In this conversation, Dr. Shelley Sella discusses her book “Beyond Limits: Stories of Third-Trimester Abortion Care” and her experiences in providing third trimester abortion care. She emphasizes the importance of understanding the circumstances that lead individuals to seek such care, the emotional and psychological aspects involved, and the need for compassionate support. The discussion also touches on the legal implications surrounding abortion, the safety of the procedures, and the necessity for empathy and understanding in the healthcare system.

Key Takeaways:

• Third-trimester abortion care is often stigmatized and misunderstood.
• The emotional and spiritual aspects of care are integral to the process.
• Legal restrictions are increasing, making access to care more difficult.
• Support systems are crucial for patients undergoing these procedures.
• Abortion is far safer than continuing a pregnancy in many cases due to the high maternal mortality rate in the United States
• The stories of patients can help demystify and destigmatize the procedure.

Dr. Shelley Sella is a retired Board Certified Ob-Gyn and the first woman to openly provide third trimester abortion care in the United States. For 20 years Dr. Shelley Sella – an OB-GYN and the first woman to openly provide third-trimester abortion care in the United States – saw patients whose diverse backgrounds and circumstances led them to the same difficult decision: to end their pregnancies. Now, in her beautifully written and compassionate first book BEYOND LIMITS: Stories of Third-Trimester Abortion Care (June 3, 2025; Beacon Press; $27.95), Dr. Sella shares deeply intimate, profoundly human stories of this widely misunderstood experience. Combining candid memoir with expert account, Sella interweaves her patients’ stories with her own personal and professional journey (including her mentorship under Dr. George Tiller) to reveal why she dedicated her life to this work.

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Here are more resources related to today’s topic:.

• Purchase book at bookstore.org
• Remembering Dr. George Tiller
• Los Angeles Times piece from 2015 on Dr. Susan Robinson
• Information on midwifery from WHO
• Overturning of Roe v Wade from NPR
• Southwestern Women’s Options
• Website to share stories about abortion from the National Abortion Federation
• Article on the high maternal mortality rate in US
• The Turnaway Study that describes the mental health, physical health, and socioeconomic consequences of receiving an abortion compared to carrying an unwanted pregnancy to term

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In this conversation, we delve into the complexities surrounding intersex and transgender identities, focusing on medical ethics and the importance of patient autonomy. Our guest, Kaitlyn Brown, discusses their advocacy for the intersex community, emphasizing the importance of trauma-informed care in healthcare settings. We talk about the differences between intersex and transgender identities, the prevalence of intersex conditions, and the challenges faced by parents of intersex children. The discussion highlights the complexity of genetic definitions and the need for better understanding and support within the healthcare system. It highlights the ongoing legislative challenges that threaten the rights and healthcare access of these communities, while also emphasizing the need for advocacy and allyship.

Key Takeaways:

• Intersex conditions encompass a wide range of biological variations.
• Parents need support in navigating intersex diagnoses.
• Genetic definitions of intersex are complex and varied.
• Healthcare providers must approach intersex care with sensitivity.
• Surgical interventions for intersex individuals are controversial and complex.
• Patient autonomy is crucial in medical decisions regarding gender assignment.
• Legislation is increasingly targeting transgender and intersex communities.
• Inclusive conversations about sex and gender are essential in healthcare.
• Cisgender individuals can use their privilege to advocate for intersex and transgender rights.

Kaitlyn Brown is a certified genetic counselor from New Zealand who is endosex and identifies as a genderqueer femme, assigned female at birth. Currently a laboratory genetic counselor specializing in cell-free DNA prenatal screening, Kaitlyn has been an active advocate for the intersex community/ people with differences of sexual development and assisted in care management as a former pediatric genetic counselor and researcher. They have been involved with passing government initiatives to legislate awareness and understanding of differences of sex development for healthcare professionals and others who care for this community. Given the history of harmful practices performed on intersex and gender diverse people, Kaitlyn uses a trauma-informed lens to educate about sex development and incorporate both sex- and gender- diverse experiences and needs. They can be found on Bluesky as geneticsbtb.bsky.social

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Here are more resources related to today’s topic, genetic counselors.

• InterACT- Advocates for Intersex Youth
• Sambia culture of Papua New Guinea and “turnim-man”
• Trauma Informed Care
• Intersex Justice Project
• Strategy Lab for Intersex Movements (SLIM)
• InterConnect Support
• Tested podcast about sex testing in elite sports from NPR
• Book, Sex Itself by Sarah S Richardson

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We are featuring an episode from another podcast on Gene Pool Media, DNA Today. True crime dominates the podcasting world, but what about the genetic aspects behind these cases? In this episode of DNA Today, we dive into the pivotal role of DNA in forensic science with Dr. Henry Erlich, a pioneer in DNA analysis and a key figure in developing polymerase chain reaction (PCR) technology. His work has transformed the criminal justice system, from solving cases to overturning wrongful convictions.

Dr. Henry Erlich has authored over 450 publications and spent decades applying DNA analysis to criminal investigations, missing persons cases, and ancestry research. His lab performed the first DNA case in the US and, in 1988, the first DNA exoneration. Erlich was the Director of the Department of Human Genetics and Vice-President of Discovery Research for Roche Molecular Systems, Inc until 2013. He is currently a Senior Scientist at Benioff Children’s Hospital Oakland Research Institute.

After reading his book Genetic Reconstruction of the Past, I had countless questions about how PCR reshaped the justice system, its impact on exonerations, and the ethical implications of forensic DNA databases.

Trigger Warning: This episode contains discussions of murder and sexual assault, which may not be suitable for young listeners.

Key Takeaways:

• The development of PCR technology and its revolutionary impact on forensic genetics

• How PCR outperformed older methods like RFLP in criminal case investigations

• Pennsylvania vs. Pestinikas (1986), the first criminal case using DNA analysis

• Key forensic DNA terms explained: inclusion, match, exclusion, and random match probability

• The role of DNA evidence in exonerations and wrongful convictions

• How forensic labs analyze DNA from multiple individuals at crime scenes

• The establishment of the FBI’s National DNA Index System (NDIS) and who is included

• The ethical concerns surrounding partial DNA matches and familial searching

• How public DNA databases like GEDmatch helped identify the Golden State Killer

• Dr. Erlich’s insights into the O.J. Simpson case and its impact on public perception of forensic DNA

Resources and Links:

• Read Genetic Reconstruction of the Past by Dr. Henry Erlich
• Explore the National DNA Index System (NDIS) and CODIS
• The Innocence Project: Fighting wrongful convictions with DNA evidence
• GEDmatch and its role in forensic investigations

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DNA Today is hosted and produced by Kira Dineen, MS, LCGC, CG(ASCP)CM . Our Video Lead is Amanda Andreoli. Our Social Media Lead is Kajal Patel. Our Outreach Intern is Liv Davidson. And our logo Graphic Designer is Ashlyn Enokian, MS, CGC. The All Access DNA team includes: host, producer and editor Kate Wilson. The logo is designed by Designs by NKJ.

In this episode, Kate talks to Matt Hay about is book, “Soundtrack of Silence”. Matt opens up about his experience with neurofibromatosis type 2 (NF2), a genetic condition that led to profound hearing loss- and ultimately, the creation of his memoir, “Soundtrack of Silence: Love, Loss, and a Playlist for Life”. We explore his and his wife’s journey with IVF and preimplantation genetic testing, how they faced life-changing diagnoses together, and why his wife is the true hero of his story. Matt tells us how music shaped his life and how he continues to connect with it after hearing loss, the emotional impact of NF2, and the one song that defines his life today.

Matt Hay (IU MS’99, MBA’09, DrPH’26) has a long journey toward deafness and even longer journey toward learning to “hear” again with an experimental brainstem implant. Now an global in-demand keynote speaker, he first publicly shared his story on a National Public Radio (NPR) podcast titled Soundtrack of Silence. The intimate, funny and authentic peek at what it’s like to start a career, fall in love and build a life while battling a rare disease inspired actor Channing Tatum and Paramount Pictures to option the motion picture rights to Matt’s life story. Matt’s memoir Soundtrack of Silence was released in 2024 by St. Martin’s Press, an imprint of Macmillan. Publishers Weekly said Hay’s “moving memoir makes magic out of facing the music” and it immediately earned a spot as an Amazon Best Seller within the Disability Category.

When Matt isn’t adding tracks to the soundtrack of his life, he passionately supports the hearing loss community as a member of the Columbia University Genetic Counseling Advisory Board and previously as a consultant to the St. Joseph Institute for the Deaf. He proudly served as a Congressional lobbyist for neurofibromatosis (NF) research funding, the genetic disorder that caused his hearing loss, and has raised money for NF research by doing endurance events, including an Ironman Triathlon and the Boston Marathon. He didn’t win either one.

Matt currently serves the rare disease community as the US Director of Advocacy for a global biopharmaceutical company and is a doctoral candidate at the Indiana University School of Public Health with a focus on global health leadership. He lives in Westfield, Indiana, with his wife (whom he’s quick to point out is the hero of his story) and three children.

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Here are more resources related to today’s topic:

• Findageneticcounselor.org to search for a genetic counselor near you
• But Matt’s book on Bookshop.org HERE
• Info on NF2 from National Organization for Rare Disorders
• American Society for Reproductive Medicine

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In this conversation, Barry Tong discusses the complexities of cancer genetics, emphasizing the intersection of genetic factors and public health. He explains how cancer arises from both genetic predispositions and environmental influences, and the importance of personalized risk assessments. The discussion also highlights the role of family history in cancer risk, and the challenges faced by patients navigating a cancer diagnosis, and the need for accessible genetic services in underserved communities.

Key Takeaways:

• Public health aspects are crucial in understanding cancer.
• Misconceptions about cancer origins can hinder patient understanding.
• Personalized risk assessments are essential for effective cancer prevention.
• Polygenic risk scores are emerging tools for assessing cancer risk.
• Access to genetic services is crucial for underserved populations.

Barry Tong is a currently a genetic counselor supervisor at the UCSF Health Cancer Genetics and Prevention Program. Previously, Barry held several medical affairs and sales roles at Myriad Genetic Laboratories, and is a graduate of the University of Michigan Genetic Counseling and Public Health dual degree program. He is passionate about equitable access to genetics services, genetic counselor education and mentoring, and ensuring diverse and equitable entry into the genetic counseling profession.

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Here are more resources related to today’s topic:

• What is a polygenic risk score? From National Human Genome Research Institute
• Wisdom study with the goal to change the way breast cancer is detected and risk is reduced
• Find A Genetic Counselor from NSGC.org
• Multifactorial and Complex Disorders
• Episode 14- Colon Cancer: What is Lynch syndrome?
• Episode 12- Who has surgery to prevent colon cancer?
• Episode 7- Are leukemia and lymphoma hereditary?

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Note that this podcast is for entertainment and education and is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice. Please consult your physician with any questions you may have regarding your health.

The All Access DNA team includes: host, producer and editor Kate Wilson. The logo is designed by Designs by NKJ.

In this conversation, Kevin Alexander shares his personal journey living with PKU (phenylketonuria) and his passion for newborn screening advocacy. He discusses the importance of dietary therapy, the challenges of navigating insurance coverage for treatment, and the critical role of newborn screening in early detection. We discuss the recent policy changes enacted without warning by the current administration and how that impacts newborn screening practices. Kevin shares personal stories and experiences that highlight the need for advocacy and community involvement in maintaining and improving the newborn screening system.

Key Takeaways:

• PKU is an inborn error of metabolism that requires lifelong dietary therapy.
• Newborn screening is crucial for early detection of PKU to prevent brain damage.
• Newborn screening includes a simple blood test to evaluate for various conditions.
• The recommended uniform screening panel (RUSP) guides which diseases are screened.
• Recent policy changes threaten the inclusion of new conditions in newborn screening. The newborn screening system is crucial for public health.

Kevin Alexander is an adult living with PKU. He's also a filmmaker, and since 2012 has been traveling the world as a PKU, newborn screening, and rare disease advocate. He's a volunteer for the National PKU Alliance, an advocate with the Louisiana Metabolic Disorders Coalition, and a member of the International Society of Neonatal Screening.

You can find him online at:

IG: @kevinalexander_pku

FB: www.facebook.com/pkujournal

LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kevinalexander/

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Here are more resources related to today’s topic:

• My PKU Life | A Short Film about My PKU Experience
• Regaining Hope: My Journey to Rare Disease Advocacy | A Podcast Episode about the intersection of life, rare disease, and mental health
• Newborn Screening Is A Human Right | A blog article with Kevin’s thoughts on the termination of the Advisory Committee on Heritable Disorders in Newborns and Children
• The National PKU Alliance
• Baby’s First Test- information on newborn screening
• National Organization for Rare Disorders
• Original landing page for the Advisory Committee on Heritable Disorders in Newborns and Children
• The Recommended Uniform Screening Panel or RUSP
• Hunters Hope- non-profit for Krabbe and other leukodystrophies, as well as newborn screening starting by Jim and Jill Kelly
• For Katy: A Film About Newborn Screening
• For more information on rare disease, listen to episode 10- When is rare disease not so rare?

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