• #42 AI and the Future of Journalism with Harriet Meyer
    Mar 19 2026

    Steve and Lou are joined by journalist, editor and AI trainer Harriet Meyer to unpack what AI is actually changing in newsrooms, PR teams and editorial workflows. From research and analysis to campaign planning, disclosure, trust and responsible use, Harriet shares where AI is genuinely useful, where it is mostly noise, and why human judgement still matters more than ever. If you're working in PR, media or content and trying to work out where AI fits into your day-to-day, this episode is a great place to start.

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    00:37 – What has actually changed in journalism?

    03:04 – Spotting AI early

    05:21 – Excitement, fear and scepticism

    09:17 – Where AI is genuinely useful right now

    12:18 – Tool overwhelm and where to start

    16:45 – Better use cases for agencies and teams

    23:34 – The biggest risks of AI misuse

    35:31 – Where humans still outperform AI

    Check out the full episode transcript here.

    About the Digital PR Podcast

    Hosted by our very own Heads of PR, Lou and Steve, we recorded our first episode of the Digital PR Podcast back in December 2022, and have had some fascinating conversations with movers and shakers from the PR industry in the UK and further afield, sharing their knowledge and experiences.

    To let us know about any topics you’d like us to cover or guests you’d like to see (maybe you’d like to be a guest yourself?) drop us a line at dprpodcast@propellernet.co.uk. If you’re really enjoying the show, make sure to rate the podcast 5 stars and leave us a review.

    The Digital PR Podcast is brought to you by Propellernet and sponsored by CoverageBook. You can also watch on YouTube as a video podcast.

    To check out our socials and other useful links click here.

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    42 mins
  • #41 How AI Is Changing the Journalist–PR Relationship with Rosie Taylor
    Feb 19 2026

    Lou and Steve are joined by freelance journalist Rosie Taylor to discuss how AI is reshaping the relationship between PRs and journalists. They explore the rise of AI-generated content, fake experts and increased verification pressures in newsrooms, alongside what this means for trust, pitching and media relations. Rosie shares what makes a pitch stand out, why exclusives and relevance matter, and how relationships are now built through strong stories rather than schmoozing. They look at responsible uses of AI in PR, the importance of audience-first storytelling, and why authenticity and human connection are becoming the industry’s strongest differentiators.

    00:00 The Evolving Relationship Between Journalists and PRs

    02:53 Navigating AI in Journalism

    12:07 Leveraging AI for Better Storytelling

    14:44The Future of Journalism and AI

    24:13The Challenges of Authenticity in Journalism

    29:00 Transparency in AI Usage for PR Professionals

    32:20 The Impact of Fake Experts on Journalism

    39:46 The Human Element in PR and Journalism

    Check out the full transcript here.

    About the Digital PR Podcast

    Hosted by our very own Heads of PR, Lou and Steve, we recorded our first episode of the Digital PR Podcast back in December 2022, and have had some fascinating conversations with movers and shakers from the PR industry in the UK and further afield, sharing their knowledge and experiences.

    To let us know about any topics you’d like us to cover or guests you’d like to see (maybe you’d like to be a guest yourself?) drop us a line at dprpodcast@propellernet.co.uk. If you’re really enjoying the show, make sure to rate the podcast 5 stars and leave us a review.

    The Digital PR Podcast is brought to you by Propellernet and sponsored by CoverageBook. You can also watch on YouTube as a video podcast.

    To check out our socials and other useful links click here.

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    43 mins
  • #40 Future-Proofing PR: The PESO Model & Structured Trust with Gini Dietrich
    Jan 22 2026

    In this episode of the Digital PR podcast, Louise Parker and Steve Baker are joined by Gini Dietrich, founder and CEO of Spin Sucks, to explore the future of comms in an AI-fuelled, fractured media landscape. They dive into the origins and evolution of the PESO model, and how it’s become a strategic operating system for modern marketing and comms teams. Gini shares how AI is changing everything from visibility to reputation management, and why structured trust is the next big concept comms professionals need to master. Together, they explore deepfakes, bot-driven outrage, and what it really takes to future-proof your brand in an age of misinformation.

    00:00 Introduction to Jeannie Dietrich and the PESO Model

    02:13 The Evolution of the PESO Model

    06:05 Integrating AI into the PESO Framework

    09:03 Creating Consistency Across Communication Channels

    12:46 Building Structured Trust in Brand Messaging

    16:37 Navigating Misinformation and AI Challenges

    22:17 Future-Proofing PR and Marketing Strategies

    Check out the full transcript here.

    About the Digital PR Podcast

    Hosted by our very own Heads of PR, Lou and Steve, we recorded our first episode of the Digital PR Podcast back in December 2022, and have had some fascinating conversations with movers and shakers from the PR industry in the UK and further afield, sharing their knowledge and experiences.

    To let us know about any topics you’d like us to cover or guests you’d like to see (maybe you’d like to be a guest yourself?) drop us a line at dprpodcast@propellernet.co.uk. If you’re really enjoying the show, make sure to rate the podcast 5 stars and leave us a review.

    The Digital PR Podcast is brought to you by Propellernet and sponsored by CoverageBook. You can also watch on YouTube as a video podcast.

    To check out our socials and other useful links click here.

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    39 mins
  • #39 Building and Selling a Digital PR Agency with Lisa Paasche
    Nov 20 2025

    In this episode of the Digital PR Podcast, Louise Parker and Steve Baker are joined by Lisa Paasche, mentor, advisor, and founder of Verve Search, for a conversation about building one of the most influential digital PR agencies, and what it’s really like to sell the business you built from scratch. Lisa reflects on the bold creative shifts that fuelled Verve’s success and shares what it takes to balance growth with integrity. Together, they explore the personal cost of leadership, why the post-sale reality didn’t match the dream and how Lisa reconnected with her purpose.

    00:00:00 – Intro & Lisa’s Legacy in Digital PR

    00:01:29 – A Crisis Year Sparks a Creative Pivot

    00:06:06 – Making Ideas Happen

    00:09:45 – Hiring for Grit, Not CVs

    00:14:20 – Creative Campaigns That Broke Through

    00:32:30 – Selling Verve: The M&A Reality

    00:42:50 – Burnout, Divorce & Redefining Success

    00:47:38 – Stand-Up, Self-Discovery & Life After Verve

    Check out the full transcript here.

    About the Digital PR Podcast

    Hosted by our very own Heads of PR, Lou and Steve, we recorded our first episode of the Digital PR Podcast back in December 2022, and have had some fascinating conversations with movers and shakers from the PR industry in the UK and further afield, sharing their knowledge and experiences.

    To let us know about any topics you’d like us to cover or guests you’d like to see (maybe you’d like to be a guest yourself?) drop us a line at dprpodcast@propellernet.co.uk. If you’re really enjoying the show, make sure to rate the podcast 5 stars and leave us a review.

    The Digital PR Podcast is brought to you by Propellernet and sponsored by CoverageBook. You can also watch on YouTube as a video podcast.

    To check out our socials and other useful links click here.

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    53 mins
  • #38 Is Link Building Dead? with Vince Nero
    Oct 23 2025

    Is traditional link building finally dead... or has it just had a rebrand? In this episode of the Digital PR Podcast, Louise Parker and Steve Baker are joined by Vince Nero, Director of Content Marketing at BuzzStream, to unpack the future of outreach in a world where coverage is harder to win, attribution is messier than ever and quality beats quantity every time. They explore the differences between US and UK outreach culture, what 'impact' looks like in 2025, and why it might be time to ditch your 100-link campaigns for a more surgical, brand-led approach. You’ll also hear how BuzzStream’s new List IQ tool is helping digital PRs create smarter, hyper-targeted media lists – and why Vince believes the future lies in owned audiences, niche content, and meaningful collaboration across SEO, PR and brand teams.

    00:00:36 – Blogger Outreach, Infographics & the Early Days of SEO

    00:06:02 – Why ‘Link Builder’ Has Become a Dirty Word

    00:13:54 – Owned Audiences & the Rise of LinkedIn for B2B PR

    00:19:03 – Fewer Links, Better Links: Is That Enough?

    00:32:21 – Quality Over Quantity: The Links That Actually Matter

    00:42:07 – Behind the Scenes at BuzzStream: List IQ & What’s Next

    Check out the full transcript here.

    About the Digital PR Podcast

    Hosted by our very own Heads of PR, Lou and Steve, we recorded our first episode of the Digital PR Podcast back in December 2022, and have had some fascinating conversations with movers and shakers from the PR industry in the UK and further afield, sharing their knowledge and experiences.

    To let us know about any topics you’d like us to cover or guests you’d like to see (maybe you’d like to be a guest yourself?) drop us a line at dprpodcast@propellernet.co.uk. If you’re really enjoying the show, make sure to rate the podcast 5 stars and leave us a review.

    The Digital PR Podcast is brought to you by Propellernet and sponsored by CoverageBook. You can also watch on YouTube as a video podcast.

    To check out our socials and other useful links click here.

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    45 mins
  • #37 Why AI Is Failing the Creative Industry with Joe Goulcher
    Sep 25 2025

    AI is reshaping the creative industry – but is it helping or harming the work? In this episode of the Digital PR Podcast, Louise Parker and Steve Baker speak to Creative Director Joe Goulcher, known for his outspoken takes on AI, ethics and originality. Joe shares why he refuses to use generative AI in his work, how leading brands are pushing back against the hype, and why consent, craft and credibility still matter. Together, they explore the ethical grey areas of AI-generated content, the environmental cost of machine-made creativity, and how Joe is building an honest, human voice in an industry obsessed with speed and scale.

    00:07:50 – What AI Really Is (and Isn’t): Joe explains the difference between true artificial intelligence and the large language models often mislabelled as AI.

    00:10:45 – The Trouble with Generative Tools: From copyright theft to misinformation, Joe lays out the ethical and practical risks of using generative AI in creative work.

    00:14:30 – Why Big Brands Are Saying No: Joe reveals how companies are actively banning AI in their pitch and production processes.

    00:29:15 – Craft Still Matters: Joe argues that speed and scale are being prioritised over quality, and why the work often suffers as a result.

    00:31:20 – Building a Voice on LinkedIn: How Joe built an engaged audience, and why writing like you speak is the secret.

    00:34:40 – Toxic Hustle Culture Isn’t a Badge of Honour: Joe pushes back on the glorification of burnout and late nights in agency life, and what we should be praising instead.

    00:40:00 – Advice for the Next Generation: Joe shares advice to creatives starting out today.

    Check out the full transcript here.

    About the Digital PR Podcast

    Hosted by our very own Heads of PR, Lou and Steve, we recorded our first episode of the Digital PR Podcast back in December 2022, and have had some fascinating conversations with movers and shakers from the PR industry in the UK and further afield, sharing their knowledge and experiences.

    To let us know about any topics you’d like us to cover or guests you’d like to see (maybe you’d like to be a guest yourself?) drop us a line at dprpodcast@propellernet.co.uk. If you’re really enjoying the show, make sure to rate the podcast 5 stars and leave us a review.

    The Digital PR Podcast is brought to you by Propellernet and sponsored by CoverageBook. You can also watch on YouTube as a video podcast.

    To check out our socials and other useful links click here.

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    50 mins
  • #36 How AI is Changing Journalism: PR, Ethics & Fake Experts with Rob Waugh
    Aug 28 2025

    AI is being used to create fake experts and manipulate media – and it’s changing journalism forever. In this episode of the Digital PR Podcast, Louise Parker and Steve Baker speak to journalist Rob Waugh, whose investigations have exposed how AI tools are being used to create fake personas, fake commentary and fake credibility. Rob reveals how he uncovered these stories, what’s driving the rise in AI fakery and why it’s a growing threat to trust in media. Together, they explore the line between smart SEO and unethical manipulation, the role of PR in keeping journalism honest and what the future holds for expert commentary.

    00:04:52 – The SEO Incentive Behind AI Fakery We dive into how (and why) some brands and agencies are creating fake personas to gain backlinks, mentions and E-E-A-T signals.

    00:10:25 – Where the Ethical Line Gets Crossed Rob discusses the real-world consequences of AI-generated quotes and why trust matters.

    00:13:33 – How Newsrooms Are Responding With limited resources and mounting pressure, journalists are under strain. Rob reveals how publishers are introducing verification systems to tackle the problem.

    00:29:48 – How to Rebuild Trust Between PRs and Journalists From being honest about sign-off processes to meeting in person, Rob outlines what helps a PR become a trusted source and what kills that trust instantly.

    00:42:12 – Google AI Mode & the Publishing Apocalypse We discuss how Google's shift to AI answers is already slashing publisher traffic and why media businesses are bracing for impact.

    00:56:00 – Final Thoughts & What’s Next Rob hints at upcoming stories, reflects on the erosion of newsroom resources, and shares where to follow his work (and send anonymous tips).

    Check out the full transcript here.

    About the Digital PR Podcast

    Hosted by our very own Heads of PR, Lou and Steve, we recorded our first episode of the Digital PR Podcast back in December 2022, and have had some fascinating conversations with movers and shakers from the PR industry in the UK and further afield, sharing their knowledge and experiences.

    To let us know about any topics you’d like us to cover or guests you’d like to see (maybe you’d like to be a guest yourself?) drop us a line at dprpodcast@propellernet.co.uk. If you’re really enjoying the show, make sure to rate the podcast 5 stars and leave us a review.

    The Digital PR Podcast is brought to you by Propellernet and sponsored by CoverageBook. You can also watch on YouTube as a video podcast.

    To check out our socials and other useful links click here.

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    38 mins
  • #35 Using HARO To Navigate The Expert Economy with Brett Farmiloe
    Jul 31 2025

    In this episode of the Digital PR Podcast, Louise Parker and Stephen Baker sit down with Brett Farmiloe, Founder of Featured and current leader of HARO (Help a Reporter Out). Together, they unpack the evolving landscape of expert commentary and media outreach, exploring how to stand out in a world increasingly cluttered by AI-generated spam. Brett shares practical insights into what makes a pitch truly land: being helpful, authentic, relevant, and timely. He also calls out the pitfalls of the scattergun PR approach, where mass pitching often comes at the cost of relevance and credibility. If you're looking to elevate your expert outreach and stay ahead of the curve in the AI era, this episode is packed with valuable takeaways.

    00:01:15 - What Makes a Great Pitch? Brett outlines the key elements of an effective pitch, emphasising the importance of quality over quantity.

    00:06:43 - Navigating AI in Journalism The discussion on the impact of AI on journalism and the challenges it presents, including the need for transparency and verification of sources in the age of AI-generated content.

    00:08:24 - How to Use HARO Effectively Brett explains how HARO operates, detailing the process for journalists and experts to connect through the platform, and the importance of timely responses.

    00:12:06 - Future of the Expert Economy Brett expresses optimism about the expert economy's growth, highlighting the increasing demand for genuine human insights in a landscape dominated by AI.

    00:24:01 - The Role of PR and SEO in Expert Commentary The conversation explores the differences between PR and SEO approaches to expert commentary, discussing the importance of authenticity and the potential for abuse in both fields.

    00:35:36 - Final Thoughts and Advice for PR Professionals Brett offers practical advice for PR professionals on how to elicit engaging commentary from clients, emphasising the value of collaboration and creativity in the process.

    Check out the full transcript here.

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    About the Digital PR Podcast

    Hosted by our very own Heads of PR, Lou and Steve, we recorded our first episode of the Digital PR Podcast back in December 2022, and have had some fascinating conversations with movers and shakers from the PR industry in the UK and further afield, sharing their knowledge and experiences.

    To let us know about any topics you’d like us to cover or guests you’d like to see (maybe you’d like to be a guest yourself?) drop us a line at dprpodcast@propellernet.co.uk. If you’re really enjoying the show, make sure to rate the podcast 5 stars and leave us a review.

    The Digital PR Podcast is brought to you by Propellernet and sponsored by CoverageBook. You can also watch on YouTube as a video podcast.

    To check out our socials and other useful links click here.

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    42 mins