you worked for Lehman Brothers, then you wrote a book, you became an author, and now you're an internet personality, you run your own internet business, your own content business. Maybe you can tell us a little bit more about this transition, how this came upon, and how do you feel, was it the right choice looking back, or do you feel like, well, no, I want to go back to an investment bank? Jared Dillian : No, it was absolutely the right choice. It was funny because I was talking to my old boss at Lehman, this is the guy that I worked for 2001, 2002, and he told me a story of, you know, when I worked for him, we used to get the Garmin letter. I don't know if you know Dennis Garmin, but we used to get the Garmin letter at Lehman Brothers, and he had probably the biggest financial newsletter. It was a daily letter, and I used to get this stuff, and you know, I liked it. I didn't, you know, I didn't think his writing was the best, but I said, this is an amazing business. I was like, you can just get paid to write about finance, you know, I'd never heard of this before. So around 2003, you know, I had this idea in my head that I wanted to write a financial newsletter, so I had some ideas, and my initial idea was it would be sort of a retail newsletter. I would charge a very small amount of money, about $150 a year, and I would do personal finance stuff, and then I would do seminars and stuff like that. And I figured if I had 1,000 subscribers, I would make $150,000 a year, and that would be enough. And then what happened was, while I was at Lehman, I was put in charge of the ETF desk, and I was told to just grow the business, because the business was very small. They said grow the business, so my idea was to do that through writing. So I started writing market commentary and sending it out to people, and it was very popular, and it grew, and it grew, and it grew. So by the time the bankruptcy came around, I had several thousand people on my list, and I said, you know, I can easily monetize this, so the day the bankruptcy, I sent out a message. I said, I'm going to start a newsletter, and you know, hundreds of people said I'll sign up. So I quit Lehman Brothers, and I started the business, you know, I formed an LLC, and I got some office space, and about six weeks later, I started sending out content again, and I got a few hundred people to sign up, and that was the beginning of the newsletter. So that was in 2008, and about that time, I was also approached to write a book about my time at Lehman Brothers. There was a literary agent that found me and asked me to write a book about it, and initially I said no, but six months later, I came around and I said yes. So while the early days of writing the newsletter, I was writing this book, and that came out in 2011. So there's just been a bunch of stuff since then, I started writing from Alden Economics in 2014, I wrote another book in 2016, I'm an op ed columnist at Bloomberg, I've taught finance at the undergraduate...
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