Buckle up for a juicy episode. Reed and Mark sit down to discuss a betrayal that no one saw coming. For months, business was slowing down. Upon further investigation, the guys noticed a new competitor in town with the exact same pricing and service menu. It turns out the new rival company was owned by someone a lot closer to them than they thought....

In this episode, the guys get vulnerable about a shared hurt they experienced as business partners, friends, and mentors. They process the ways they fell short as bosses and share what they would do differently now that hindsight is 20/20. The Upmarket podcast has always been about business transparency, and in this episode, we're taking honesty to a new tier.

It's time to start thinking about PMRE 2026! Go to pmreconference.com for all the details on PMRE 2026, which is November 17-19th at Palms Resort & Casino in Las Vegas. The Photography and Media for Real Estate conference will be better than ever this year! Upmarket is proud to be the official podcast of PMRE!

Upmarket Pod is once again, beyond excited to partner with iGUIDE to bring you our exclusive Road to PMRE 2026 series of Upmarket episodes. SWEEPSTAKES ALERT - iGUIDE and their Tour to PMRE is giving away ONE MORE (!!!!!!) ALL-EXPENSES PAID TRIPS TO PMRE 2026!!!!! That's right, the next lucky winner will be drawn in October to win a PMRE ticket, travel and accommodation, all compliments of the fine folks at iGUIDE. To enter, all you need to do is follow @go_iguide and @upmarketpod on Instagram. Then, go to goiguide.com/pmre and enter your email address and you'll be entered in the drawing.

NOTE If you have already bought a ticket and/or booked travel to PMRE and win the sweepstakes, iGUIDE will reimburse you for money spent.

Follow the pod on Instagram at @upmarketpod.

The Presenting Sponsor of Upmarket is AutoHDR, helping real estate media professionals deliver high-quality edited photos faster and more efficiently. As a special offer for Upmarket listeners, get one month of free photo editing with your purchase. To learn more and claim the offer, visit autohdr.com/upmarket.

Another amazing sponsor is iGUIDE, which helps real estate professionals capture spaces fast and with industry-leading accuracy. Their PLANIX Pro camera delivers trusted measurements, with no subscriptions and priced per project. Options like iGUIDE Instant provide a clean 3D tour and interactive floor plan in minutes, starting at $7.99. Learn more at goiguide.com or @go_iguide.

Another sponsor is HDPhotoHub, the all-in-one platform for ordering, scheduling, and delivering complete marketing kits, from video reels to print. With pay-per-listing pricing, transparent terms, and industry-leading integrations, HDPhotoHub helps you build the workflow you actually want. Visit HDPhotoHub.com and use code Upmarket to get your first 15 full deliveries free.

Another amazing sponsor of Upmarket is SecondFloor, the fastest way to create a finished floor plan. It's so fast that you can deliver the finished floor plan while you are still on-site! Not only that, but you can get UNLIMITED floor plans for one low monthly fee. We love SecondFloor and you can go to secondfloorapp.com/upmarket and any new subscriber will get a one-month free trial.

Our Action Items are sponsored by PixlCRM, where you can scale your real estate photography business through automation. It's an all-in-one business and marketing platform that complements your current delivery app. If you go to pixlcrm.com/upmarket you can get a 30-day risk-free trial!

In this Road to PMRE episode, Reed sits down with XR-chitect and CEO of Agile Lens, Alex Coulombe to discuss the world of VR and how it's the latest and greatest in the world of real estate media. From being between dimensions, (literally and figuratively) we learn all about Alex's thoughts on AI, the technology and it's growth through the years. An experience you once thought of as isolating actually proves to be quite social and engaging. The conversation also explores tips on managing the rapid growth of AI and how it helps and threatens creatives, some of the ways it's been immensely beneficial in the real estate media circuit and how the PMRE community has encouraged business owners to be more open about both their wins and their mistakes.

It's time to start thinking about PMRE 2026! Go to pmreconference.com for all the details on PMRE 2026, which is November 17-19th at Palms Resort & Casino in Las Vegas. The Photography and Media for Real Estate conference will be better than ever this year! Upmarket is proud to be the official podcast of PMRE!

Upmarket Pod is once again, beyond excited to partner with iGUIDE to bring you our exclusive Road to PMRE 2026 series of Upmarket episodes. SWEEPSTAKES ALERT - iGUIDE and their Tour to PMRE is giving away ONE MORE (!!!!!!) ALL-EXPENSES PAID TRIPS TO PMRE 2026!!!!! That's right, the next lucky winner will be drawn in October to win a PMRE ticket, travel and accommodation, all compliments of the fine folks at iGUIDE. To enter, all you need to do is follow @go_iguide and @upmarketpod on Instagram. Then, go to goiguide.com/pmre and enter your email address and you'll be entered in the drawing.

NOTE If you have already bought a ticket and/or booked travel to PMRE and win the sweepstakes, iGUIDE will reimburse you for money spent.

Follow the pod on Instagram at @upmarketpod.

The Presenting Sponsor of Upmarket is AutoHDR, helping real estate media professionals deliver high-quality edited photos faster and more efficiently. As a special offer for Upmarket listeners, get one month of free photo editing with your purchase. To learn more and claim the offer, visit autohdr.com/upmarket.

Another amazing sponsor is iGUIDE, which helps real estate professionals capture spaces fast and with industry-leading accuracy. Their PLANIX Pro camera delivers trusted measurements, with no subscriptions and priced per project. Options like iGUIDE Instant provide a clean 3D tour and interactive floor plan in minutes, starting at $7.99. Learn more at goiguide.com or @go_iguide.

Another sponsor is HDPhotoHub, the all-in-one platform for ordering, scheduling, and delivering complete marketing kits, from video reels to print. With pay-per-listing pricing, transparent terms, and industry-leading integrations, HDPhotoHub helps you build the workflow you actually want. Visit HDPhotoHub.com and use code Upmarket to get your first 15 full deliveries free.

Another amazing sponsor of Upmarket is SecondFloor, the fastest way to create a finished floor plan. It's so fast that you can deliver the finished floor plan while you are still on-site! Not only that, but you can get UNLIMITED floor plans for one low monthly fee. We love SecondFloor and you can go to secondfloorapp.com/upmarket and any new subscriber will get a one-month free trial.

Our Action Items are sponsored by PixlCRM, where you can scale your real estate photography business through automation. It's an all-in-one business and marketing platform that complements your current delivery app. If you go to pixlcrm.com/upmarket you can get a 30-day risk-free trial!