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Better Business, Better Life

Better Business, Better Life

By: Debra Chantry-Taylor & Adam Harris | Business Owners & Experts
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Better Business Better Life is about one simple idea: a better business should help you create a better life. Are you doing work you genuinely enjoy, with people you respect, making a meaningful difference, being rewarded appropriately & still having time for the people, experiences & passions that matter outside work? Too many business owners build businesses that eventually begin to control their lives rather than support them. As Carefrontational Changemakers, Debra & Adam are passionate about helping business owners & leaders have the conversations, make the changes & build the structurDebra Chantry-Taylor & Adam Harris | Business Owners & Experts Economics Management Management & Leadership
Episodes
  • Megan Piper: How a $3M Business Grew to $52M with EOS
    Sep 28 2026

    In this episode of Better Business, Better Life, Debra Chantry-Taylor is joined by Megan Piper to explore how EOS® helped transform a technology business From $3M to $52M, while creating greater clarity, accountability, and trust across the leadership team.


    Megan shares her journey from an unhappy French teacher to becoming an Integrator and fractional CFO, playing a key role in helping a technology business grow from $3 million to $52 million. Her experience demonstrates how the right operating system can bring structure and consistency to a rapidly growing organisation without creating unnecessary rigidity.


    Throughout the conversation, Megan and Debra explore how EOS creates a common language for leadership teams, helping them move away from ad hoc follow-up and towards consistent quarterly execution. Rather than being a fixed structure or piece of software, EOSprovides a framework that can be adapted to the needs of each organisation.


    With distributed teams becoming increasingly common, Megan and Debra also discuss the importance of intentional communication and how virtual environments can sometimes reduce hierarchy and give more people an opportunity to participate.


    This episode offers an insightful look at what can happen when a growing business combines a clear operating system with strong leadership, accountability, and trust. From $3M to $52M is not simply a story about revenue growth, but about the people, systems, and leadership practices that helped make that growth possible.










    CONNECT WITH DEBRA:   

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    ►Debra Chantry-Taylor is a Certified EOS Implementer® | Entrepreneurial Leadership & Business Coach | Business Owner

    ►Connect with Debra: debra.chantry-taylor@eosworldwide.com

    ►EOS Worldwide Website: Debra Chantry-Taylor | EOS Implementer | EOS Worldwide

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    GUEST’S DETAILS:

    ► Megan Piper – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meganpiper/

    ► Website – EOS® Implementer – https://implementer.EOS®worldwide.com/megan-piper/












    Ep 291 Chapters:


    00:00 – Introduction

    00:36 – Megan Piper’s Professional Journey

    03:39 – Defining Business Operating Systems

    14:22 – Lessons from Scaling and Challenges

    17:07 – The Visionary and Integrator Dynamic

    21:59 – Key EOS Tools and Implementation

    22:52 – Communication and Team Dynamics

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    44 mins
  • Keith Greer: Stop Trying to Be Right and Start Getting Curious
    Sep 21 2026

    In this episode of Better Business, Better Life, Debra Chantry-Taylor is joined by Keith, an executive coach and leadership development specialist, to explore how to stop trying to be right and start getting curious in our relationships, teams & organisations.


    Keith shares insights from his background in clinical social work, family therapy, executive coaching & Conversational Intelligence, explaining how quickly our brains begin assessing whether an interaction feels safe or threatening. He explores how much of that assessment happens through non-verbal communication, including tone, body language, eye contact, attention & listening behaviours.


    The conversation dives into why trust can be built through authentic curiosity & genuine listening, and how easily it can be damaged when leaders interrupt, become distracted, make assumptions or enter conversations already convinced they know the answer.


    Keith encourages leaders to become more aware of the signals they are sending and to take responsibility for their own contribution to a relationship.


    Debra & Keith also explore what happens when trust has already been damaged. Rebuilding it requires courage, empathy & a willingness to acknowledge that a relationship has become difficult. Rather than allowing negative assumptions to grow, leaders can create space to discuss what each person needs & make the invisible dynamics visible.


    This episode is a valuable listen for leaders, entrepreneurs & family business owners who want to understand how everyday conversations can either build or break trust, and how becoming more intentional about communication can transform the way people work together.









    CONNECT WITH DEBRA:   

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    ►Debra Chantry-Taylor is a Certified EOS Implementer® | Entrepreneurial Leadership & Business Coach | Business Owner

    ►Connect with Debra: debra@businessaction.com.au

    ►See how she can help you: https://businessaction.co.nz/

    ►Claim Your Free E-Book: https://www.businessaction.co.nz/free-e-book/

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    GUEST’S DETAILS:

    ► Keith Greer – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keith-greer-l-c-s-w-p-c-c-81256a130/

    ► Website – Keith Greer Coaching – https://www.keithgreercoaching.com/








    Ep 290 Chapters:


    00:00 – Introduction

    00:36 – Keith Grier’s Professional Journey

    06:35 – The Science of Conversational Intelligence

    12:52 – Building Trust Through Communication

    17:18 – Navigating Difficult Conversations

    21:27 – Dynamics in Family Businesses

    32:47 – Implementing Trust and Safety Agreements

    54:17 – Managing Personalities and Styles

    54:57 – Key Takeaways for Effective Leadership

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    1 hr and 3 mins
  • Debra Chantry-Taylor: The Scorecard Mistakes That Keep Leaders Flying Blind
    Sep 14 2026

    In this episode of Better Business, Better Life, Debra Chantry-Taylor explores why leaders flying blind can put an entire business at risk, and how the right data can give leadership teams the visibility they need to make better decisions.


    Debra explains why businesses rarely fail without warning. Before major problems appear, there are usually subtle signals hiding in the numbers, from declining sales and increasing debtor days to changes in customer behaviour and operational performance. The challenge is knowing which numbers actually matter and using them early enough to do something about them.


    A key focus of the episode is the difference between leading and lagging indicators. Revenue, profit & customer loss tell you what has already happened, while measures such as sales calls, proposals sent & other activity-based indicators can provide an early warning of what is likely to happen next. Debra explains how leaders can reverse engineer their desired outcomes to identify the activities that will influence future results.


    Debra also explores why a Scorecard should work like a car dashboard. It does not need to tell you exactly what has gone wrong, but it should alert you to where you need to look before a small issue becomes a major problem. Keeping the leadership Scorecard to five to fifteen critical numbers makes it easier to spot trends without overwhelming the team with unnecessary data.


    Ultimately, this episode is about replacing hope & hindsight with visibility and action. A strong Scorecard gives leaders the information they need to spot problems early, investigate what is really happening & make course corrections before issues become catastrophic.


    If your leadership team is making decisions based on gut feel, outdated financial reports or numbers that tell you what happened rather than what is coming next, this episode will help you build a Scorecard that keeps you from flying blind.







    CONNECT WITH DEBRA:   

    ___________________________________________        

    ►Debra Chantry-Taylor is a Certified EOS Implementer® | Entrepreneurial Leadership & Business Coach | Business Owner

    ►Connect with Debra: debra.chantry-taylor@eosworldwide.com

    ►EOS Worldwide Website: Debra Chantry-Taylor | EOS Implementer | EOS Worldwide








    Ep 289 Chapters:

    00:00 – Introduction

    00:47 – The Purpose of Data

    07:58 – Leading and Lagging Indicators

    13:40 – The Pitfalls of Bad Data

    18:03 – Managing People with Numbers

    23:25 – Common Scorecard Mistakes

    27:00 – Building an Effective Scorecard

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    39 mins
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