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Disunited Nations
- The Scramble for Power in an Ungoverned World
- Narrated by: Peter Zeihan, Roy Worley
- Length: 16 hrs and 8 mins
- Unabridged Audiobook
- Categories: History, Americas
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Publisher's Summary
Should we stop caring about fading regional powers like China, Russia, Germany, and Iran? Will the collapse of international cooperation push France, Turkey, Japan, and Saudi Arabia to the top of international concerns?
Most countries and companies are not prepared for the world Peter Zeihan says we’re already living in. For decades, America’s allies have depended on its might for their economic and physical security. But as a new age of American isolationism dawns, the results will surprise everyone.
In Disunited Nations, geopolitical strategist Peter Zeihan presents a series of counterintuitive arguments about the future of a world where trade agreements are coming apart and international institutions are losing their power. Germany will decline as the most powerful country in Europe, with France taking its place. Every country should prepare for the collapse of China, not North Korea. We are already seeing, as Zeihan predicts, a shift in outlook on the Middle East: it is no longer Iran that is the region’s most dangerous threat, but Saudi Arabia.
The world has gotten so accustomed to the “normal” of an American-dominated order that we have all forgotten the historical norm: several smaller, competing powers and economic systems throughout Europe and Asia. America isn’t the only nation stepping back from the international system. From Brazil to Great Britain to Russia, leaders are deciding that even if plenty of countries lose in the growing disunited chaos, their nations will benefit. The world isn’t falling apart - it’s being pushed apart. The countries and businesses prepared for this new every-country-for-itself ethic are those that will prevail; those shackled to the status quo will find themselves lost in the new world disorder.
Smart, interesting, and essential listening, Disunited Nations is a sure-to-be-controversial guidebook that analyzes the emerging shifts and resulting problems that will arise in the next two decades. We are entering a period of chaos, and no political or corporate leader can ignore Zeihan’s insights or his message if they want to survive and thrive in this uncertain new time.
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- N. R. Gawlak
- 05-09-20
All idiots except USA, according to author.
This garbage made some sense early on, but gradually shifted to uninhibited U.S cheerleading. Author suggests that no other nation is so smart, rich and well led. Believe that?, And I will sell you the Brooklyn bridge. Aiuthor presents his own sociopathic vision where the USA overwhelms the entire planet to get rich and dominates all other entities. His eagerly overoptimistic predictions leeaves out all important factors except economic greed. No recognition of our last decades of abysmal leadership and and that no one is concerned with anything but getting rich and starving the rest of the world and that we have access to anyone competent enough to even do that. A true alt right world view..
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- Howard
- 04-11-20
brilliant geopolitical primer re the future
I have authored 3 financial education books. I have read every book both Peter Zeihan and his colleague Dr George Friedman have written and this is my favorite since it focuses on the post 2020 instability that's going to manifest global relationships going forward as America sheds it's foreign policy and alliances based upon the strategic rationale of the WW2 era Bretton Woods agreement.
This is a book fundamentally disruptive to conventional geopolitical strategic wisdom and the doom and gloom of the China vs USA stand off. Once you get your head around the irrefutable and novel arguments and the data from which Peter's conclusions are based you inevitably adopt most of Peter's inescapable geopolitical conclusions in the post 2020 world.
Viewed from this perspective... outsized personalities not with standing ...the Trump presidency 's foreign policy reset is not an aberration but an inevitable, even overdue, US recalibration to 2020 realities from the previous 1945 realities.
Peter uses terse prose and keeps the listener enthralled with his quick main street focused analysis and the implications. The author provides the irrefutable data to make the logical conclusions as to why global instability will be a net asset to the United States and why most countries will face strong headwinds. After 7 decades of many US allies and trading partners relying on America's under appreciated generosity maintaining the global order at America's cost, the coming USA reset will be quite unpleasant for most countries that are net losers and maybe that's why they're in such denial.
One acquires a clear understanding of why America's free trade deals since World War II were so strongly biased in favor of the economic development of allies. It was a bribe to build an alliance to confront the Soviet Union at America's expense and it created the world as we know it in 2020. With the American electorate voting for a US president in 2016 whose appeal was repudiating those costly trade deals and alliances that have outlived their geopolitical relevance by 30 years... inevitable change from America is in the air.
30 years after the demise of the Soviet Union and the raison d'être of the American financed global order.... America's self-interest is being updated to post 2020 realities. It would appear that America's best days are ahead of her. For a few select allies like Canada, Mexico, the UK Japan and South Korea the USA foreign policy reset will not be destabilizing.
Peter clearly points out...China's success was in large part a result of the geopolitical strategy of the United States and keeping the sea lanes open compliments of the US Navy. Without these 2 US paid for realities China's future is far more bleak than you could believe possible.The 7 reasons why China, as we know it, is not sustainable is made crystal clear. Anyone doing their manufacturing, or dependent upon a supply chain based in China would be a fool not to heed the insight of this book re China's inevitable implosion.
The ultimate irony is that the government of the People's Republic of China has sold China on the myth that China's success is the result of the Chinese government's "wise and adroit stewardship of China's economy". This gets a jaw dropping reality check from the author.
As a 3X author (ProfitsUSA.com being my 3rd book) on a professional level I applaud the author's rare skill at taking complex, ethereal and technical geopolitical matters and making them accessible to Main Street.
To properly grasp the magnitude of the authors impact in writing this insightful and seminal book, it is best to think of Peter Zeihan as having an Elon Musk sized stature just in a different field.... geopolitics. High praise indeed but one I believe that is justified given the implication of millions of people acquiring the wisdom of Peter's GeoPolitical insights and adjusting their business plans accordingly.
I use that Elon analogy also because like Elon Musk, Peter does a better job at the arduous research and development than anyone else...albeit Elon does it for rockets and EV cars and Peter does it for geopolitical analysis. When the results of their arduous R&D process manifests itself in a new product ...in Peters case a book, as opposed to a Tesla car or SpaceX rocket, the competition is so far behind an oft used Elon Musk phrase ... "a difference of an order of magnitude" comes to mind. Read or listen to this book and you be the judge. This book rocks and it's visionary author as well.
This book should be required reading for the United States Senate, public policy experts, national journalists and defense analysts. This is not some academic book.... it is meant to be assimilated and acted on by business people that use the supply chain in China and Europe. Since a salient seminal insight shared by readers or listeners of this book with their friends, family and colleagues multiples its influence ...please take advantage of Audibles extremely generous offer to gift this book for free. After you read this book you'll be prompted to share it and it is free for anybody that has not used audible before.
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- Rich
- 03-04-20
Wow!
I've listened to all of Peter's books, and this one is absolutely on point. I listened during the COVID-19 shelter in place order in Southern California, and the themes in this book are playing out in real time on the news. Highly recommended!
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- UI
- 03-31-20
3 in 1: fantasy, fairy tale, wishful thinking
Dr. Peter Zeihan presents his wishful thinking wrapped in colorful fantasy story instead of an attempt to explain the root cause of current economic and financial imbalances accumulated over the years and ways to fix them. According to him all problems will miraculously resolve themselves while all adversaries and even allies are starving or perishing of old age. Somehow great American rivers, internal waterways and aircraft carriers are going to bring relief to budget deficits, national debt and need to bailout economy at taxpayers expense every 10 to 15 years. I would read his stories to kids as fairy tails, if not for his accounts of future mass starvation and bloody wars which border with thoughts of psychopath. As if these things have never happened under so-called (by P. Zeihan) American order. Complete waste of time and money. Unlike story, narration is impeccable.
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- Mohammad
- 03-18-20
Pro America Propaganda
This is not an academic book by any measure. There are so many things wrong here, suffice to say I could tell the level of the authors thinking after he dismissed AI as not being of any importance whatsoever. Save your audible credit, and read Noam Chomsky instead.
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- Farook Ahmed
- 07-18-20
An interesting read that ultimately lacks humility
This book would have been better described as “factors that may have more of an effect on the world’s geopolitical future than you might think.”
The book fails in my view because the author writes with a determinism that suggests omniscience - claiming total expertise on every region, subregion and nation of the world.
I can guarantee that the forecasts in this book will be inaccurate for two reasons:
1) Zeihan plays a logical bait and switch - conflating a *reduction* of US interest / involvement outside of the Western Hemisphere with complete and near-immediate abandonment. Similar errors in logic pervade nearly every chapter of the book: inflections in impulses do not mean those impulses will go all the way to their logical ends.
2) Zeihan fails to consider that factors that are not yet seen / easily predictable can have a radical impact on the trajectory of global affairs. Year-to-year, these may be few in number. But over time, they have a cumulative effect that can overwhelm the prevailing trends that Zeihan is predicting.
All that said, the author should be commended for trying to do something that is truly difficult, which is to identify important trends that will be interrelated - particularly the United States’ lack of enduring interests in the Middle East and China’s inability to project the power needed to secure all the resources it needs to power its economy.
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- Jean Le Lupi
- 07-18-20
The author lives in a world of his own.
He has all kind of predictions that dont make any sense... Lets see:
In the future Turkey, a non nuclear mini power will occupy russian lands starting with Crimeea naval base. Russia , the largest nuclear arsenal on earth, a country twice the size of Turkey by population and GDP will simply accept that. Right?
Then Turkey will also occupy Greece, a NATO member and an EU member. Those two entities would simply accept it. Right?
Not all info is worthless, but I dont get how he gets to these ideas...
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- Chidwick
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Peter Zeihan has capped off his trilogy with a fantastic volume in Disunited Nations. From the emotional prologue describing his ultimately transformative friendship with Matt to his on point descriptions of world history and current geopolitics, you'll be hooked. In addition, Roy Worley is fantastic with his narration providing a lively and engrossing candor to what many would consider dry fact and analysis. Worley, with all due respect to the Author, is the best narrator in Zeihan's trilogy.
A can't miss volume for all armchair historians, touching on the new players to come in the disorder predicted by Zeihan with the best narration in the trilogy. Disunited Nations is fantastic and I'm already looking forward to listening to it a second time
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- Chris
- 03-03-20
Engaging and well reasoned
If you’ve seen any of the hour long videos of Zeihan’s lectures, consider this one of those, but with 15 times the material, with time for all the points that he may have to gloss over on any given presentation.
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- paul
- 03-29-20
Zeihan really needs to go the extra mile
Content of this book was great and typical Zeihan. However, I realized why Absent was such a let down after listening to Disunited. For me it all comes back to how riveting Accidental was, my favorite book ever. Accidental was superb because Zeihan narrated it! Disunited was just boring without Zeihan's voice and inflections. Zeihan needs to put more effort into the delivery of his vision of future and read the damn book to his fan base. Hope you see this review Peter and redo Disunited. I'll buy it again. It should be noted this is my first ever review on Audible after over a dozen years.
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- Iain K
- 07-29-20
A wishful fantasy
The author’s obvious pride in the United States being a global superpower seems to blind him to some of the nuances of the new multipolar system. There is real naivety and downright ignorance regarding many of the world’s major powers. Many of the chapters took the reader on an extended exploration of 18th and 19th century geography rather than the future of world geopolitics. In summary, disappointing.
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- SwissTony
- 06-18-20
A fairy story for complacent americans
The only thing the author seems to get right is coming convulsions. Part of the book is almost quaintly 18th century documenting river flows and arable land like some junior colonialist functionary but the book stays in the 18th century comparing military might amongst nuclear armed states as if they were just as likely to fight as before. it has cultural and religious blindspots which may be a result of some things being unsayable in pc America but the biggest crime of all is failing to see the danger for the USA itself, racial tensions, crippling debt and other issues are unlikely to leave it unscathed and may break it into smaller pieces. Perhaps it will be the first empire to collapse and prosper but somehow I doubt it.
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- Amazon Customer
- 02-19-21
Absolute nonsense. Do not buy this book it’s an absolute travesty that someone published it!
This guy clearly lives in a cave and hasn’t read recently. It’s USA biased absolute horse shit! I’ve never read anything this bad. Do not buy this this book or audio.
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- Simon, Oxford
- 06-05-20
Fascinating and eye opening
A compelling and somewhat chilling view of the unsettled world we now live in. Well explained and argued with a global appreciation of the options facing the countries with the most influence on the world’s future. It makes one appreciate how good we have had over the last 50 years.
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- Paul Murphy
- 05-11-22
Another one of those 'great discoveries'
In a sentence...an education on what's coming.
Enjoyable and informative.
Quite a unique informal style.
I can't wait for the new book.
A must for those with even a cursory interest in the geopolitical world.
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- Anonymous User
- 04-15-22
Zeihan puts the 'geo' in 'geopolitics'
Great book to start your journey into understanding all the factors that come into play in the post-order multilateral world that's just across the horizon.
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- Daniel Garcia-Seddon
- 01-23-22
a good workout for your critical thinking skills
most of what he says is based on facts, but he massively exaggerates some facts and neglects others to arrive at a more dramatic conclusion.
with China for example, anyone can see that the next 20 years will be more challenging than the past 20, but that hardly means collapse is inevitable. after all Japan is facing many if the same challenges, low birth rates, rising debt, reliance on foreign food, energy, etc., but he predicts Japan will become the primary east Asian power.
even if China does collapse, as the USSR did, we cannot count it out for the rest of the century, as Zeihan does.
also the fact that he's clearly aware of climate change, he mentions it twice, but still dedicates a good chunk of the book to discussing each countries fossil fuel resources, and barely any time to discussing where resources needed for carbon neutral energy, uranium, cobalt, lithium etc. are.
furthermore his American exceptionalism comes across as naïve, and his habit of presenting personal speculation as fact comes across as arrogant.
also his jokes are mostly quite cringeworthy.
still, I found the chapters about france, Iran, and Argentina interesting, but even then I feel I can't trust what he's saying given everything else he seems to get wrong.
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- Juan Fandino
- 01-22-22
Very good, but...
It ia very good and interesting. Nonetheless it is over simplistic woth many countries. I still have and will recommend it as a useful overview.
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- Christine Saunders
- 11-23-21
absolutely fantastic. prophetic yet simple
such good insight into to not only the countries I knew very little about but how they are connected together.
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- Andrew
- 09-29-20
Superb
The fate of nations is written on their coastlines, rivers, soils, mountains and peoples.
The author has already cast the runes and scrutinised the entrails. Here you can read the history of the future.
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- Robin
- 06-13-21
Must listen for Geopolitical Nerds
Really good book and goes into deep on certain subjects and explain why certain nations are the way they are and where they will be headed in the next 15 years.
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- Anonymous User
- 05-02-20
Mind blowing!!
World looked like a big crazy place before reading Peter's 3 books. After reading them, and specially this last one "Disunited Nations", well It still is a big crazy place but at least it makes sense why it should be!!! and it couldn't be any other way!!!
Thanks Peter,
PS: About Peter's forecast on Crude Oil price in US vs Int'l Price!!! (WTI vs Brent Spread) it happens before the ink on this book dried!!!!!!!! I'm listening to this book as the prophecies are unravelling!!! I should see Peter's smiley face on the corner of every news screen!! How about that!!!!
(re. Crude Price Spread April 2020)
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- Simon Boxsell
- 05-06-22
A good first draft
There was a lot to like about this book. The author is a natural storyteller with a deep grasp of history. The historical accounts spanned the globe and covered a broad range of eras, providing an interesting and informative general intro to world history.
I didn’t enjoy the style of writing, nor the dramatic narration. It was too self aware, trying a little too hard to go for the laugh rather than focusing on beings factually accurate. It’s what you would expect to hear from a very bright college grad who has had a few drinks and is keen to impress his audience with his insights. However, by the end I got used to the style and even started to enjoy it.
My biggest criticism is the way the author made sweeping predictions with very little sense of humility. It was as if he actually believes that his predictions of the complex systems of geopolitics will adhere to the iron laws of geography, the basis of most of his predictions.
If you can look past these drawbacks, there is plenty that you’ll gain from sticking with it.
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- Anonymous User
- 04-05-22
Wow that was disappointing.
History retold as if America planned every action it took. Tried hard to like it.
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- Amazon Customer
- 12-15-21
Insightful
Another in-depth look at the world from a unique perspective. This has been as good as previous books written by Peter Zeihan.
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- BR
- 05-22-21
Terrifying glimpse of the future.
A little too rah rah America for this Australian, but he tells a compelling story nevertheless.
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- Icarus
- 12-18-20
Misses Zeihan's narration though well written
This is my second listen of Zeihan's after Accidental Superpower. For the most part, the book has sufficient originality so as not to be a mere copy of Accidental Superpower. I personally appreciated the chapters regarding countries other than the United States the most, especially Japan, Brazil, Saudi Arabia, and Argentina. I would definitely recommend you listen to this, even if you have listened to Zeihan's other work.
Having said that, here are my (albeit minor) gripes:
1. Zeihan's narration was thoroughly missed. I wish he narrated an acceptable portion of the book rather than just the preface. While Roy Worley has done an amazing job, I just wish Zeihan had gone the extra mile.
2. A more in-depth discussion around currencies, which would come to the fore especially in the disorder Zeihan has described, was rather omitted with just talk of the US Dollar reigning supreme because the US would remain rather unaffected. A discussion around the gold standard would have been appropriate as gold is the one currency most countries can get behind, especially with the Fed pursuing endless money printing and "stimulus". Talk of the gold standard has serious consequences for the US as it means less demand for the Dollar (others might as well use gold) and therefore less money that can be printed without creating run-off inflation. Having said that, the US maintains the largest gold reserves so they'd still do very well for themselves, though I would have appreciated Zeihan's take on this.
Overall, I definitely recommend listening to this book. However, I would suggest starting with Accidental Superpower to better establish yourself with the current Bretton Woods global order - setting-up the case for American isolationism - which is taken further in Disunited Nations.
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- Anonymous User
- 05-24-20
Riveting
Quite possibly the most interesting book I've had the pleasure of listening to in years. Highly recommended for anyone curious about geopolitics and the future of the world.