• If We Were Villains

  • A Novel
  • By: M. L. Rio
  • Narrated by: Robert Petkoff
  • Length: 12 hrs and 50 mins
  • 4.3 out of 5 stars (805 ratings)

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Publisher's Summary

Oliver Marks has just served 10 years in jail - for a murder he may or may not have committed. On the day he's released, he's greeted by the man who put him in prison. Detective Colborne is retiring, but before he does, he wants to know what really happened a decade ago.

As one of seven young actors studying Shakespeare at an elite arts college, Oliver and his friends play the same roles onstage and off: hero, villain, tyrant, temptress. But when the casting changes, and the secondary characters usurp the stars, the plays spill dangerously over into life, and one of them is found dead. The rest face their greatest acting challenge yet: convincing the police, and themselves, that they are blameless. Intelligent, thrilling, and richly detailed, If We Were Villains is a captivating story of the enduring power and passion of words.

©2017 M. L. Rio (P)2017 Macmillan Audio

Critic Reviews

"Much like Donna Tartt's The Secret History, M. L. Rio's sparkling debut is a richly layered story of love, friendship, and obsession.... If We Were Villains will keep you riveted through its final, electrifying moments." (Cynthia D'Aprix Sweeney, New York Times best-selling author of The Nest)

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Fake deep with a side of bland

Whomever compared this to The Secret History doesn't deserve anymore books. I was so excited for something even nearly comparable to my favorite Donna Tartt novel that I leaped into this with reckless abandon. The story is just meh and the characters are shallow. The only two adjectives the author seems to have stocked up for female characters are slim & curvy.

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Way too long a tease

I was so frustrated with this book I almost didn't finish it. It's over 12 hours but there is about 6 hours' worth of novel in it - the rest is filled in with bits of Shakespeare plays. At first I was delighted because I am a Shakespeare buff but it got old that the students were always quoting, even when they were "drunker than I had ever seen him." The premise of the novel is a tease: we know right away a crime has been committed but we don't know what the crime was or when it occurred or "who dunnit." The first "reveal" took WAY too long and so did the second. If this had been a physical book I would have thrown it across the room. I was disappointed in the ending - it didn't seem plausible to me.

This author can really write - the language is beautiful - but IMO the book needs some serious editing.

The narrator was wonderful - his voice sounded just the right age for college students and he varied it nicely among the characters.

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amazing

I really enjoyed this audio book. the voice was prefect the plot and characters really suck you into this world. I would recommend this to anyone.

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If I Were a Numb-Skulled Nelly-belled Nincompoop


Might Have Been Entitled

If I Were a Numb-Skulled Nelly-Belled Nincompoop ...
(But Alas, I Shan't Spoil It for You.)

2.5 bumped up to 3 for debut novel.

The book was heavy on histrionics for narrative fiction (as opposed to a play); too predictable to be a mystery novel; definitely too hokey for literary fiction. For example, without warning, the characters in the midst of regular dialogue tend to break into pages of lines from Shakespeare.

Plus, I just never connected with any of the characters.

Nevertheless, the story should much please Shakespearean "folly-fallen, foot-lickers," and all fans of soapy suspense.

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Slow building tragedy

The narration by Robert Petkoff absolutely makes this story emotionally compelling. The plot itself is quite reminiscent of "The Secret History", using Shakespeare and theatre as a backdrop. I found the story a little over-long, especially as the outcome was signaled well before the end. Excellent character development, and Robert Petkoff gave each character a recognizable voice.

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just wow!

guessed the ending early bc I know Shakespeare and was so wrapped up I couldn't put it down. I so, so hoped I was wrong and sobbed silently the last chapter. heart wrenching and beautifully human. a must read!

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I never write reviews, but...

What would have made If We Were Villains better?

This is a ZERO star story! The characters are terrible, self-involved people and the story is even worse...I just wanted it to be over. I can't get my time back, but I will most certainly ask for my credit back. Nothing can save this book, it belongs in a literary dust bin!

Would you ever listen to anything by M. L. Rio again?

NO!

Who would you have cast as narrator instead of Robert Petkoff?

No one, not even Jim Dale, could fix what is wrong with this story. It's not the fault of the narrator, the writing is terrible!

What reaction did this book spark in you? Anger, sadness, disappointment?

Anger, disappointment and sheer boredom.

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Narration OUT of this WORLD

The Masterful narration managed to make a full emotional story even more believable. I found myself immersed fully .

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Wow

I loved this roller coaster of a book. The word choice kept me captivated. I don't go crazy over fine art and Shakespeare, though this book had a spell over me with all its passion that made me want too! I highly recommend listening to this gem!

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Engaging and dramatic for the Shakespeare Lover

Great reader who really brings the prose to life.The story, while melodramatic, does touch on a truth of both actors and theatre lovers. even better if you are familiar with Shakespeare, but that knowledge is not necessary.

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  • Steven Sugden
  • 07-18-18

A muddled and unconvincing tale.

Not really a who dunnit. More of a coming of age book with underdeveloped themes.

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  • Norma Miles
  • 05-09-18

If it be not now yet it will come.

Ten years ago, Oliver had been one of a group, both male and female, of seven aspiring actors, the only survivors in their chosen genre to obtain the fourth year of a rigourous ànd prestigious arts college. They lived, worked and played together, grew close, knowing each other's foibles, strengths and weaknesses. Apparently a tightly knit band of friends, internally there were, nevertheless, growing rifts of tensions, love, fear and jealousies.
The intervening ten years, Oliver had spent in prison.

A beautifully crafted book, If We Were Villains takes the reader inside the almost isolationist group, seeing their last year together from Oliver's point of view, introducing and giving life to each of the other six companions as well as a few other members of the college faculty, and delightfully engages in a few of the productions - Romeo and Juliet, Macbeth, Julius Caesar and, finally, King Lear - in which the group took centre stage. Shakespearian quotations are frequently used by the students in conversational repartee.

Continuing the theatrical theme, the book is divided into five acts, each of which is subdivided into scenes, written in the first person, as Oliver relates to a just retired police detective the events that had occurred in the period ten years ago which led to his imprisonment. And each act begins with a single prologue set in present day, the situation as it now exists. This device works well and makes understanding easy. The whole story works well, simple to follow, as well as helping to build tension. And the story itself is a good one although flattening out somewhat towards the end.

Narrator Robert Petkoff had a formidable task: not only to read clearly, with understanding of the text, but also to portray the individual protagonists both in conversation and as actors performing in the Shakespearean plays, a double identity conundrum. And he succeeds admirably, each being distinct and recognisable - a remarkable achievement and one which greatly enhanced the experience of the book.

If We Were Villains has been likened to Donna Tart's Secret History, and there is a similarity of feeling, but they are very different. M.L.Rio's book is less of a mystery but still a complex interaction of a close 'family' of strangers, at the beginning of their adult lives and each with their future hopes and expectations, brought together by their love of Shakespeare.
An easy and absorbing read. A book to savour and enjoy.
Recommended.

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  • Anonymous User
  • 05-17-22

Truly an amazing book

the characters and the plot are very well written, impeccable prose. if you want emotion and beautiful, poetic writing, this is the one

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  • Alison
  • 03-14-22

beautiful and tragic

I loved this.
A definite read those who enjoyed Donna Tarte's The Secret History. Thrilling, character driven and drenched in Shakespeare - what more could you want?

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  • Amazon Customer
  • 01-30-22

Excellent and gripping

As well as encouraging me to read more Shakespeare, this book completely captivated me from start to finish. I loved the structure, the rhythm, the language and use of Shakespeare throughout was fantastic. I have just finished it at want to pick it right back up again!

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  • Anonymous User
  • 01-21-22

Breathtaking, captivating, well written

I absolutely loved this book. It is so well written and captivating. At the beginning I thought I would struggle with the fact that a big part of the protagonists' conversations include quoting Shakespeare, but it works so so well. You quickly come to understand the world thought their eyes and get immersed in it.
I particularly loved the narration, it really added the final touch to the whole experience. Would definitely recommend

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  • Anonymous User
  • 12-02-21

Not easy but worth it

Great book well written, not an easy listen but give it time, well worth giving it your full attention

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  • Kirsikka Wirtanen
  • 12-01-21

wonderful

i couldnt stop listening to this. actually i got so immersed into it that i could feel every emotion the characters went through. my heart will ache for them and the tragedy of their story for a long time after this too, im sure.
overall a wonderful book.

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  • Amazon Customer
  • 11-21-21

This book broke my heart

When I read the last sentence I nearly threw it across the room! But I loved every minuet of it. The characters, the plays, the ongoing tension between everyone the whole way through the story, just 😍.
The Shakespeare elements could be a bit much for someone who doesn't read that kind of thing, and gave off a cultish vibe, which is acknowledged by Oliver eventually, but personally I enjoyed it.

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  • Clare Tunilla
  • 05-25-20

I loved this

I loved this.

I didn't think I would. In fact, I put it off for months. But I loved this so much. The mystery, which I didn't see until more than half way through, the angst. Everything. Also, I highly recommend the audiobook.

Because of this I have borrowed two of the mentioned Shakespeare plays from my library.

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  • Sarah A
  • 09-19-20

THIS IS IT! MY FAVOURITE BOOK OF ALL TIME!

OH GOD. HOW DOES ONE EVEN RECOVER FROM A BOOK LIKE THIS?
When I tell you that I give heavy with the dark academia aesthetic, this is the exact book you need to read to understand what I mean. The theatre nature about this book made me nostalgic for the days I sent studying theatre performance in my undergrad. The love these seven students have for Shakespeare reminded me of how much I love him too. I wish I was able to memorise passages well. I’d never stop quoting Shakespeare. Dellecher is the kind of school that you wished you went to for your academic learning. I wish I had a tight group of friends like the ones in this book (minus the murder bit). The unique element that I enjoyed about this book was how the climax happened early in the book. I won’t lie, I was able to guess who was going to get killed and who did it so there really wasn’t much for the element of surprise. Rio brilliantly showed us the downfall of the students and how such a tragedy can impact each of their souls and lives. Honestly, nothing short of magnificent. I cried at the ending because I didn’t expect it whatsoever. The alternate timelines was also beautifully done. Not too much of the present tense and just the right amount of past tense. The characters are uniquely flawed. The only character I wish we got more from was Wren. God I can’t even begin to describe how much I love this book. This is the kind of book that ruined me emotionally and will stick with me for a lifetime. I’m glad I have a physical copy so that I can go back and read it all the time. Rio had me captivated the entire time. I never wanted to put it down. How does one go back to normal after discovering their favourite book of all time?

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  • Casey Bohan
  • 10-02-20

'Lets sit upon the ground and tell sad stories...'

This is the perfect combination of a fantastic book with a fantastic reader. Petkoff captures Oliver and each character excellently and the quoted Shakespeare was equally superb. A thrilling story with some real characters you can love. Highly recommend, especially if you are a fan of the theatre or Shakespeare, this will tickle your fancy and your inner theatre kid in just the right ways.