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Coauthors Frank Viola and George Barna support their thesis with compelling historical evidence in the first-ever book to document the full story of modern Christian church practices. Many Christians take for granted that their churchs practices are rooted in Scripture. Yet those practices look very different from those of the first-century church. The New Testament is not silent on how the early church freely expressed the reality of Christs indwelling in ways that rocked the first-century world.Times have changed.
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- De: Scott Hahn
- Narrado por: Brian Keeler
- Duración: 5 h y 12 m
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Scott Hahn has inspired millions of readers with his perceptive and unique view of Catholic theology and worship, becoming one of the most looked-to contemporary authorities in these areas. In Letter and Spirit, Hahn extends the message he began in The Lamb's Supper, offering far-reaching and profound insights into what the Bible teaches us about living the spiritual life.
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This could easily be a 5 star download
- De Travis en 01-07-07
De: Scott Hahn
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Decoding Nicea
- Constantine Changed Christianity and Christianity Changed the World
- De: Paul Pavao
- Narrado por: Alan Sisto
- Duración: 5 h y 32 m
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The Council of Nicea was not clerics in a dark and ornate hall. It was brawls in churchyards; it was emperors and governors fighting to save the empire; it was political intrigue as the governments of church and state blended into a volatile stew. It was the way a fringe group of peace-loving communal worshipers of a crucified Palestinian prophet conquered the Roman Empire.
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Who mixes fact with fiction?
- De 3allvalve en 12-28-17
De: Paul Pavao
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Reasons to Believe
- How to Understand, Defend, and Explain the Catholic Faith
- De: Scott Hahn
- Narrado por: Grover Gardner
- Duración: 6 h y 9 m
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In Reasons to Believe, Scott Hahn, a convert to Catholicism, explains the "how and why" of the Catholic faith - drawing from Scripture, his own struggles, and those of other converts, as well as from everyday life and even natural science. Hahn shows that reason and revelation, as well as nature and the supernatural, are not opposed to one another; rather, they offer complementary evidence that God exists. He is someone, and He has a personality, a personal style, that is discernable and knowable.
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A Catholic for convition and tradition
- De benigno en 05-29-12
De: Scott Hahn
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A History of Judaism
- De: Martin Goodman
- Narrado por: Derek Perkins
- Duración: 23 h y 59 m
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Judaism is one of the oldest religions in the world, and it has preserved its distinctive identity despite the extraordinarily diverse forms and beliefs it has embodied over the course of more than three millennia. A History of Judaism provides the first truly comprehensive look in one volume at how this great religion came to be, how it has evolved from one age to the next, and how its various strains, sects, and traditions have related to each other.
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Not easy to follow.
- De Eric en 03-12-19
De: Martin Goodman
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Reformations
- The Early Modern World, 1450-1650
- De: Carlos M. N. Eire
- Narrado por: David Drummond
- Duración: 39 h y 42 m
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Carlos Eire, popular professor and gifted writer, chronicles the 200-year era of the Renaissance and Reformation with particular attention to issues that persist as concerns in the present day. Eire connects the Protestant and Catholic Reformations in new and profound ways, and he demonstrates convincingly that this crucial turning point in history not only affected people long gone but continues to shape our world and define who we are today.
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Catholics don’t believe in “Works Righteousness”
- De Liam Cruz Kelly en 02-23-19
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The Faiths of the Founding Fathers
- De: David L. Holmes
- Narrado por: C. James Moore
- Duración: 6 h y 24 m
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In this compact audiobook, David L. Holmes offers a clear, concise and illuminating look at the spiritual beliefs of our founding fathers. He begins with an informative account of the religious culture of the late colonial era, surveying the religious groups in each colony. In particular, he sheds light on the various forms of deism that flourished in America, highlighting the profound influence this intellectual movement had on the founding generation.
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Compelling but deism oversold
- De Thomas Gordon en 06-23-19
De: David L. Holmes
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Ekklesia
- Rediscovering God's Instrument for Global Transformation
- De: Dr. Ed Silvoso
- Narrado por: Jon Gauger
- Duración: 9 h y 6 m
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In this vital, eye-opening book, best-selling author Ed Silvoso digs into Scripture, unearthing Jesus' true design for his church - his Ekklesia. He shows how the early church was a radical, countercultural force of people who transformed the hostile, pagan places in which they lived. Here Dr. Silvoso shows how we, in the midst of the social, economic, political, and moral chaos in our world today, can once again become the revolutionary, transformational, life-giving Ekklesia Jesus called us to be.
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big picture and inspiration
- De tbrinkley en 09-04-18
De: Dr. Ed Silvoso
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Medieval Wisdom for Modern Christians
- Finding Authentic Faith in a Forgotten Age with C.S. Lewis
- De: Chris R. Armstrong
- Narrado por: Jon Gauger
- Duración: 9 h y 51 m
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Many Christians today tend to view the story of medieval faith as a cautionary tale. Too often, they dismiss the Middle Ages as a period of corruption and decay in the church. They seem to assume that the church apostatized from true Christianity after it gained cultural influence in the time of Constantine, and that the faith was only later recovered by the 16th-century Reformers or even the 18th-century revivalists. As a result, the riches and wisdom of the medieval period have remained largely inaccessible to modern Protestants.
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A splendid introduction to Medieval faith from an Evangelical perspective
- De Daniel en 03-07-20
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Misquoting Jesus
- De: Bart D. Ehrman
- Narrado por: Richard M. Davidson
- Duración: 9 h y 5 m
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When world-class biblical scholar Bart Ehrman first began to study the texts of the Bible in their original languages he was startled to discover the multitude of mistakes and intentional alterations that had been made by earlier translators. In Misquoting Jesus, Ehrman tells the story behind the mistakes and changes that ancient scribes made to the New Testament and shows the great impact they had upon the Bible we use today.
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Understanding Manuscripts
- De KaHef en 11-22-06
De: Bart D. Ehrman
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The First Thousand Years
- A Global History of Christianity
- De: Robert Louis Wilken
- Narrado por: Bob Souer
- Duración: 17 h y 51 m
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Beginning with the life of Jesus, Robert Louis Wilken narrates the dramatic spread and development of Christianity over the first thousand years of its history. Moving through the formation of early institutions, practices, and beliefs to the transformations of the Roman world after the conversion of Constantine, he sheds new light on the subsequent stories of Christianity in the Latin West, the Byzantine and Slavic East, the Middle East, and Central Asia.
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Excellent Summary!
- De Gary Vandenbos en 09-13-21
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Reimagining Church
- De: Frank Viola
- Narrado por: Lloyd James
- Duración: 10 h y 23 m
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A revolution is moving through the body of Christ, challenging the spiritual status quo and redefining the very notion of corporate worship - a movement inspired by the divine design for holy fellowship. It's a fresh concept rooted in ancient history.
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Spend your time doing something else
- De Brian Davidson en 06-21-14
De: Frank Viola
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The Untold Story of the New Testament
- An Extraordinary Guide to Understanding the New Testament
- De: Frank Viola
- Narrado por: Michael Kramer
- Duración: 5 h y 2 m
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The Untold Story of the New Testament Church is a unique Bible handbook that weaves Acts and the Epistles together chronologically, creating one fluid story. This epic volume gives listeners a first-hand account of the New Testament drama that is riveting and enlightening. Get up-close and personal with apostles Paul, Peter, James and John and learn of their personal struggles. Learn what happened to all the apostles after the book of Acts was finished. Be ushered into the living, breathing atmosphere of the first century and uncover the hidden riches found in God’s Word.
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NOT what it claims to be
- De DPM en 07-14-10
De: Frank Viola
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Finding Organic Church
- De: Frank Viola
- Narrado por: Lloyd James
- Duración: 8 h y 19 m
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From the author of Reimagining Church comes an essential guide that provides practical, effective tools for finding vibrant Christian communities. Driven by a passion for the body of Christ, Frank Viola has written some of today's most authoritative and celebrated works on the growing home, organic, and missional church movements. Now Viola shares practical keys to a healthy and successful church plant.
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Don't Read! Unless you are hungry for more of God
- De Lone en 07-10-12
De: Frank Viola
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From Eternity to Here
- Rediscovering the Ageless Purpose of God
- De: Frank Viola
- Narrado por: Lloyd James
- Duración: 9 h y 3 m
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Deep within God's Word lies a wondrous story like no other. A drama that originated before time began. An epic saga that resonates with the heartbeat of God. A story that reveals nothing less than the meaning of life. From Eternity to Here presents three remarkable stories spanning from Genesis to Revelation. Each story traces a divine theme that is woven throughout Scripture. Seen together, they offer an extraordinary glimpse into God's highest passion.
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Sometimes we get a glimpse of Gods desires !
- De Jeromy en 03-08-11
De: Frank Viola
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Insurgence
- Reclaiming the Gospel of the Kingdom
- De: Frank Viola
- Narrado por: Tom Parks
- Duración: 10 h y 41 m
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Why does the allegiance that radical terrorists give to their false cause exceed the allegiance that most Christians today give to Jesus Christ? In Insurgence, best-selling author Frank Viola presents a radical proposal for Christians. Namely, that we have lost the explosive, earthshaking gospel of the kingdom that Jesus, Paul, and the other apostles preached. Viola argues that we've lost this dynamic, titanic, living gospel and exchanged it for a gospel of religious duty or permissiveness and "easy believism."
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Great Book.
- De matthew en 09-11-18
De: Frank Viola
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Un Pagan Christianity
- Exploring the Real Roots of Our Church Practices
- De: Brad Chase
- Narrado por: Kevin McAlister
- Duración: 2 h y 10 m
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The book is meant as a follow up to those who have already read or listened to the book Pagan Christianity by Frank Viola and George Barna. It was written to bring to light the biblical roots to Christianity that were omitted in Pagan Christianity and to help give another perspective on the Institutional church.
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Helps to Give a Balanced Perspective
- De Lucas en 01-29-22
De: Brad Chase
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Reimagining Church
- De: Frank Viola
- Narrado por: Lloyd James
- Duración: 10 h y 23 m
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A revolution is moving through the body of Christ, challenging the spiritual status quo and redefining the very notion of corporate worship - a movement inspired by the divine design for holy fellowship. It's a fresh concept rooted in ancient history.
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Spend your time doing something else
- De Brian Davidson en 06-21-14
De: Frank Viola
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The Untold Story of the New Testament
- An Extraordinary Guide to Understanding the New Testament
- De: Frank Viola
- Narrado por: Michael Kramer
- Duración: 5 h y 2 m
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The Untold Story of the New Testament Church is a unique Bible handbook that weaves Acts and the Epistles together chronologically, creating one fluid story. This epic volume gives listeners a first-hand account of the New Testament drama that is riveting and enlightening. Get up-close and personal with apostles Paul, Peter, James and John and learn of their personal struggles. Learn what happened to all the apostles after the book of Acts was finished. Be ushered into the living, breathing atmosphere of the first century and uncover the hidden riches found in God’s Word.
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NOT what it claims to be
- De DPM en 07-14-10
De: Frank Viola
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Finding Organic Church
- De: Frank Viola
- Narrado por: Lloyd James
- Duración: 8 h y 19 m
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From the author of Reimagining Church comes an essential guide that provides practical, effective tools for finding vibrant Christian communities. Driven by a passion for the body of Christ, Frank Viola has written some of today's most authoritative and celebrated works on the growing home, organic, and missional church movements. Now Viola shares practical keys to a healthy and successful church plant.
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Don't Read! Unless you are hungry for more of God
- De Lone en 07-10-12
De: Frank Viola
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From Eternity to Here
- Rediscovering the Ageless Purpose of God
- De: Frank Viola
- Narrado por: Lloyd James
- Duración: 9 h y 3 m
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Deep within God's Word lies a wondrous story like no other. A drama that originated before time began. An epic saga that resonates with the heartbeat of God. A story that reveals nothing less than the meaning of life. From Eternity to Here presents three remarkable stories spanning from Genesis to Revelation. Each story traces a divine theme that is woven throughout Scripture. Seen together, they offer an extraordinary glimpse into God's highest passion.
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Sometimes we get a glimpse of Gods desires !
- De Jeromy en 03-08-11
De: Frank Viola
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Insurgence
- Reclaiming the Gospel of the Kingdom
- De: Frank Viola
- Narrado por: Tom Parks
- Duración: 10 h y 41 m
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Why does the allegiance that radical terrorists give to their false cause exceed the allegiance that most Christians today give to Jesus Christ? In Insurgence, best-selling author Frank Viola presents a radical proposal for Christians. Namely, that we have lost the explosive, earthshaking gospel of the kingdom that Jesus, Paul, and the other apostles preached. Viola argues that we've lost this dynamic, titanic, living gospel and exchanged it for a gospel of religious duty or permissiveness and "easy believism."
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Great Book.
- De matthew en 09-11-18
De: Frank Viola
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Un Pagan Christianity
- Exploring the Real Roots of Our Church Practices
- De: Brad Chase
- Narrado por: Kevin McAlister
- Duración: 2 h y 10 m
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The book is meant as a follow up to those who have already read or listened to the book Pagan Christianity by Frank Viola and George Barna. It was written to bring to light the biblical roots to Christianity that were omitted in Pagan Christianity and to help give another perspective on the Institutional church.
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Helps to Give a Balanced Perspective
- De Lucas en 01-29-22
De: Brad Chase
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48 Laws of Spiritual Power
- Uncommon Wisdom for Greater Ministry Impact
- De: Frank Viola
- Narrado por: Jim Denison
- Duración: 6 h y 49 m
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In 48 Laws of Spiritual Power, bestselling author Frank Viola lays out the unchanging principles of tapping into God's power and releasing it to serve others. These laws are based on over thirty years of ministry experience—trench-tested in Frank's life and the lives of others who have spent decades in ministry. Though these laws may seem counterintuitive and uncommon, they will equip you to look for God's power in your ministry.
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A Powerful Book
- De Toni Imsen en 02-11-23
De: Frank Viola
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The Jesus Manifesto
- It's Time to Restore the Supremacy of Jesus Christ
- De: Leonard Sweet, Frank Viola
- Narrado por: Sean Runnette
- Duración: 5 h y 23 m
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What is Christianity? It is Christ. Nothing more, nothing less. Christianity is not an ideology and not a philosophy. Christianity is the Good News that beauty, truth, and goodness are found in a Person. And conversion? It's more than a change in direction; it's a change in connection.
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Excellent book
- De Peter C. en 01-06-18
De: Leonard Sweet, y otros
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ReGrace
- What the Shocking Beliefs of the Great Christians Can Teach Us Today
- De: Frank Viola
- Narrado por: Sean Runnette
- Duración: 4 h
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What if every Christian discovered that his or her favorite teacher in church history had blind spots and held to some false - and even shocking - views? Best-selling author Frank Viola argues that this simple awareness will soften Christians when they interact with each other in the face of theological disagreements.
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Jesus
- A Theography
- De: Leonard Sweet, Frank Viola
- Narrado por: Tom Parks
- Duración: 13 h y 44 m
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Introducing a new kind of Jesus biography: Transform the tired and familiar way you have read the Bible into an electrifying journey of rediscovering Christ. In this compelling work, authors Leonard Sweet and Frank Viola reclaim the entire Bible as a gripping narrative about Jesus Christ.
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Insightful and truthful
- De Ksenía en 10-24-21
De: Leonard Sweet, y otros
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Paganism for Beginners
- The Complete Guide to Nature-Based Spirituality for Every New Seeker
- De: Althaea Sebastiani
- Narrado por: Leslie Howard
- Duración: 4 h y 27 m
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Embrace a spiritual journey to commune with nature, rediscover wonder in the world, and reconnect with yourself. Paganism for Beginners is your guide to exploring the diverse magick of modern Paganism. The up-to-date handbook introduces you to a breadth of Pagan traditions and core beliefs - welcoming you to this inclusive movement with a myriad of ways to deepen your personal spirituality.
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Great for beginners!
- De Corrinne Vernick en 02-08-21
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Paganism
- An Introduction to Earth-Centered Religions
- De: Joyce Higginbotham, River Higginbotham
- Narrado por: Pam Ward
- Duración: 10 h y 5 m
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If you want to study Paganism in more detail, this book is the place to start. Based on a course in Paganism that the authors have taught for more than a decade, it is full of exercises, meditations, and discussion questions for group or individual study. This book presents the basic fundamentals of Paganism. It explores what Pagans are like; how the Pagan sacred year is arranged; what Pagans do in ritual; what magick is; and what Pagans believe about God, worship, human nature, and ethics.
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AMAZING detail and information....BUT
- De J. Ethier en 03-02-19
De: Joyce Higginbotham, y otros
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The Path of a Christian Witch
- De: Adelina St. Clair
- Narrado por: Xe Sands
- Duración: 4 h y 36 m
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Raised in the Catholic faith, yet strongly drawn to Paganism, Adelina St. Clair spent many years questioning and soul-searching before she found a way to blend aspects of Wicca and Christianity into a vibrant and loving belief system. Filled with personal anecdotes, this book tells the story of St. Clair's journey of self-discovery and revelation, from her initial fear and guilt to her ultimate sense of peace and joy. With warmth and heartfelt reverence, St. Clair discusses vital aspects of Witchcraft and Christianity, as well as the commonalities between the two.
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Awesome!! Very good for beginners.
- De Anonymous User en 09-19-20
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Pagans
- The End of Traditional Religion and the Rise of Christianity
- De: James J. O'Donnell
- Narrado por: David Drummond
- Duración: 7 h y 52 m
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Pagans explores the rise of Christianity from a surprising and unique viewpoint: that of the people who witnessed their ways of life destroyed by what seemed then a powerful religious cult. These "pagans" were actually pious Greeks, Romans, Syrians, and Gauls, who observed the traditions of their ancestors. To these devout polytheists, Christians who worshiped only one deity were immoral atheists who believed that a splash of water on the deathbed could erase a lifetime of sin.
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19th Century Scholarship
- De Marianne en 10-16-18
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The Day I Met Jesus
- The Revealing Diaries of Five Women from the Gospels
- De: Frank Viola, Mary DeMuth
- Narrado por: Amy Rubinate
- Duración: 4 h y 51 m
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Two thousand years ago, Jesus Christ met face to face with people just like you. Broken, imperfect, sometimes fearful, and without hope. The Day I Met Jesus is a beautifully crafted narrative that chronicles the remarkable encounters of five women in the Gospels who were desperate to find wholeness, security, and purpose. Like all of us, these women struggled with the regrets of their pasts, the stresses of their presents, and the worries of their tomorrows.
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Awesome!!
- De Jessie en 07-18-15
De: Frank Viola, y otros
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The First Thousand Years
- A Global History of Christianity
- De: Robert Louis Wilken
- Narrado por: Bob Souer
- Duración: 17 h y 51 m
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Beginning with the life of Jesus, Robert Louis Wilken narrates the dramatic spread and development of Christianity over the first thousand years of its history. Moving through the formation of early institutions, practices, and beliefs to the transformations of the Roman world after the conversion of Constantine, he sheds new light on the subsequent stories of Christianity in the Latin West, the Byzantine and Slavic East, the Middle East, and Central Asia.
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Excellent Summary!
- De Gary Vandenbos en 09-13-21
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God's Favorite Place on Earth
- De: Frank Viola
- Narrado por: Tom Parks
- Duración: 4 h y 17 m
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Christians face profound challenges today, including doubt, discouragement, fear, guilt, rejection, materialism, and spiritual apathy. God’s people are also seeking an answer to a piercing question: what does God want from me, exactly? In God’s Favorite Place on Earth, Frank Viola answers all of these challenges with seminal insight. Here is a brilliant retelling of Jesus’ many visits to the village of Bethany and the touching message that it holds for us today. Viola presents this beautifully crafted narrative from the viewpoint of Lazarus, who lived in Bethany with his two sisters, Martha and Mary.
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Fantastic! My Lord Jesus, welcome home!
- De RCJ en 06-23-15
De: Frank Viola
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Love Your God with All Your Mind
- The Role of Reason in the Life of the Soul
- De: J. P. Moreland
- Narrado por: Grover Gardner
- Duración: 7 h y 34 m
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In Love Your God with All Your Mind, J.P. Moreland presents a logical case for the role of the mind in spiritual transformation. He challenges us to develop a Christian mind and to use our intellect to further God's kingdom through evangelism, apologetics, worship, and vocation.This is an invaluable book aiding the concerned Christian in the battle for the Christian intellect.
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This Audio book is on old edition.
- De YAW en 01-22-19
De: J. P. Moreland
Lo que los oyentes dicen sobre Pagan Christianity
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- Dean C
- 01-25-11
it will wreck you
I can't count the number of times I have re-read this (or listened if you prefer) and Viola's other related works: Reimagining Church, From Eternity to Here, Finding Organic Church, The Untold Story of the New Testament Church, and Jesus Manifesto. Each one will challenge you to test what you have been doing in institutional religion in a way that will wreck you. I had to set it aside several times before I gained the strength and guidance of other believers around me to start making my move toward organic. We have a long way to go, and still have a lot of unanswered questions, but we are starting to see the fruit of our prayers.
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- ys3tsellers
- 05-15-18
An overdue acclaim
It is no wonder that most of us have never heard about this courageous and commendable work! This is the voice crying in the wilderness! But it is a threat evangelical Christian world would be threatened by it so no doubt it’s not in the church bookstores. Everything your intuition has hinted as one who loves Christ will be affirmed by this book.
It contains profound truth, profoundly stated. No sentence is wasted. Give it your full attention.
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- Candace
- 05-25-11
Read with reservation, and an open mind...
I am personally thrilled that things I've suspected, noticed and have felt about church for the longest time have been validated through this book. I really enjoyed the historical aspect of it, and the reasons we do everything. Personally, I feel like he got off on a tangent a bit with respect to tithing and baptism... but his points were very valid. I've listened to this book with an open mind, but I don't think I'm ready to run out and never go to church again, as my dad was afraid I'd do. My dad was also very threatened by a lot of the ideas in this book. However, I agree with a lot of what he says. I say to read with reservation because I always have my radar out when reading/listening to any book that professes to be Christian, and I think all Christians need to be wary. But I also kept an open mind to hear some things that might be disturbing. Now that I've read it, I have no idea what to do with the information I have. I am intrigued enough, though, to read some of his other books and am currently beginning re-imagining church.
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- Chris Crass
- 05-16-19
Totally Life Changing!
This message has the potential to be totally life changing! I only hope that I and others will actually be doers of the Word and not hearers only and thus be the church instead of just going to church.
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- Benny
- 08-27-22
highly recommend very biblical accurate
absolutely the best book on church history ever
I would recommend this book to every single believer
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- T.P.B.
- 11-07-18
Church History was great. His conclusions???
I am a 3rd generation pastor. My grandfather and father both were pastors of traditional churches, each dedicating over 60 years in their role as pastors, myself for over 30 years. I have a deep knowledge of behind the scenes of Christian churches, and I can say I've seen God do great things in traditional churches. While he makes many good points of the pagan origins of what churches do on Sunday, he failed to acknowledge that God uses broken people, broken organizations to do His will all throughout Biblical history. God has never waited for the perfect setup, or even the best method or setup to accomplish His will, but instead has always chosen to do His will in the chaos humanity creates for itself. While God has given clear direction for His people, and humanity has always failed to live up to that standard, it has never hindered God. While I am not disputing the accuracy of many of his criticisms, I personally believe more could be said of the good God has done with the traditional church. I have seen first hand what a pastor can do to help bring Christians closer to Christ. I've seen this over and over, repeated many times. To argue from the negative, that pastors as we know it in the traditional church don't exist in the Bible is a weak argument, arguing from the lack of something is always a poor method to prove a point. And I whole hardly disagree with him that pastors existence has done more harm then good, he clearly has never witnessed what I have, the great work God did through my father and grandfather, the lives changed and improved from their efforts. Are churches today in America messed up, yup, something needs to change. But to lay all the blame on the traditional church is very unscriptural, it misses the core of the Bibles teachings, that the heart of man is deceitful and above all things desperately wicked. It is the hearts of humanity that is the core of the problems with the Christian church today. While he tries to make it sound that the church as we know it is mostly to blame, he fails to bring everyone back to the real problem, hearts that wont hear God. Whether it's a house church filled with people who wont hear God or a traditional church, the problem is the same. Until people's hearts are turned towards God the house church movement will simply end up in the same place as the traditional church. In the end I felt this book simply repeats the same pattern I have heard from the traditional church. We have a better method, it's more scriptural, we understand what God wants better than you because we are closer to the original church of the apostolic times. He clearly should have ended his book stating that everyone who hears God's direction to serve Him should follow that leading, if it's a traditional church, praise God, serve God with all your heart there, if it's a house church praise God, serve God there, but in the end it is God who will do His good pleasure, regardless of the method. God's hands will never be tied regardless of the method. Quoting the Apostle Paul in Philippians 1:15 Some indeed preach Christ even from envy and strife, and some also from good will: 16 The former preach Christ from selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my chains; 17 but the latter out of love, knowing that I am appointed for the defense of the gospel. 18 What then? Only [that] in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is preached; and in this I rejoice, yes, and will rejoice.
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- Andy
- 04-02-12
A Must for everyone the hear !
Where does Pagan Christianity rank among all the audiobooks you’ve listened to so far?
Near the top.
What other book might you compare Pagan Christianity to and why?
Its in a class all by itself.
What do you think the narrator could have done better?
Less momotone and more inflection.
If you were to make a film of this book, what would be the tag line be?
What happens when one turns family into a business.
Any additional comments?
Great listen for all who seek to know the reason the church seems so disconnected from her roots.
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- morgan
- 03-02-20
Life changing for this "pastor" couple
We have been pastoring for 14 years and struggling with all the issues touched on in this book.
This book confirms so much of what we have just "felt" through the years.
We are at a very big, serious crossroads in our lives right now. deciding what to do from here.
We want to be real Christ followers. We want to rid ourselves of the dead pagan traditions.
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- RobbieandCrystal
- 04-28-15
This work gives voice to what we already know....
This work gives voice to what we already know to be true regarding organized church.
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- David L. McWilliams
- 11-03-16
Awesome book. I recommend this book for all!
This book is well worth the time to listen to if you have ever had your doubts about how today's "churches" are doing things.
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