Civilized to Death

The Price of Progress
Narrated by: Christopher Ryan
Length: 9 hrs and 20 mins
Categories: History, World
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The New York Times best-selling coauthor of Sex at Dawn explores the ways in which "progress" has perverted the way we live: how we eat, learn, feel, mate, parent, communicate, work, and die.

Most of us have instinctive evidence the world is ending - balmy December days, face-to-face conversation replaced with heads-to-screens zomboidism, a world at constant war, a political system in disarray. We hear some myths and lies so frequently that they feel like truths: Civilization is humankind’s greatest accomplishment. Progress is undeniable. Count your blessings. You’re lucky to be alive here and now. Well, maybe we are, and maybe we aren’t. Civilized to Death counters the idea that progress is inherently good, arguing that the "progress" defining our age is analogous to an advancing disease.

Prehistoric life, of course, was not without serious dangers and disadvantages. Many babies died in infancy. A broken bone, infected wound, snakebite, or difficult pregnancy could be life-threatening. But ultimately, Ryan argues, were these pre-civilized dangers more murderous than modern scourges such as car accidents, cancers, cardiovascular disease, and a technologically prolonged dying process? At a time when our ecology, our society, and our own sense of selves feels increasingly imperiled, an accurate understanding of our species’ long prelude to civilization is vital to a clear sense of the ultimate value of civilization - and its costs. In Civilized to Death, Ryan makes the claim that we should start looking backward to find our way into a better future.

©2019 Christopher Ryan (P)2019 Simon & Schuster

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Brilliant

The one negative review I have seen was written by someone who clearly hadn’t made it to the first chapter because Chris patiently and eloquently walks through all possible angles and perceptions of what he is discussing. This is a great book for our current crossroads and important listening/reading for locusts and grasshoppers alike.

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I couldn't stop listening.

Thanks to Chris Ryan for writing this.

You confirmed deep suspicions in my psyche that something was off about how I was raised, how life is planned, and how I relate to others. I don't need drugs or therapy to numb me out. I need the kind of therapy, relationships, and lifestyle that brings me closer to my natural state. As I've been doing this over the past couple years, my depression has waned, my anxiety has lessened, my discontent has subsided more and more. I am much happier eating an avocado than crembule. Happier with a beach bonfire than a loud club. More at peace with a hike than with the treadmill. We need the message in this book of simplicity, of acceptance of our nature, and the acknowledgement of our animal nature. These don't need to be damned, but understood and celebrated. Hopefully we all take the wisdom of taking a step back from all this "progress" to see what we have lost in the process.

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Half-Baked Rousseau

I thought Sex at Dawn was one of the most insightful books I've ever read, so I was willing to stay with this one until the end, but it's terrible. Ryan extrapolated way too much from his expertise and passed on Sahlins and Diamond in an uncritical and hyperbolic way. Too bad.

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A Book that make you rethink life

Civilized To Death is an amazing book! Each chapter, after chapter kept me engaged, and interested in learning more of the reality of our past, and how our society control us. However, there were times in this book that I completely disagree with the author, but regardless, I appreciate it thinking. I would highly recommend this book to everyone!!!

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We need to think deeper about our own Zoo.

This is a book I have been looking forward to for years due to Ryan's podcast and it did not disappoint. Ryan has produced (and narrated here) what I imagine will be the cause of a very big ripple in Western culture. We are in the midst of a meaning crisis with some symptoms of the crisis being a toxic divisive political circus, mass distraction through consumerism, and environmental destruction. Recent books like this one, "Tribe" by Sebastien Junger, "Lost Connections" by Johann Hari, along with evolutionary theory (and some might say common sense) point to the possibility that the cause of our meaning crisis may simply be the fact that the meaning and purpose we all need to thrive may be found by trying to live in accordance with our nature as a social ape who craves acceptance, belonging, and a collective to whom we as individuals can contribute to the wellbeing of.

To nit pick on some issues I had due to my current knowledge base and subsequent biases I docked a star each for Story and Overall. To provide some balance to a few of the brilliant arguments put forward by Ryan here I would highly recommend curious people who liked this book to check out "Stubborn Attachments" by Economist Tyler Cowen and also "The Beginning of Infinity" by Physicist David Deutsch.

Bravo Chris. This is an astounding piece of work that is very much needed.

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Well presented case for the common man's malaise

This was a well presented, well written, and very interesting argument. I appreciated the constant references found therein and also the fact that the author was skeptical of himself throughout. I really appreciated his way of crafting sentences and ideas. You can tell he's a fan of literary work. Science based that incorporates humanity unlike most books on scientific subjects that seem to ignore the human condition. Looking forward to more from this author.

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Chris has been my involuntary mentor for years.

I'm so glad CTD finally came out. Having listened to all of his podcasts I already knew his shtick, but hey. Still refreshing. Also, I'm glad he personally recorded the reading. I'm impressed, brother.

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A reminder of what is wrong with the modem world

I often wonder if life would have been easier as a hunter gatherer. this book really makes me think in many ways it would be.

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  • 11-25-19

Non-stop ranting with no practical solutions

I could not even come close to finishing this. I get it, things are bad, but rather than beating the reader over the head with incessant rants and complaints again and again, I would have liked to hear some practical solutions sprinkled in the mix. Maybe the author does so at the end of the book but honestly, I couldn't stomach the read long enough to get there.

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Congintive Dissonance

While the premise of the book is excellent, the pessimistic view of the modern world is down right depressing. I agree that our genetic make up has not yet caught up with the modern world. But the author, while condemning civilization, proposes “solutions” to society’s ills via left wing big government programs that only “civilization” can provide. So he offers more “civilized” solutions, yet whines about modern society? Cognitive dissonance much? I bought this book to read a critique on modern civilization and not to read some anti-free market, anti-rich, socialist rant by some rich author from California. Note to the author: people can cooperate in a free market society. Denmark is one of them.

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  • Jack
  • 10-29-19

This book is life changing

I wondered why at 23 I still felt trapped, inadequate, not good enough. But this is the message our modern world drills into us. Work more, consume more, chase money, chase power, more more more. So this is moment I decide to go back to what matters. To live on purpose. To not live to work. To be human

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  • Roberto Miguel
  • 10-01-19

Absolutely outstanding.

Simple and clear. Outstanding work Doc. I have followed Dr Chris Ryan for while now and his take on life has changed my outlook in so many ways. Thank you for that.

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  • Anonymous User
  • 01-20-20

Utterly enthralling. This makes my all-time top 5

Erudite and engaging without the pomposity of most academic tomes. I can't stop talking about this book.

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  • catherine jeffrey
  • 03-31-20

c19 : Read during selfisolation from corona virus

haha well I now think civilisation is a pretty good thing Christopher Ryan.

When you are cut off from it you star to appreciate the finer details of what made life in London with its fast public transport, meuseums, art galleries, dating in romantic restaurant and music festivals in Hyde park so extraordinarily CIVILIZED.

c19 is hell of a virus.

Appreciate westerner civilisation.

I've had a tiny taste of life without it and it even that was hell.

This book is well written but wow did I disagreed with most of it sitting indoors with food and essentials running low during self-isolation from covid 19.

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  • Paul d.
  • 03-20-20

awful

Such a waste of time. incredibly negative outlook. Do not bother buying this book. Feel worse than before listening to it

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  • Kevin Reade
  • 02-12-20

Changed my goals in life, completely.

Excellent narration by Chris. Cannot recommend this amazing book enough. Thank you for putting this much effort into a very worthy project

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  • Anonymous User
  • 02-10-20

Paradigm Shifting

Brilliantly argued narrative on how our shift away from our ancestral pre-agricultural life has led to an ever greater descent into dystopia.

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  • Anonymous User
  • 01-07-20

A fantastic Author that sheds a unique light

I actually do tend to shy away from the pessimistic view that I feel Chris Ryan sometimes portrays, but this book is a modern classic and his knowledge and expertise of the modern world's clear shortcomings is undeniable. This book is fantastic and I do recommend it fully from start to finish.

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  • Sam
  • 01-06-20

The message is simple - STOP & FEEL.

A sobering insight to something we all intrinsically feel in our bones. Life is a king goodbye and we would do well to remember meaning is human shaped.

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  • Anonymous User
  • 12-18-19

Great arguments

Well researched and written. Lots of thought provoking arguments presented. Definitely recommend the audio book.

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  • Anonymous User
  • 12-19-19

Chris , you’ve changed my life

When I first listened to you on Joe Rogan’s podcast I hated you - you touched every nerve of my fears and insecurities surrounding my relationship and femininity.
As I caught myself in the act of switching off the podcast , I stopped instead and decided to shore up my courage and continue to listen . I am profoundly grateful that I did . The more podcasts I listened to with you and Joe and Duncan the more I couldn’t help agreeing with so much of what you say.
I have now finished Sex at Dawn and now this incredible book , Civilized to Death and it has given me a great insight into how we interrelate and the cognitive dissonance suffered by so many of us living in this ‘civilized’ world.
I don’t know how to thank someone who has probably afforded the general populace with the two biggest paradigm-shifting works of all time , so...

Thank you x

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  • Thomas
  • 11-03-19

incredible

no non fiction book has made me question everything I know than this masterpiece.

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  • MrGherkin
  • 11-30-19

Listen, for it might change you.

A confirmation that this inner dissatisfaction is nothing to be ashamed of. Thank you Christopher

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  • Rob
  • 11-05-19

Asking hard and interesting questions

It was great. Deeply interesting, revealing much about the human condition and our origins. This is then used to explore the ways our present fails to live up to these truths. I found the writing style to be informative and entertaining, as the author has a many moments of witty word play that kept me engaged. Definitely worth your time even if you don't argee with the conclusion. The information and ideas explored in the book are valuable and raise questions worth asking and answering.

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  • Anonymous User
  • 03-02-20

If you are a human, read this EXCEPTIONAL book.

This passionately read book explores who we are as a social species, where we have come from and what we mean to each other.

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  • Marco
  • 02-07-20

Fascinating exploration of price of progress

When I watched Chris on Joe Rogans podcast, a lot of his ideas resonated with my own feelings and thoughts. I book marked this book and finally got around to it.
I concept of the pre modern human experience has always been portrayed as a struggle of a less evolved form of life at the mercy of the environment. This book explores the ideas that may not be right and at what cost to our humanity the concept of civilisation brings.
the narration is fantastic and always better when read by the author.
I have recommend this to many people and if you have read this far, you are likely going to enjoy this journey.

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  • Garry Luke
  • 02-03-20

Should be compulsory listening

If you love Christopher Ryan you will love this book.
On the same level as Sapiens as far as every human should read this to gain insight into where we have come from and to wake up to the idea that if we are not careful, where we are headed is destruction.

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  • Anonymous User
  • 11-01-19

Everyone should read or listen to this book.

Everyone should read or listen to this book. The author does a excellent job narrating the book.

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  • Anonymous User
  • 10-30-19

Opinion piece

Whilst full of interesting facts & information, its obviously cherry picked to suit a bias. Entertaining & worth a read, best taken with a grain of salt.

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  • Matthew Willis
  • 10-19-19

Worth the wait

Beautifully written and read by Christopher Ryan. Hopefully this book will be a catalyst for positive change in the world.