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Decoding the Gurus

Decoding the Gurus

De: Christopher Kavanagh and Matthew Browne
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An exiled Northern Irish anthropologist and a hitchhiking Australian psychologist take a close look at the contemporary crop of 'secular gurus', iconoclasts, and other exiles from the mainstream, offering their own brands of unique takes and special insights. Leveraging two of the most diverse accents in modern podcasting, Chris and Matt dig deep into the claims, peek behind the psychological curtains, and try to figure out once and for all... What's it all About? Join us, as we try to puzzle our way through and talk some smart-sounding smack about the intellectual giants of our age, from Jordan Peterson to Robin DiAngelo. Are they revolutionary thinkers or just grifters with delusions of grandeur? Join us and let's find out!Copyright 2025 Christopher Kavanagh and Matthew Browne Ciencia Ciencias Sociales
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  • Supplementary Material 38: Toxic Mould Symbiosis, Mild Phrenology, and the Best People in the World

    Supplementary Material 38: Toxic Mould Symbiosis, Mild Phrenology, and the Best People in the World
    Oct 14 2025

    We end the futile struggle, embrace the toxins, and become one with our mould brethren.

    The full episode is available to Patreon subscribers (2 hours, 38 minutes).

    Join us at: https://www.patreon.com/DecodingTheGurus

    Supplementary Material 38

    00:00 Intro

    02:54 Boomer Matt reacts to Twitter videos

    07:31 Shellenberger and Tucker discuss the 9/11 Files

    12:42 Eric's Google Ngram Investigations

    17:08 Vindication on the Elephant Graveyard

    22:00 Eric's ARC lecture goes viral

    25:24 Andrew Huberman is NOT a phrenologist...

    29:06 Eric Weinstein vs. Piers Morgan

    33:44 Everyone knows Eric is a serious thinker

    46:09 Peterson is taken out of the Gurusphere by Demons and Toxic Mould

    52:09 Gurus and Bespoke Alternative Health

    57:00 Social Contagion Hypocrisy

    01:02:55 Toxic Mould Symbiosis?

    01:04:46 Pewdiepie, Diogenes, and the Seeker Mindset

    01:16:14 The Wisdom of the Ancients

    01:21:01 The Meaning Crisis and Christian Pivots

    01:22:29 Konstantin Kisin's surprising Christian pivot

    01:25:17 The best person Konstantin ever met (not Francis)

    01:30:22 The Fifth Column Agrees with Megyn Kelly 88% of the time

    01:33:07 Megyn Kelly explains how the Democrats crossed the line and must pay

    01:41:35 Intellectual Clerics for MAGA

    01:43:16 Slightly Adversarial libertarians for hire

    01:47:00 Drew Pavlou and Fluid Populism

    01:50:17 Two Varieties of Online Derangement: Noah Smith's Hot Takes

    01:53:57 Need for Attention = Desire for Virality

    01:57:23 Status Seeking Networkers vs Paul Bloom

    02:01:27 Reflecting on the Al Murray Interview

    02:02:22 The struggle of podcasters

    02:04:52 Paul Bloom: The best person in the world?

    02:06:00 Mike Israetel's Thesis Controversy

    02:10:30 What does a PhD mean?

    02:16:55 David Deutsch visits Curt Jaimungal

    02:22:32 The Dangers of Doubling Down: Pirate Software

    02:23:32 Hasan Piker and Shock Collar-gate

    02:27:15 Matt's Take on Shock Collars

    02:33:51 Dystopia Update: Putin wants Trump to win the Nobel Prize

    02:37:11 Outro

    Sources

    • Shellenberger and Tucker discuss the CIA’s role in 9/11
    • Grok pressing Eric to get specific
    • The Elephant Graveyard
    • Viral post about Eric’s ARC speech on science
    • Huberman’s phrenology endorsement
    • Jordan Peterson’s Health Update from Mikhaila
    • Chris Williamson: It’s time to talk about my health.
    • Chang, C., & Gershwin, M. E. (2019). The myth of mycotoxins and mold injury. Clinical Reviews in Allergy & Immunology, 57(3), 449–455.
    • Borchers, A. T., Chang, C., & Eric Gershwin, M. (2017). Mold and human health: A reality check. Clinical Reviews in Allergy & Immunology, 52(3), 305–322.
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  • A Sense-Making Odyssey, Part 2: Jordan Peterson, John Vervaeke & Jordan Hall

    A Sense-Making Odyssey, Part 2: Jordan Peterson, John Vervaeke & Jordan Hall
    Sep 25 2025

    Matt and Chris once again take up their oars and plunge deeper into the recursive whirlpools of contemporary sensemaking. Picking up where Part 1 left off, having grappled with conscience, touchstones, hierarchies, and normativity, we return to the sensemaking labyrinth to see just how many more words and concepts the combined powers of Peterson, Vervaeke, and Hall can stretch to breaking point.

    This second leg of the voyage allows us to chart more of the universal sensemaking grammar, with its biblical scaffolding, liberal use of metaphors, and frequent exhortations to ascend Jacob’s ladder. But alongside Peterson's predictable biblical musings, you can also thrill at unexpected treats like John Vervaeke unveiling how finite transcendence connects to inexhaustible intelligibility and Jordan Hall explaining that even silence can be a form of sensemaking.

    Expect symbolic snakes, dangling ropes, and ecological psychology refashioned for mystical ascent, Augustine rediscovered through Plato, and culture reframed as an alcoholic parent. Or if you prefer, enjoy detours into atheists and their Luciferian egos, the sacred role of play, and the profound revelations that can be drawn from childhood disappointments at McDonald’s and grandfathers complaining about Nixonian duplicity

    So join us for the final leg of the Sensemaking Odyssey. Sharpen your mind, get ready to traverse through 3D space, and prepare for an encounter with the Logos... in the context of listening to a podcast.

    Sources

    • A Dialogue So Dangerous, It Just Might Bring You Wisdom | John Vervaeke and Jordan Hall | EP 532
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    2 h y 37 m
  • Supplementary Material 37: Public Murder Discourse, Heterodox Psychodramas, and Generous Tit for Tat-ers

    Supplementary Material 37: Public Murder Discourse, Heterodox Psychodramas, and Generous Tit for Tat-ers
    Sep 20 2025

    Why are we never invited to these dinners? We wonder if it was something we said or if our invitation just got lost in the mail, as we endure the inevitable discourse wave that followed in the wake of Charlie Kirk's murder.

    The full episode is available to Patreon subscribers (2 hours, 21 minutes).

    Join us at: https://www.patreon.com/DecodingTheGurus

    Supplementary Material 37

    00:00 Introduction

    01:10 Cooking Gurus?

    05:39 Sensemaking Overindulgence

    07:19 Feedback on The Elephant Graveyard Segment

    14:07 Gary is awarded an Honorary Doctorate by SOAS

    19:15 On the Murder of Charlie Kirk

    24:49 Murder is Bad & Charlie Kirk was a Polemicist

    38:07 Hypocritical Calls for Violence: Elon Musk and Tommy Robinson

    41:32 The Superficial Celebrations of Luigi Mangione

    44:52 Michael Shermer is an entirely non-skeptical partisan

    47:16 Eric Weinstein and the rush to post

    49:48 Joe Rogan argues with his friend on vaccines

    58:11 Predictable Pivot

    01:05:30 Blocked and Reported discuss the Interpersonal Psychodramas of the Heterodox

    01:07:07 The Thick Skin of Michael Shellenberger

    01:11:41 Being Bret Weinstein's +1

    01:13:39 Dave Rubin does not appreciate public criticism

    01:16:29 A Heterodox DM encounter

    01:21:01 Money and Macro's Video on Gary's Economics

    01:27:56 The DTG approach vs Debunking

    01:29:43 The Nature of Expertise and Criticism

    01:31:17 Researching Guru Claims

    01:36:37 Destiny invokes the Prisoner's Dilemma and Tit for Tat strategies

    01:40:59 Generous Tit for Tat

    01:46:28 Konstantin Kisin's warning about alternative media

    01:54:26 Konstantin's "Consistency"

    02:01:44 Next Gurus and Fake Outro

    02:03:44 Decoding the Gamers: Caves of Qud and Two Point Museum

    02:08:11 Retro School Games: Drug Wars, Beachhead and Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego?

    02:11:53 Real Outro

    Sources

    • SOAS honorary awardees for 2025
    • What did Elon Musk say at far-right UK rally and did his remarks break the law?
    • “We Either Fight Back or Die” – Elon Musk's Fierce Speech at London 'Unite The Kingdom' Rally | APT
    • Shermer's tweet after Charlie Kirk's murder
    • Joe Rogan and Bryan Callen on vaccines
    • He Had One Product, $80K in Funding, and One Influencer - And Unilever Just Acquired His Company for 9 Figures
    • Michael Shellenberger Mixed Up Two Guys With Sorta Similar Names And Falsely Told His Readers — And Congress — One Of Them Might Be A Spy As A Result
    • Blocked and Reported Premium: Taylor Lorenz And The Perils Of Journafluencing (Part...
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    42 m
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Chris and Matt are carrying hammers trying to Whack-A-Mole all the gurus coming out of their misinformed, self-indulgent, self-aggrandizing, conspiratorial podcast holes. The hosts are approaching the topics in good faith. If you are interested in understanding how gurus build their cult-like following, and the techniques they use to manipulate their listeners, then the boys have you covered. The main critique I have for the podcast is that it's a tad bit too long at times. If you don't find the topics interesting, they have funny accents.

A much needed podcast in the age of gurus.

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Wonderfully entertaining and insightful, as well as excessively verbose!
I adore the conversations.
I also appreciate not having to do my own research.

Thurough assessments

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Two ignorant rambling researchers think its hilarious to treat serious issues like gender dysphoria with toxic and immature mockery. What right do they have to causually cissplain (with a known transphobic Helen Lewis) anything to anyone? Do they realise what it's like to grow up confused about identity. Do they talk about the mental and physical abuse perpetrated by others on the LGBTQIA+ community or the unacceptable suicide rates? No. They just compare fighting for human decency and rights of every individual to the despicable orthodoxy of churches that believe in superbeings who created the earth and let all their disciples get away with pedophilia! They just pretend they are objective because their whole life has revolved around an insecure, fragile, colonial biased paradigm. Brainwashed and self-delusional. They think they are objective because they mock those hate crime mongers from the IDW. That childish sarcasm and laughter when talking about Peterson and the ilk, and then that vomit inducing feeling sorry/not sorry for being 'meanies' is nothing more than acting as apologists for those criminal misogynists and supporting hate speech. Barely able to listen to an older one on Ibram X Kendi but it is obvious they have a major issue with critical race theory, anti-racism and the BLM movement. I will issue a formal complaint about this podcast and hope you will do the same.

Toxic bigotted juveniles must be muted

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