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The New Music Business with Ari Herstand

The New Music Business with Ari Herstand

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“#1 music industry podcast to help keep you in the loop” -Spotify

“The 10 Best Music Business Podcasts of 2022" – Variety

Ari Herstand is the best-selling author of How To Make It in the New Music Business. Forbes calls him “The poster child of DIY music.” In this show, he deconstructs the brightest minds in the music industry, digging deep to find the tools, tactics, and strategies that listeners can use to run successful careers of their own. Ari offers straight talk with no fluff and doesn’t let his guests off easy. If there is a way, Ari will find it.


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Episodes
  • How This Indie Publishing Company Got Over 100 #1 Hits
    Oct 28 2026

    This week on the New Music Business podcast, Ari sits down with Chris Farren, Grammy-nominated songwriter and founder of Combustion Music, a Nashville-based music publishing and artist development company responsible for more than 100 number-one hits.

    Chris shares decades of experience navigating the music business, from writing hit songs to building a publishing company and developing artists. Ari and Chris break down how professional songwriters get signed, how songwriting rooms work, how publishing deals and advances are structured, and how songwriters earn royalties.


    Follow Chris Farren:

    https://www.instagram.com/combustionmusic/

    https://www.combustionmusic.com/


    Check out Ari’s Take:

    https://aristake.com


    05:54 - Building a music publishing company and developing artists

    15:32 - How music publishers pay songwriters

    26:07 - Songwriting as a craft: practice, productivity, and getting better

    28:16 - Teaching songwriters to write for the market without sacrificing creativity

    30:44 - Writing songs for specific artists

    32:00 - How artists' involvement in songwriting has changed

    37:58 - How songwriting rooms work

    39:15 - Pitching songs and getting them to artists

    57:51 - Music catalogs and the renewed life of older songs

    58:37 - Advice for aspiring professional songwriters


    Edited and mixed by Ruben Zarate

    Music by Brassroots District

    Produced by the team at Ari’s Take


    Order the THIRD EDITION of How to Make It in the New Music Business: https://book.aristake.com

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    1 hr and 9 mins
  • How the Major Labels Use AI Fans To Market Music
    Oct 21 2026

    This week on the New Music Business podcast, Ari sits down with Joe Lim, founder and CEO of Floodify, a marketing technology company that has distributed over 2 million short-form videos for major labels including Universal Music Group, Warner Music Group, and Sony Music.


    Joe pulls back the curtain on the rapidly evolving world of music marketing, explaining how burner accounts, clipping networks, AI-generated content, fan pages, influencer campaigns, and algorithm-driven distribution are shaping the careers of artists today. We explore the ethics behind these tactics, the concept of the “dead internet,” how major labels and marketers use social media at scale, and what independent artists can learn from these strategies.


    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joelimmmmm

    Floodify: https://www.floodify.io/


    Check out Ari’s Take:

    https://aristake.com


    04:42 – Welcome & State of Modern Music Marketing

    07:06 – Why Music Marketing is Behind Other Industries

    08:42 – What Are Burners, Fan Pages, and Clipping?

    13:29 – Commercialized Clipping & Platforms Like WHOP

    17:19 – Phone Farms and Managing Accounts at Scale

    21:21 – Using AI to Find and Generate Viral Clips

    29:56 – Modern Marketing Strategies for Independent Artists

    31:19 – The Evolution of Floodify (Floodify 2.0)

    40:41 – Dead Internet Theory, Bots, and Comment Farming

    44:25 – Is Authenticity Dead? Playing the Game to Make a Career


    Edited and mixed by Ruben Zarate

    Music by Brassroots District

    Produced by the team at Ari’s Take


    Order the THIRD EDITION of How to Make It in the New Music Business: https://book.aristake.com

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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    59 mins
  • How To Build An Independent Artist Career From The Ground Up
    Oct 14 2026

    This week on the New Music Business podcast, Ari sits down with Toni Nelson, artist manager, business manager, and co-founder of 1990 Records.


    Toni Nelson is an artist manager and co-founder of 1990 Records with a background in retail fashion and mental health clinical work. Combining expertise in behavioral science with music industry operations, Nelson specializes in sustainable artist development, data analytics, and guiding independent artists like Adrian Daniel, to build long-term, monetizable careers while protecting their intellectual property.


    Follow Toni Nelson:

    https://www.instagram.com/1990records19/

    https://1990records.org/

    Check out Ari’s Take:

    https://aristake.com


    04:01 - What it Means to Build a Creative & Fan Community

    09:00 - Protecting IP & Using Split Sheets in the Studio

    13:14 - Navigating Producer Credits, Writer Splits & Work for Hire

    18:18 - Release Strategies & Tracking Data with Music Analytics

    23:27 - How Independent Artists Can Monetize Their Audience

    27:38 - Staying Independent vs. Label Licensing Deals

    32:45 - When is an Emerging Artist Ready to Tour?

    36:22 - Case Study: Developing Adrian Daniel's Career

    43:17 - Mental Health & What It Means to Make It in Music


    Edited and mixed by Ruben Zarate

    Music by Brassroots District

    Produced by the team at Ari’s Take

    Order the THIRD EDITION of How to Make It in the New Music Business: https://book.aristake.com

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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    54 mins
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