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She Counts

She Counts

By: Nancy McClelland CPA
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She Counts brings together respected educators Nancy McClelland, CPA, and Questian Telka, EA, for candid conversations about what it’s really like to be a woman in accounting. Whether you’re in corporate, at a firm, or running your own show, this podcast offers a space to feel seen, heard, and understood. From taboo topics to everyday challenges, She Counts is more than a podcast—it’s a community where women in accounting, tax, and bookkeeping can come together and get real.© 2026 Nancy McClelland, CPA Career Success Economics
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  • The Currency Between Women

    The Currency Between Women
    Sep 23 2026
    Nancy is joined by Madeline Reeves, founder of Fearless Foundry and creative director of Advisory Amplified, for an uncomfortable but necessary conversation: the ways women sometimes undercut each other in business. Maddy shares the moment a client asked if her proposal was her "PITA fee," and the pattern that followed of being stiffed on invoices exclusively by women. Nancy argues that the real issue isn't generosity itself, but rather, who gets to decide what counts as a gift: the giver, not the person on the receiving end. From unpaid favors to predatory coaching dressed up as empowerment, this episode asks what we owe each other as women—and what we absolutely do not.SponsorsBill - http://bill.com/shecountsRelay - https://relayfi.com/shecountsKarbon - https://karbonhq.com/(00:00) - Welcome and Sponsors(01:00) - Meet Maddie Reeves(02:49) - Episode Topic Women vs Women(06:17) - PITA Fee Pricing Story(10:55) - Unpaid Invoices Pattern(14:27) - Setting Boundaries and Vetting(16:54) - Flag Waving Red Flags(21:21) - Women Talk Money Directory(26:04) - Contracts Grace and Dialogue(29:49) - Say It Out Loud Negotiation(32:00) - Why Money Talks Are Hard(33:19) - Talking Money Out Loud(34:53) - Mixed Feelings About Wealth(36:38) - Women Only Networks Limits(38:59) - Learning From Male Rooms(40:31) - Generosity And Access(43:15) - Predatory Coaching Exposed(49:05) - Spotting Red Flags(51:02) - Healthy Pricing Dialogue(52:26) - Shame And Collective Cost(57:50) - Building Boundaries And Norms(01:03:48) - Seasonal Capacity And Respect(01:05:36) - Closing Call To ActionResourcesMadeline Reeves on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/madelinekreeves/ Fearless Foundry - https://www.fearlessfoundry.com/Advisory Amplified - https://www.advisoryamplified.com/?ref=roadie - 20% off with discount code Nancy-roadieWomen in Accounting Visionary Entrepreneurs (WAVE) - https://cec4-erin.systeme.io/0cc9baddErin Pohan on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/erinpohan/Adrienne Maree Brown (Author excerpt) - https://earthlingopinion.wordpress.com/2019/03/01/fractals-the-relationship-between-small-and-large/How to Be Perfect by Michael Schur (LA Review of Books) - https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/fools-and-philosophers-on-michael-schurs-how-to-be-perfect/How to Be Perfect by Michael Schur (Interview w Nick Offerman) - https://youtu.be/jKP2f4D8nRc?si=ezryAYZqhVtiwpf3Theatre of Public Speaking - https://publicspeaking.mistymegia.com/bundles/topscohort?ref=857055Misty Schachtell Megia on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/misty-schachtell-3a634a2/Only 2% Of Women-Owned Businesses Break The $1 Million Mark (Eilene Zimmerman in Forbes) - https://www.forbes.com/sites/eilenezimmerman/2015/04/01/only-2-of-women-owned-businesses-break-the-1-million-mark-heres-how-to-be-one-of-them/SPONSORS: [Bill, Relay, Karbon] Join Our LinkedIn Page!https://www.linkedin.com/company/she-counts-podcastSubscribe on YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/@SheCountsPodcastFollow She Counts on IGhttps://www.instagram.com/shecounts.show/Connect with Nancyhttps://www.thedancingaccountant.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/nancy-mcclelland-cpa
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    1 hr and 7 mins
  • The Power of Your Own Voice: Finding It, Trusting It, Using It

    The Power of Your Own Voice: Finding It, Trusting It, Using It
    Sep 9 2026
    What changes when you discover who you are, trust what you have to say, and recognize the impact your voice can make? In the final episode of our Curtain Call series, Nancy and Theatre of Public Speaking CEO Misty Megia bring listeners two conversations about finding, trusting, and using your own voice. Certified Fraud Examiner Candy Bellau spent her career uncovering deception, but her latest investigation is far more personal: uncovering the fraud within. She shares how she learned to become a chameleon, adapting herself to the people around her to feel safe, accepted, and loved—and the work she’s now doing to find and express her authentic self. Emily spent years happily behind the scenes at her beloved nonprofit, Spike’s K9 Fund, until its mission required her to step forward. She discovered that she couldn’t simply borrow the voice of the gifted leader who came before her. She had to find her own. Their stories come from different places, but share a powerful realization: finding your own voice can change both how you show up in the world and the impact you’re able to make. SponsorsBill - http://bill.com/shecountsRelay - https://relayfi.com/shecountsKarbon - https://karbonhq.com/(00:00) - Welcome to She Counts (01:24) - Curtain Call Setup (02:08) - Finding Your Real Voice (04:45) - Meet Candy Bellau (05:56) - Fraud Examiner Origins (07:45) - Rules Tools and Ethics (09:33) - Spotting Fraud Patterns (12:25) - Trauma and Chameleon Skills (15:05) - Controls Compensation Culture (20:56) - The Fraud Within Explained (22:18) - Honesty Kindness and Feedback (26:59) - Kindness Across Contexts (27:24) - Work Boundaries vs Loved Ones (28:27) - Saying No to Friends (29:40) - Vulnerability and Inner Fraud (31:03) - Candy Journey Reflections (32:45) - Chameleon and Belonging (34:50) - Approval and People Pleasing (36:39) - Emily Finds Her Voice (39:43) - Mission to Protect K9 Heroes (43:59) - Tools for Confidence (47:08) - How to Support Working Dogs (48:31) - Take the First Step (50:30) - Misty on Transformation (55:10) - Fully Becoming Yourself (58:30) - Series Wrap and Call to ActionResourcesMisty Schachtell Megia on LinkedIn - Misty Schachtell | LinkedIn Candy Bellau on LinkedIn - Candy Bellau, CFE, PI | LinkedIn Dawn Brolin on LinkedIn - Dawn W. Brolin, CPA, CFE | LinkedIn Nicole Landau on LinkedIn - Nicole Landau, CFE 📊👷‍♀️🔦 | LinkedIn Robert Berry aka “That Audit Guy” on LinkedIn - Robert Berry | LinkedIn Valerie Heckman on LinkedIn - Valerie Heckman | LinkedIn Scaling New Heights - https://www.woodard.com/scaling-new-heights-2027-aboutEmily Soccino Grey on LinkedIn - Emily Soccino Grey | LinkedIn Spike’s K9 Fund.org - Spikes K9 Fund | Advocates for America's Working DogsSpike’s K9 Fund on LinkedIn - Spike's K9 Fund: Home | LinkedIn Spike’s K9 Fund on Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/spikesk9fund/Spike’s K9 Fund on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/spikesk9fund/Spike’s K9 Fund on Twitter - https://x.com/Spikesk9fundSpike’s K9 Fund on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCswqkkwkdkGwqyjKCkD5JfwTheatre of Public Speaking - https://publicspeaking.mistymegia.com/?ref=857055SPONSORS: [Bill, Relay, Karbon] Join Our LinkedIn Page!https://www.linkedin.com/company/she-counts-podcastSubscribe on YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/@SheCountsPodcastFollow She Counts on IGhttps://www.instagram.com/shecounts.show/Connect with Nancyhttps://www.thedancingaccountant.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/nancy-mcclelland-cpaConnect with Questianhttps://www.reqoncilefinancials.com/
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    1 hr and 1 min
  • Understanding Yourself: Honoring How You’re Wired and Who You’ve Become

    Understanding Yourself: Honoring How You’re Wired and Who You’ve Become
    Aug 26 2026
    What happens when the way you’ve always moved through the world stops working for you? Nancy brings Mellisa Miller Furgeson (filling in for Questian) two more conversations from the Theatre of Public Speaking Advanced Retreat. Jean Zick shares how understanding her introversion helped her stop fighting the way she’s wired and start building around it. Terri Warren faced a dramatic reckoning after two strokes forced her to reconsider what she could ask of herself. Together, their stories explore what becomes possible when we understand ourselves well enough to honor what we need.SponsorsBill - http://bill.com/shecountsRelay - https://relayfi.com/shecountsKarbon - https://karbonhq.com/(00:00) - Welcome to She Counts(00:35) - Sponsors and Support(01:17) - Why These Stories Matter(04:55) - Meet Jean Zick(05:48) - Millionaire Introvert Origin(07:19) - Introvert vs Extrovert Energy(08:34) - Conference Survival Tips(14:38) - Introvert Superpowers(16:42) - Small Group Networking(18:15) - Building Virtual Connection(22:15) - Final Takeaways(24:28) - Jean Wrap Up Reflection(25:18) - Reframing Conference Breaks(26:03) - Teri’s New Reality(27:04) - Cape of Confidence Story(27:52) - Letting People In(30:33) - Layoff Shatters Identity(32:10) - Building Your Own Walls(33:41) - Stroke Rips Cape Away(35:03) - Second Stroke Wake Up(36:58) - Fear and Denial(39:27) - Acceptance and New Scoreboard(40:59) - Redefining Work and Energy(43:54) - Two Sided Cape Metaphor(49:35) - GROW Model and New Cape(50:50) - Connecting Jean and Teri(53:34) - Final Takeaways and Sign OffResourcesMelissa Miller Furgeson on LinkedIn - 👩🏻‍💻Melissa Miller Furgeson | LinkedIn Jean Zick on LinkedIn - Jean Zick | LinkedIn Sharrin Fuller on LinkedIn - Sharrin Fuller | LinkedInKelly Gonsalves on LinkedIn - Kelly Gonsalves | LinkedIn Nancy’s MSN article on Tips & Tricks for Intuit Connect - https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/expert-tips-for-attending-intuit-connect-2025/ar-AA1soTN6Nancy’s MSN article on Top 10 Accounting Conferences - https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/growth-community-and-cpe-10-accounting-conferences-that-deliver-in-2025/ar-AA1CnqrkTori Staub McKee on LinkedIn - Tori Staub McKee | LinkedIn Terri Warren on LinkedIn - Terri Warren | LinkedIn Realize - https://www.rlz.io/World Health Organization stats on missed workdays due to mental health issues - https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/mental-health-at-workIt was never a dress - https://itwasneveradress.org/Women Who Count - https://womenwhocount.com/Erin Pohan on LinkedIn - Erin Pohan | LinkedIn WAVE-Seattle - https://www.instagram.com/wave.seattle/Nicole Davis on LinkedIn - Nicole Davis, CPA | LinkedIn GROW Model - GROW model - WikipediaTheatre of Public Speaking - https://publicspeaking.mistymegia.com/?ref=857055SPONSORS: [Bill, Relay, Karbon] Join Our LinkedIn Page!https://www.linkedin.com/company/she-counts-podcastSubscribe on YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/@SheCountsPodcastFollow She Counts on IGhttps://www.instagram.com/shecounts.show/Connect with Nancyhttps://www.thedancingaccountant.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/nancy-mcclelland-cpaConnect with Questianhttps://www.reqoncilefinancials.com/
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    56 mins
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Billed as a podcast for women in the accounting profession, these are really conversations that I think most anyone would find thought-provoking, enjoyable, fresh, and at times quite moving. So many great guests!

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