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In the Fall of 1857, some 120 California-bound emigrants were killed in lonely Mountain Meadows in southern Utah; only 18 young children were spared. The men on the ground after the bloody deed took an oath that they would never mention the event again, either in public or in private. The leaders of the Mormon church also counseled silence. The first report, soon after the massacre, described it as an Indian onslaught at which a few white men were present, only one of whom, John D. Lee, was actually named.
With admirable scholarship, Mrs. Brooks has traced the background of conflict, analyzed the emotional climate at the time, pointed up the social and military organization in Utah, and revealed the forces which culminated in the great tragedy at Mountain Meadows. The result is a near-classic treatment which neither smears nor clears the participants as individuals. It portrays an atmosphere of war hysteria, whipped up by recitals of past persecutions and the vision of an approaching "army" coming to drive the Mormons from their homes.
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- Darwin8u
- 08-15-16
Truth suppressed is its own kind of a lie.
"I owe it to myself and to my readers to tell all the truth, for truth suppressed is its own kind of a lie.”
-- Juanita Brooks in a letter to Justice Jesse Udall, 1961
"It seems to be a clear case of how a group, stirred and angered by reports perhaps only half true, frenzied by mistaken zeal to protect their homes and families and to defend their church , were led to do what none singly would have done under normal circumstances, and for which none singly can be held responsible."
-- Juanita Brooks, The Mountain Meadows Massacre
My father is an interesting case. His own father is descended from a group of anti-Mormon Methodists from Northern Arkansas and Southern Missouri. This is a geography that since the mid-1800s has never been very kind to the Mormons. His mother, however, came from a long-line of Mormons, stretching back to the Kirkland Temple days and before. Through my paternal grandmother, my 5th great-grandmother (Abigail Woolsey), who was the mother of both my 4th great-grandfather (Richard Woolsey), was also the polygamist wife of John D. Lee. It doesn't stop there. So, John D. Lee was married to my 5th great-grandmother (Abigail), and her two daughters (Agatha, John D. Lee's first wife) and (Rachael, John D. Lee's third wife). Confused? That's OK.
Basically, it means I'm not genetically kin to John D. Lee, but my 5th great-grandmother was married to him (but had no kids with him), and so were her two daughters (who did have a bunch of kids with him). Or said differently, my 4th great-grandfather's mother and two sisters were ALL married to John D. Lee. Why am I spending a paragraph describing some esoteric Mormon polygamist genealogy of a guy named John D. Lee? Well, because as my father would put it, prior to the Oklahoma City Bombing, John D. Lee and some other Mormons and Indians in Southern Utah were responsible for the largest act of domestic terror on American soil.
Juanita Brooks' book, 'The Mountain Meadows Massacre' is an early historical attempt to explain why this horrible event happened. There were a lot of things that happened that led to this horrible end. The Mormon War was just starting and Buchanan had sent an army to quash the Mormon Rebellion. Mormon's having fled Missouri because of persecution were wound up, thinking they were going to be set upon by the US Government. The Mormon Reformation was underway and there existed a certain level of religous hysteria and paranoia that was stoked at the church/state-level by Brigham Young and his apostles and at the local level by people who remembered the martyrdom of Joseph Smith and the persecutions in Illinois, Ohio, and Missouri. These things and more, prepared the ground and ignited a blaze that led to the death of 120 California-bound emigrants at Mountain Meadows in southern Utah. Only 18 young children were spared.
Juanita Brooks, despite a lot of opposition in the Church set out to tell this story using primary sources (the diaries and letters of those who participated). The story is chilling and is even more dark because these are almost directly MY people. It reminds you that given the right circumstances nice people can do wicked things, the abused can become abusers, and that given the opportunity those in power will always find a scapegoat. In this case, the scapegoat was my 5th great-grandmother's 2nd husband (and double son-in-law). A powerful book. It is a bit dated, so I will next need to read Massacre at Mountain Meadows and Blood of the Prophets: Brigham Young and the Massacre at Mountain Meadows to see what they have added and how the story has progressed these last couple decades. But we can't under-appreciate the influence that Juanita Brooks had on Mormon History. Her efforts at openness with LDS History are still relevant today. For a religion whose history is practically its doctrine, this is no small thing.
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- Nikki
- 11-25-19
It's SO slow. Kind of torture
Terrible pace and narration. This is actually an interesting historical story but you wouldn't know it by this telling. Read Under The Banner of Heaven instead.
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- Gwen Osmond
- 08-03-18
Mountain Meadows FINALLY SETTLED!
Juanita Brooks is clearly the most objective historian of this historical horror. The narrator uses correct tonality and emphasis to convey the intent of the author BUT needs a Primer in common Mormon pronunciations.
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- Small Town Life
- 07-04-17
not correlated or filter a straightforward View
this is a very brave work performed b8y Juanita Brooks at a time when not only the subject was frowned upon but being authored by a woman was an extremely courageous and needed action my hat goes off to her for dealing with such a difficult subject while being a devoted member of the Mormon church knowing to a degree the consequences of her decision to research and publish such a book all parties involved should be eternally grateful for her efforts
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- Amazon Customer
- 08-11-16
Brooks doesn't disappoint
what a wonderfully complete telling of a horrible indecent.
I'm related to Lee and I truly appreciate how the material was handle. magnificent narrator
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- msappington
- 08-15-22
Lives up to its reputation
What a fascinating book. Showing the what, why and timeline of such a horrible event. It gives the background of the Massacre and I feel gives a very open minded investigation into the event. Juanita gives a very balanced view of the event and Events leading to it and after it. It’s well worth reading.
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- Jim Johnson
- 06-04-22
The classic groundbreaking book on the MMM
Even though there are more modern and comprehensive books on the subject, there is still a lot of value in this version. I would definitely recommend including this book in your reading list if you really want to understand the massacre. in the other books, there is commentary about this one and will Bagley for example is very clear that his book is written more as an extension of this one, not a revision.
if you are only going to read one, will Bagley's blood of the prophets was the best one. it includes a lot of important context of Mormon history that are very useful for understanding the contemporary context. it is also written in the best storytelling style so has a better entertainment value. it hooked me really well and is one of the best books that I have read.
I do however recommend reading Ronald Walker and Richard turley's massacre at mountain Meadows because it adds a great amount of detail and includes sources that were only available to Mormons.
importantly to note, the books do not all agree with the conclusions. they are mostly the same regarding statements of facts, but when it comes to speculation (which it must to some extent because we don't have enough evidence) will Bagley concludes that Brigham Young ordered the massacre, while Brooks and Walker and turley conclude that Brigham could not have ordered it, but was accessory after the fact and probably knew the story pretty early on. as the question about whether Brigham Young ordered the massacre is a major point, it is absolutely worth getting the different perspectives.
suggested reading order:
1. Blood of the Prophets by Will Bagley
2. The mountain Meadows massacre by Juanita Brooks
3. the massacre at mountain Meadows by Ronald Walker, and Richard turley
after that if you still want to learn more, Juanita Brooks wrote a biography on John d Lee that is enlightening. there is also a biography about Bishop Philip klingensmith that is very interesting. these are not available as audiobooks, but you can get them in dead tree or Kindle. I have heard that the Kindle has passable text to speech that can turn it into an audiobook of sorts, but I find Kindle to be such a restrictive format that I don't do it. only certain kindle devices are capable of the text to speech, which I find very frustrating. if there wasn't DRM in place you could use any text to speech software, but Amazon aggressively removes that option from its customers, which I find frustrating and distasteful, and don't want to support it.
overall I really enjoyed Juanita Brooks version. it was very enlightening and the things that she chose to focus on are very relevant. while Brooks was a believing Mormon, this book is the work of a historian. during the time in which she published this, it must have taken an enormous amount of bravery. she fully expected to be facing a disciplinary council and possibly excommunication for what she put in this book. however her dedication to the cause of truth is most important. in the end she was not disciplined, and I believe a big reason for that is that her history is unassailable and thorough, and extremely fair. she is a tremendously gifted writer and historian, and I wish that there were more of her books available on audible, especially her biography of John d Lee. highly recommend
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- barbara
- 04-11-22
Not worth it
Horrible. Tries to justify the massacre. Start with Mormon propaganda. If I could have given it a negative one I would have
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- Amazon Customer
- 03-05-22
very well researched. good listen.
more research has gone into this book than, it would seeem, the churches official stance found in the book Saints 2. worth the listen for a topic that deserves additional investigation from those looking into the situation!
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- Doug5
- 12-10-21
While obvious bias exists….
While obvious bias exists this is a good and thoughtfully researched document. I’m impressed that this woman was able to hold onto her faith in her the LDS church after the conclusions that she ends with. One of the least known historical events of the west and one we really should know more about! Would like to read more on blood atonement and the truth of Young’s tenure!
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On September 11, 1857, a band of Mormon militia, under a flag of truce, lured unarmed members of a party of emigrants from their fortified encampment and, with their Paiute allies, killed them. More than 120 men, women, and children perished in the slaughter.
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Slow to get started - not fully balanced.
- By Chris on 02-28-10
By: Ronald W Walker, and others
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Joseph Smith
- Rough Stone Rolling
- By: Richard Lyman Bushman
- Narrated by: James Anderson Foster
- Length: 28 hrs and 52 mins
- Unabridged
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Founder of the largest indigenous Christian church in American history, Joseph Smith published the 584-page Book of Mormon when he was 23 and went on to organize a church, found cities, and attract thousands of followers before his violent death at age 38. Richard Bushman, an esteemed cultural historian and a practicing Mormon, moves beyond the popular stereotype of Smith as a colorful fraud to explore his personality, his relationships with others, and how he received revelations.
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Polarizing...in a great way
- By Brigham Larson on 01-24-18
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Brigham Young
- Pioneer Prophet
- By: John G. Turner
- Narrated by: Stephen Hoye
- Length: 19 hrs and 36 mins
- Unabridged
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Brigham Young was a rough-hewn craftsman from New York whose impoverished and obscure life was electrified by the Mormon faith. He trudged around the United States and England to gain converts for Mormonism, spoke in spiritual tongues, married more than 50 women, and eventually transformed a barren desert into his vision of the Kingdom of God. While previous accounts of his life have been distorted by hagiography or polemical exposé, John Turner provides a fully realized portrait of a colossal figure in American religion, politics, and westward expansion.
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The Lion of the Lord says "Mind Your Own Business"
- By Darwin8u on 08-26-13
By: John G. Turner
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Prophet's Prey
- My Seven-Year Investigation into Warren Jeffs and the Fundamentalist Church of Latter-Day Saints
- By: Sam Brower, Jon Krakauer
- Narrated by: Jonah Cummings
- Length: 12 hrs and 55 mins
- Unabridged
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Despite considerable press coverage and a lengthy trial, the full story of the Fundamentalist Church of Latter Day Saints has remained largely untold. Only one man can reveal the whole, astounding truth: Sam Brower, the private investigator who devoted years of his life to breaking open the secret practices of the FLDS and bringing Warren Jeffs and his inner circle to justice.
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Incredible Story of the FLDS
- By Steve on 11-11-11
By: Sam Brower, and others
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Kingdom of Nauvoo
- The Rise and Fall of a Religious Empire on the American Frontier
- By: Benjamin E. Park
- Narrated by: Bob Souer
- Length: 9 hrs and 20 mins
- Unabridged
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Compared to the Puritans, Mormons have rarely gotten their due, often treated as fringe cultists or marginalized polygamists unworthy of serious examination. In Kingdom of Nauvoo, Benjamin E. Park excavates the brief, tragic life of a lost Mormon city, demonstrating that the Mormons are essential to understanding American history writ large. Using newly accessible sources, Park re-creates the Mormons' 1839 flight from Missouri to Illinois.
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Can't get over "Nauvoo" pronunciation
- By Emily Christensen on 03-10-20
By: Benjamin E. Park
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Blood of the Prophets
- Brigham Young and the Massacre at Mountain Meadows
- By: Will Bagley
- Narrated by: Charles Henderson Norman
- Length: 20 hrs and 17 mins
- Unabridged
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The massacre at Mountain Meadows on September 11, 1857, was the single most violent attack on a wagon train in the 30-year history of the Oregon and California trails. Yet it has been all but forgotten. Will Bagley's Blood of the Prophets is an award-winning, riveting account of the attack on the Baker-Fancher wagon train by Mormons in the local militia and a few Paiute Indians.
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religion is dangerous
- By david dunn on 04-17-16
By: Will Bagley
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Massacre at Mountain Meadows
- By: Ronald W Walker, Richard E Turley, Glen M Leonard
- Narrated by: Bill Dewees
- Length: 10 hrs and 40 mins
- Unabridged
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On September 11, 1857, a band of Mormon militia, under a flag of truce, lured unarmed members of a party of emigrants from their fortified encampment and, with their Paiute allies, killed them. More than 120 men, women, and children perished in the slaughter.
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Slow to get started - not fully balanced.
- By Chris on 02-28-10
By: Ronald W Walker, and others
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Joseph Smith
- Rough Stone Rolling
- By: Richard Lyman Bushman
- Narrated by: James Anderson Foster
- Length: 28 hrs and 52 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall
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Performance
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Story
Founder of the largest indigenous Christian church in American history, Joseph Smith published the 584-page Book of Mormon when he was 23 and went on to organize a church, found cities, and attract thousands of followers before his violent death at age 38. Richard Bushman, an esteemed cultural historian and a practicing Mormon, moves beyond the popular stereotype of Smith as a colorful fraud to explore his personality, his relationships with others, and how he received revelations.
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Polarizing...in a great way
- By Brigham Larson on 01-24-18
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Brigham Young
- Pioneer Prophet
- By: John G. Turner
- Narrated by: Stephen Hoye
- Length: 19 hrs and 36 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall
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Performance
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Story
Brigham Young was a rough-hewn craftsman from New York whose impoverished and obscure life was electrified by the Mormon faith. He trudged around the United States and England to gain converts for Mormonism, spoke in spiritual tongues, married more than 50 women, and eventually transformed a barren desert into his vision of the Kingdom of God. While previous accounts of his life have been distorted by hagiography or polemical exposé, John Turner provides a fully realized portrait of a colossal figure in American religion, politics, and westward expansion.
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The Lion of the Lord says "Mind Your Own Business"
- By Darwin8u on 08-26-13
By: John G. Turner
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Prophet's Prey
- My Seven-Year Investigation into Warren Jeffs and the Fundamentalist Church of Latter-Day Saints
- By: Sam Brower, Jon Krakauer
- Narrated by: Jonah Cummings
- Length: 12 hrs and 55 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall
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Performance
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Story
Despite considerable press coverage and a lengthy trial, the full story of the Fundamentalist Church of Latter Day Saints has remained largely untold. Only one man can reveal the whole, astounding truth: Sam Brower, the private investigator who devoted years of his life to breaking open the secret practices of the FLDS and bringing Warren Jeffs and his inner circle to justice.
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Incredible Story of the FLDS
- By Steve on 11-11-11
By: Sam Brower, and others
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Kingdom of Nauvoo
- The Rise and Fall of a Religious Empire on the American Frontier
- By: Benjamin E. Park
- Narrated by: Bob Souer
- Length: 9 hrs and 20 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall
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Performance
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Story
Compared to the Puritans, Mormons have rarely gotten their due, often treated as fringe cultists or marginalized polygamists unworthy of serious examination. In Kingdom of Nauvoo, Benjamin E. Park excavates the brief, tragic life of a lost Mormon city, demonstrating that the Mormons are essential to understanding American history writ large. Using newly accessible sources, Park re-creates the Mormons' 1839 flight from Missouri to Illinois.
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Can't get over "Nauvoo" pronunciation
- By Emily Christensen on 03-10-20
By: Benjamin E. Park
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American Crucifixion
- The Murder of Joseph Smith and the Fate of the Mormon Church
- By: Alex Beam
- Narrated by: Michael Prichard
- Length: 10 hrs and 13 mins
- Unabridged
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On June 27, 1844, a mob stormed the jail in the dusty frontier town of Carthage, Illinois. Clamorous and angry, they were hunting down a man they saw as a grave threat to their otherwise quiet lives: The founding prophet of Mormonism, Joseph Smith. They wanted blood. At thirty-nine years old, Smith had already lived an outsized life. In addition to starting the Church of Latter-Day Saints and creating his own "Golden Bible" - the Book of Mormon - he had worked as a water-dowser and treasure hunter.
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All religious histories are not created equal
- By Kendra on 07-01-14
By: Alex Beam
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A House Full of Females
- Plural Marriage and Women's Rights in Early Mormonism, 1835-1870
- By: Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
- Narrated by: Susan Ericksen
- Length: 19 hrs and 52 mins
- Unabridged
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A stunning and sure to be controversial book that pieces together, through more than two dozen 19th-century diaries, letters, albums, minute books, and quilts left by first-generation Latter-day Saints, or Mormons, the never before told story of the earliest days of the women of Mormon "plural marriage", whose right to vote in the state of Utah was given to them by a Mormon-dominated legislature as an outgrowth of polygamy in 1870, 50 years ahead of the vote nationally ratified by Congress.
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Well-behaved women seldom write in diaries
- By Darwin8u on 01-13-17
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The Mormon People
- The Making of an American Faith
- By: Matthew Bowman
- Narrated by: Mark Deakins
- Length: 11 hrs and 31 mins
- Unabridged
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In 1830, a young seer and sometime treasure hunter named Joseph Smith began organizing adherents into a new religious community that would come to be called the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (and known informally as the Mormons). One of the nascent faith’s early initiates was a twenty-three-year-old Ohio farmer named Parley Pratt, the distant grandfather of Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney. In The Mormon People, religious historian Matthew Bowman peels back the curtain on more than 180 years of Mormon history and doctrine.
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Nice overview of the history of the LDS church.
- By Daniel on 02-07-12
By: Matthew Bowman
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David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism
- By: Gregory A. Prince, Wm. Robert Wright
- Narrated by: John Hopkinson
- Length: 24 hrs and 29 mins
- Unabridged
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Ordained as an apostle in 1906, David O. McKay served as president of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints from 1951 until his death in 1970. Under his leadership, the church experienced unparalleled growth - nearly tripling in total membership - and becoming a significant presence throughout the world. The first book to draw upon the David O. McKay Papers at the J. Willard Marriott Library at the University of Utah, David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism focuses primarily on the years of McKay's presidency.
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A Must Read for Faithful Members of the Church
- By Amy W. on 01-11-22
By: Gregory A. Prince, and others
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Brigham Young and the Expansion of the Mormon Faith
- The Oklahoma Western Biographies
- By: Thomas G. Alexander
- Narrated by: Charles Henderson Norman
- Length: 12 hrs and 12 mins
- Unabridged
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As president of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints and Utah’s first territorial governor, Brigham Young (1801-77) shaped a religion, a migration, and the American West. He led the Saints to Utah, guided the establishment of 350 settlements, and inspired the Mormons as they weathered unimaginable trials and hardships. In this new biography, historian Thomas G. Alexander draws on a lifetime of research to provide an evenhanded view of Young and his leadership.
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I am LDS and enjoyed the book
- By Oscar Abarca on 12-10-19
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Church of Lies
- By: Flora Jessop, Paul T. Brown
- Narrated by: Eve Bianco
- Length: 10 hrs and 36 mins
- Unabridged
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"I was one of 28 children born to my dad and his three wives. Indoctrinated to believe that the outside world was evil, and that I resided among the righteous, I was destined to marry a man chosen for me by the Prophet. I would then live in harmony with my sister-wives, bear many children, and obey and serve my future husband in this life and throughout eternity. But my innocence didn't last long." Flora goes on from there to tell the dramatic true story of how she ultimately escaped and has been rescuing women and children from the FLDS.
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So sad!
- By Granny of 9 on 08-02-20
By: Flora Jessop, and others