Welcome to our season 1 finale! In this episode, Gabe and Katie discuss the importance of engaging in loving disagreement–as inspired by Kathy Khang & Matt Mikalatos’ book, Loving Disagreement–and being friends with people you disagree with. It’s something most of us agree that we want in theory…but it’s not so easy in practice.

They share personal experiences and dissect a few examples of how leaning into disagreement beyond civility can cause harm or healing. Dive in with us! As we embrace discomfort and prioritize community and help to build a just world through getting comfy with disagreement.

Mentioned in the episode:

Loving Disagreement: Fighting for Community Through the Fruit of the Spirit by Kathy Khang and Matt Mikalatos

ccda.org/conference

Hosts: Katie Nguyen Palomares & Gabriel Palomares

Engineer: Katie Nguyen Palomares (Join our Patreon below to help us pay for an engineer other than Katie!)

Designer: Josue Carballo-Huertas

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The Beauty In-Between podcast is part of the Chasing Justice Podcast Network. To support our podcast directly and the work of Chasing Justice, please join the Chasing Justice Patreon at patreon.com/chasingjustice. To find out more, visit chasingjustice.com.

Chapters

00:00 Intro + Catch Up

03:48 Can We Be Friends With People We Disagree With?

05:26 Navigating Uncomfortable Conversations: The Key to Maintaining Friendships with Differing Opinions

06:13 Trust and Respect: The Foundation of Friendships with Differing Beliefs

09:08 Engaging in Disagreements: A Path to Deeper Understanding

10:59 Challenges of Navigating Differing Political Views

12:13 Creating a Safe Space for Open Dialogue: The Importance of the Honor System

13:28 Ushering in the Kingdom through Disagreement

16:55 Going Beyond Civility in Disagreements

17:59 Taking a Stance in Disagreements

20:37 The Power of Listening in Disagreements

28:09 Disagreement vs. Disregarding

33:36 Humility in Disagreements

38:37 Embracing Uncomfortable Conversations

40:24 Fighting for Community over Comfort

In this episode, Gabe and Katie discuss gaming culture: from casual to competitive, and the toxic behavior that can arise in the gaming community to bonding with friends and family, we cover a little bit of everything today.

The conversation touches on the tension between having a safe space to escape to and becoming addicted to gaming. For those outside of gaming, there is an opportunity to engage and connect with gamers by showing interest and understanding. It is important to have open and honest conversations about gaming and its impact on individuals and relationships.

Hosts: Katie Nguyen Palomares & Gabriel Palomares

Engineer: Katie Nguyen Palomares

Designer: Josue Carballo-Huertas

Follow us on IG: @thebeautyinbetweenpod / @k.nguyen.palomares / @gaprap104

The Beauty In-Between podcast is part of the Chasing Justice Podcast Network. To support our podcast directly and the work of Chasing Justice, please join the Chasing Justice Patreon at patreon.com/chasingjustice. To find out more, visit chasingjustice.com.

Well, friends, we hope you like this one! This conversation was originally going to probably go one direction, and we wound up heading in a totally new one instead.

Divorce is something that isn’t well understood, taught about, or talked about in the church - and more often than not, there aren’t a ton of resources or stories within the Church for children going through divorces that involve adultery, abuse, narcissism, or ongoing lying. There’s plenty that Katie left unsaid for the sake of honoring all of her parents, but we think this was still quite an edifying and healing conversation.

Hopefully Katie sharing and unpacking her experience as a child of walking through two very different divorces can help someone out there process a little more about your own experience!

God does not call bad things good, but he doesn’t leave us in the midst of any of it. And he really is good. Listen into this open, raw conversation between Gabe and Katie about this important topic.

Hosts: Katie Nguyen Palomares & Gabriel Palomares

Engineer: Katie Nguyen Palomares

Designer: Josue Carballo-Huertas

Follow us on IG: @thebeautyinbetweenpod / @k.nguyen.palomares / @gaprap104

The Beauty In-Between podcast is part of the Chasing Justice Podcast Network. To support our podcast directly and the work of Chasing Justice, please join the Chasing Justice Patreon at patreon.com/chasingjustice. To find out more, visit chasingjustice.com.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Personal Updates

04:04 Diving into the Topic of Divorce

13:09 Lack of Contact with Father

13:34 Labeling the Divorces

18:04 Taking on New Responsibilities

21:16 Discovering New Aspects of Mom

24:54 Emotions and Vulnerability

28:52 Introduction and Background

30:54 Survival Mode Mentality and Trust

32:37 Confronting Wounds and Healing

39:58 The Challenges of Trust and Vulnerability

42:14 The Impact of Emotional Support

45:42 The Struggle of Depending on Others

48:09 Reflections on the Conversation

53:39 God's Redemption and Purpose

56:15 Closing Remarks and Call to Action

Today we dive into the neurospicy world of ADHD! ADHD is something that’s still being researched today, and in recent years is only now beginning to have more expansive research done. Gabe shares his personal journey with ADHD, from childhood to adulthood, and his experience with diagnosis and medication. We also go more into exploring what ADHD has meant for Gabe in how he engages in community and relationships.

Jump into this conversation with us, whether you’re neurotypical or neurospicy, we hope there’s something here for everyone to take away from the conversation about loving ourselves and our neighbors better.

Resources (as promised):

ADHD Aha!

Black Girl Lost Keys

Taking Control: The ADHD Podcast

additudemag.com

This was a fun episode for us! In this episode, Katie and Gabe discuss the intersection of the fear of success, fear of failure, and imposter syndrome, and how it comes into play in our daily lives. We get into some of our personal experiences with perspectives on past failures and success, and explore the impact of self-talk when we make mistakes and how that in turn can shape our self-perception.

Overall, we get into a casual, but pretty in-depth conversation that highlights the complex nature of where we believe success and failure comes from. Hopefully, our conversation can help you begin to embrace a growth mentality, trust in the Lord's work in your lives, and recognize your inherent value and dignity simply because you’re you.

Hosts: Katie Nguyen Palomares & Gabriel Palomares

Engineer: Katie Nguyen Palomares

Designer: Josue Carballo-Huertas

Follow us on IG: @thebeautyinbetweenpod / @k.nguyen.palomares / @gaprap104

The Beauty In-Between podcast is part of the Chasing Justice Podcast Network. To support our podcast directly and the work of Chasing Justice, please join the Chasing Justice Patreon at patreon.com/chasingjustice. To find out more, visit chasingjustice.com.

In this episode, we have our first guest! Gabe & Katie got to sit down with John Onwuchekwa to talk about his background in vocational ministry, serial entrepreneurship, and what ministry can look like for the rest of us. In our conversation, we discussed more about the nuance in understanding the distinction between “vocation” and “calling” and how that can play out in our lives.

Dive into this conversation with us where we go a little deeper in exploring what “ministry” means, what it can look like for everyday believers in our lives. Also, this episode was filmed in the middle of real life and wound up with a couple more un-fixable background sounds. We appreciate your grace with us in that, and look forward to hearing your thoughts on what resonates with you from this episode!

Hosts: Katie Nguyen Palomares & Gabriel Palomares

Guest: Dr. John Onwuchekwa

Engineer: Katie Nguyen Palomares

Designer: Josue Carballo-Huertas

Follow us on IG: @thebeautyinbetweenpod / @k.nguyen.palomares / @gaprap104

The Beauty In-Between podcast is part of the Chasing Justice Podcast Network. To support our podcast directly and the work of Chasing Justice, please join the Chasing Justice Patreon at patreon.com/chasingjustice. To find out more, visit chasingjustice.com.

Mentioned in the episode:

You can purchase John’s book he wrote on finding meaning in what God is doing through grief, We Go On here: www.johno.co/books - check it out!

Join Katie in enjoying Portrait coffee beans and drop by the brick & mortar in Atlanta’s West End: portrait.coffee/

IG: @jawn_o || @portraitcoffee

To join the upcoming Beauty & Resistance Cohort, head to ChasingJustice.com/cohorts/ to register. The cohort will meet monthly for six virtual sessions to engage topics such as prophetic imagination, the formation journey, worship design, praise and protest, and decolonizing worship, and will culminate in a four-day, in-person retreat where participants will be invited to encounter God and worship through original creative expression in whatever mediums they choose. Registration closes June 31st.

In this conversation, Katie and Gabe explore the definition and purpose of the church and if it’s “worth it” and the importance of finding spaces where one can be themselves and grow spiritually. They touch on the relationship between community and healing, that some church spaces are explicitly harmful, and the role of believers in serving and caring for one another wherever we find ourselves.

They also highlight the role church leaders have in creating supportive and nurturing environments for all their congregation. If you’ve found yourself in the in-between space of wondering what church community could or should look like for you, regardless of what season you find yourself in, we invite you to join our conversation about is church worth it?

Hosts: Katie Nguyen Palomares & Gabriel Palomares

Engineer: Katie Nguyen Palomares

Designer: Josue Carballo-Huertas

Follow us on IG: @thebeautyinbetweenpod / @k.nguyen.palomares / @gaprap104

The Beauty In-Between podcast is part of the Chasing Justice Podcast Network. To support our podcast directly and the work of Chasing Justice, please join the Chasing Justice Patreon at patreon.com/chasingjustice. To find out more, visit chasingjustice.com.

Welcome to the Beauty In-Between!

In this episode, we introduce ourselves and share some of our family backgrounds, passions, and the vision behind 'The Beauty In-Between' podcast. We also talk about the importance of curiosity, community, and embracing the in-between spaces. We want this to be a space for honest conversation, exploring the nuances of different topics, and helping people feel heard and accepted.

Join us as we imagine a new way forward for the Church and build a community of collective flourishing for all.

Hosts: Katie Nguyen Palomares & Gabriel Palomares

Engineer: Katie Nguyen Palomares

Designer: Josue Carballo-Huertas

Follow us on IG: @thebeautyinbetweenpod / @k.nguyen.palomares / @gaprap104

The Beauty In-Between podcast is part of the Chasing Justice Podcast Network. To support our podcast directly and the work of Chasing Justice, please join the Chasing Justice Patreon at patreon.com/chasingjustice. To find out more, visit chasingjustice.com.