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Behind the Genes

Behind the Genes

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We are Genomics England and our vision is to create a world where everyone benefits from genomic healthcare. Introducing our refreshed podcast identity: Behind the Genes, previously known as The G Word. Join us every fortnight, where we cover everything from the latest in cutting-edge research to real-life stories from those affected by rare conditions and cancer. With thoughtful conversations, we take you behind the science. You can also tune in to our Genomics 101 explainer series which breaks down complex terms in under 10 minutes.Copyright 2021 All rights reserved. Ciencia Ciencias Biológicas Ciencias Sociales
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  • Georgia Chan: What is de-identified data?

    Georgia Chan: What is de-identified data?
    Mar 18 2026
    In this explainer episode, we’ve asked Georgia Chan, Senior Data Wrangler at Genomics England, to explain what de-identified data is. You can also find a series of short videos explaining some of the common terms you might encounter about genomics on our YouTube channel. If you’ve got any questions, or have any other topics you’d like us to explain, let us know on podcast@genomicsengland.co.uk. You can download the transcript or read it below. Florence: What do we mean by de-identified data? My name is Florence Cornish, and today I'm here with Georgia Chan. Georgia is Senior Data Wrangler here at Genomics England, which just means that she cleans up and adds structure to complicated data so that it becomes usable, and she is going to be telling us much more about the topic of de-identified data. Georgia, I think it would be a good place to start by talking about the National Genomic Research Library, which is the library that we at Genomics England store data in. So maybe you could explain more about that and what kind of data is in there. Georgia: Sure. Thanks Florence. So, we have genomic data. Genomic data is information that comes from a person's DNA. It helps us understand how the body works and why disease happens. This can include whole genome sequencing data, variants found in genes, small differences that make each of us unique, and information about how genes function or how they differ between people. Genomic data does not include a person's name or who they are. It's biological information, not identity, and it's used to understand health and disease. It's really important to note that by nature, it's nature, genomic information is incredibly rich. We all have millions of common genetic variants, but your whole genome is unique to you. So although genomic data alone can't directly identify you, it still counts as personal data under data protection. We also have clinical data. Clinical data provides real world context for the genomic data. It shows what's happening in someone's health. This can include diagnosis of a disease or a symptom, treatments that have been received, health outcomes over time, such as remission or progression, and this clinical data that help researchers see how genetic differences relate to symptoms, treatment response, and long-term outcomes. So, we have both of these kinds of data. Genomic data on its own can be hard to interpret, and clinical data on its own only tells part of the story. Together, they allow researchers to better understand how diseases develop, helps them discover new or more targeted treatments, and it helps them improve diagnosis, care, and outcomes. And this is why both types of this data are used together in the National Genomic Research Library. Florence: And so, both of these data types, both clinical and genomic, we say that they are de-identified. But what exactly does that mean? Georgia: Yes, good question. De-identified data means that information which directly identifies a person has been changed or removed from a health record before researchers can access it. And in practice, it means that researchers cannot see who the person is. The data cannot be used to contact individuals, and a person's identity is protected by design, which means that necessary safeguards are embedded into every stage of a service or process. So, researchers work with the data, but not with people's identities. Florence: Could you tell me a little bit more about why it's so important to de-identify data in this way? Georgia: Sure. De-identification creates a safe middle ground. It means that data can be used to improve healthcare whilst people's privacy and trust is respected. So, without de-identification, every new research question would require individual contact and large-scale, long-term research would be extremely difficult. With de-identification, we reduce the risk of someone being identified. We prevent inappropriate use of data, and we ensure that data is used only for approved research. And it's important to note also that it sits alongside a list of other safeguards, so that helps ensure data is used responsibly, such as secure Research Environment, strict access control, independent ethical and governance approvals. And all of those safeguards are provided in Genomics England's Research Environment. Florence: I think a common question that people might have, or a question that I definitely had when I first heard the term, is how de-identified data is different from anonymous data. Georgia: Yes, it is a good question. So, anonymised data cannot be linked back to an individual and is no longer considered personal data, whereas de-identified anonymised data, it has identified as hidden from researchers, but it can still be relinked by a trusted authorised organisation if needed. So, in healthcare research, ...
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  • Amanda Pichini, Dr Katie Snape, Bev Speight, and Dr Sarah Westbury: Can blood cancer be inherited?

    Amanda Pichini, Dr Katie Snape, Bev Speight, and Dr Sarah Westbury: Can blood cancer be inherited?
    Feb 25 2026
    Blood cancers are the fifth most common group of cancers in the UK. But for a small number of people, the condition may have an inherited genetic cause. In this episode of Behind the Genes, we explore the role of genetics in blood cancer, and what an inherited risk means for patients and their families. Our guests explain what blood cancer is, how inherited factors can increase risk, and why multidisciplinary teamwork is key to supporting families. They also look ahead to future advances, from whole genome sequencing to prevention trials. Our host Amanda Pichini, Clinical Director at Genomics England, is joined by: Dr Katie Snape, Principal Clinician at Genomics England and Consultant Cancer Geneticist Bev Speight, Principal Genetic CounsellorDr Sarah Westbury, Consultant Haematologist “By doing whole genome sequencing we get all of the information about all of the changes that might have happened, we know whether any are inherited, but importantly, we’re certain of the ones that have just occurred in the cancer cells and can help guide us with their treatment.” You can download the transcript or read it below. Amanda: Hello, and welcome to Behind the Genes. Sarah: When we think about blood cancers, it’s a whole range of different conditions and when you talk to patients who are affected with blood cancers or are living with them, their experiences are often really different from one another, depending in part on what kind of blood cancer they have. We also know that blood cancers affect not just the cell numbers but also the way that those cells function, and so the range of symptoms that people can get is really variable. Amanda: I am your host, Amanda Pichini, clinical director at Genomics England and genetic counsellor. Today I’ll be joined by Dr Katie Snape, principal clinician at Genomics England and a consultant cancer geneticist in London, Bev Speight, a principal genetic counsellor in Cambridge, and Dr Sarah Westbury, and haematologist from Bristol. They’ll be talking about blood cancers and the inherited factors that increase blood cancer risk. If you enjoy this episode, we’d love your support, so please subscribe, rate and share on your favourite podcast app. Let’s get started. Thanks to everyone for joining us today on this podcast, we’re delighted to have so many experts in the room to talk to us about blood cancer. I’d love to start with each of you introducing yourself and telling us and the listeners a little bit about your role, so, Sarah, could we start with you? Sarah: Sure. It’s great to be here. My name’s Sarah Westbury, and I’m a consultant haematologist who works down in Bristol. And my interest in this area is I’m a diagnostic haematologist so I work in the laboratories here in the hospitals, helping to make a diagnosis of blood cancer for people who are affected with these conditions. And I also look after patients in clinic who have different forms of blood cancer, but particularly looking after families who have an inherited predisposition to developing blood cancer. And in the other half of my job, I work as a researcher at the University of Bristol. And in that part of my job, I’m interested in understanding the genetic basis of how blood counts are controlled and some of the factors that lead to loss of control of those normal blood counts and how the bone marrow functions and works. Amanda: Thank you. That’s really interesting, we’ll be looking forward to hearing more about your experience. Bev, we’ll come to you next. Bev: Thank you. Hello everyone, I’m Bev Speight, I’m a genetic counsellor, and I work at Addenbrooke’s Hospital in Cambridge. I work with families with hereditary cancers in the clinical genetic service, and for the last six years or so have been focused on hereditary blood cancers. So we’ve been helping our haematologists across the region to do genetic tests and interpret the results, and then in my clinic seeing some of the onward referrals that come to clinical genetics after a hereditary cause for blood cancer is found. I’m also part of the Council for the UK Cancer Genetics Group. Amanda: Thank you, Bev. And Katie, over to you. Katie: Hello, I’m Katie Snape. I’m a genetics doctor and I am a specialist in inherited cancer. So we look after anyone who might have an increased chance of developing cancer in their lifetime due to genetic factors. I am the chair of the UK Cancer Genetics Group, so that’s a national organisation to try and improve the quality of care and care pathways for people with inherited cancer risk in the UK. And I have a special interest in inherited blood cancers through my work at King’s College Hospital, I work in the haematology medicine service there seeing individuals who might have or have been diagnosed as having an...
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  • Réka Novotta: What is informed consent?

    Réka Novotta: What is informed consent?
    Feb 11 2026
    In this explainer episode, we’ve asked Réka Novotta, Research Ethics Operations Manager at Genomics England, to explain what informed consent is. You can also find a series of short videos explaining some of the common terms you might encounter about genomics on our YouTube channel. If you’ve got any questions, or have any other topics you’d like us to explain, let us know on podcast@genomicsengland.co.uk. You can download the transcript or read it below. Florence: What do we mean by informed consent? My name is Florence Cornish, and today I'm here with Réka, who is Research Ethics Operations Manager here at Genomics England, and she's going to be telling us much more about it. I think it would first be helpful Réka, if you could explain the word consent. Réka: The broad definition of consent is that it's the voluntary agreement given by an individual to participate in a particular activity. We all probably give consent to a lot of different things each day without really realizing it. So, you go on to read the news in the morning, and the website asks for your consent to process cookies. You maybe go to a routine GP appointment later, and you stick your arm out for them to measure your blood pressure. Maybe you even go to a podcast and you give consent to a host to record your voice. So, these are all based on affirmative action made by you while taking into consideration the information that's available to you. The technical definition of consent often includes that it's freely given, meaning that you are not coerced. That it’s specific, meaning when you stick your arm out for your doctor, you're only agreeing to that part of the examination, and perhaps most importantly, that person needs to be adequately informed for the consent to be meaningful. Florence: So you gave lots of really interesting examples there. I think it would be good to understand what we mean by informed consent and where this distinction comes in. How does it differ? Réka: By informed consent, we mean that the person consenting has been provided with all relevant and necessary information about the activity, in a format that is accessible and understandable for them. And that latter part of the sentence is really important, because if you go to the doctor and the doctor speaks to you in French, if you speak French, then wonderful, you have all the information that you need. But if you don't, even though the information is technically there, you not understanding it makes it impossible for your consent to be informed. Similarly, if you think about maybe an older person who's not familiar with technology, if they see a QR code, they might not necessarily know what to do with it, even if it would technically lead to all of the information that they would ever want to know about Genomics England. Florence: So you mentioned Genomics England, obviously we both work for Genomics England, this is a Genomics 101 podcast. So what do we mean by informed consent in the context of genomics? Where does it come into play? Réka: So if we think about informed in a traditional research study, they test a drug, the treatment either works or it doesn't work, and there's analysis of that data, and that's sort of the end of the process. With genomics, there's a huge amount of information that gets generated and analysed, and the field itself is rapidly evolving. So we may not have an answer today, but we might do tomorrow, which puts our participants' data in the research resource that we manage in a really unique position. Because of that, it's even more important perhaps for this consent to be ongoing. Consent is often incorrectly considered a tick box exercise, where you receive information, you consider the information, you make a decision, and that's sort of it. Whereas for genomics, it's important that it is an ongoing conversation and it doesn't just stop at the signing of a form. We also employ what's called a broad consent model. Genomics England manages the National Genomic Research Library, which rather than being a single study, is a resource for a wide range of research uses. It allows us to gain permission via the informed consent conversations for the storage and the use of data and samples for upcoming studies that we don't yet know about. And this eliminates the need to reconsent each participant every time a researcher starts to use their data for a new research project, and in turn, and this also feeds back to the need for ongoing conversation, a fully informed consent is very hard to achieve at the time of consenting. Florence: So you mentioned the National Genomic Research Library, and we actually did a previous explainer podcast episode about this. So, if listeners would like to learn more about it, you can check out our previous Genomics 101 episode: What is ...
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