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The MORE Show

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MORE: Maximizing Opportunities in Real Estate is where powerful conversations and real education come together. Hosted by real estate expert Justin Colby, this podcast blends insightful discussions with experienced industry leaders alongside practical, easy-to-follow breakdowns of how real estate investing truly works. We host dedicated education episodes that go deep on all things multifamily, and why it’s one of the most powerful and scalable wealth-building vehicles available today. From how larger deals are accessed to how passive income is created, we show everyday investors, entrepreneurs, and professionals how to step into opportunities that once felt out of reach.Copyright © 2020. TheScienceofFlipping.com | Podcast by Justin Colby | All Rights Reserved. Economics Personal Finance
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  • How to Reinvent Yourself When the Market Shifts | Brandon 'Rockstar' Rooks
    Sep 29 2026

    Most real estate investors know how to build in a bull market. Very few know what to do when that market turns against them. In this episode of The M.O.R.E. Show, Justin Colby sits back down with Brandon Rockstar Rooks a capital raiser who spent a decade building a $100 million land entitlement business in the southeast, working with some of the biggest national builders in the country and who hit major headwinds when the market shifted in late 2024. Brandon shares exactly what happened, why he is not embarrassed to say he is on his third reinvention, how he is pivoting into private lending, note buying, and distressed debt, and why the most dangerous thing an investor can do right now is stay loyal to a business model that has stopped working.

    KEY TOPICS COVERED:

    • How Brandon built a $100 million land entitlement business working with the biggest national builders
    • Why national builders don't want land on their balance sheets and how that creates opportunity
    • What went wrong in Q4 2024 and why the land entitlement market shifted dramatically
    • How Brandon is pivoting into private lending, note buying, and distressed debt
    • Why it is okay to start over at 40 and why staying loyal to a broken business model is not
    • The mindset of reinvention how to know when to pivot and how to do it without losing everything

    ️ Key Moments

    00:01 — Introduction: Brandon Rockstar Rooks returns to The M.O.R.E. Show

    00:32 — The Boardroom Mastermind what it is and how to get access

    01:11 — Lending is getting weird what Justin is seeing in the market right now

    01:31 — A decade of land entitlement capital raising how it started

    02:13 — Why 15% annualized returns became the minimum standard

    02:49 — How the land entitlement model works ground, permits, sell to builders

    03:16 — Why national builders don't want land on their balance sheets

    04:01 — First deal: $3M parcel in Charlotte NC 99 townhomes

    07:00 — How the $100M raise was built and what drove it

    15:00 — What changed in Q4 2024, when the market shifted

    20:00 — Pivoting into private lending, note buying, and distressed debt

    28:00 — How to know when your business model has stopped working

    33:00 — The Dan Martell post, it is okay to start over at 40

    37:00 — Round number three, reinventing again and why that is okay

    39:00 — Relationships, markets, and staying ready to pivot

    40:00 — How to connect with Brandon Rockstar Rooks

    Connect with Brandon Rockstar Rooks:

    Website - www.rockstarcapitalfund.com

    About The M.O.R.E. Show:

    The M.O.R.E. Show is hosted by Justin Colby and is dedicated to helping real estate professionals, investors, and entrepreneurs maximize opportunity in any market. New episodes every week.

    Learn more: www.timeformore.com

    Invest with Elevest Capital: www.elevestcapital.com


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    42 mins
  • Your Title Company Is Killing Your Deals, Here's Why | Ash Selle
    Sep 23 2026

    Most real estate investors have had a deal fall apart at the title company not because the deal was bad, but because the title company did not know how to handle it. In this episode of The M.O.R.E. Show, Justin Colby sits down with Ash Selle, founder of Phoenix Closing and a 25-year title and escrow veteran who has handled tens of thousands of transactions across 7 states. Ash Selle breaks down exactly how investor-friendly title works, how to close hairy and complicated deals that other title companies won't touch, what really happens inside a title company when your deal goes sideways, and why subject-to deals, double closings, probate, and foreclosure transactions require a specialist not a generalist.

    KEY TOPICS COVERED:

    • What an investor-friendly title company actually does differently from a traditional one
    • How to close subject-to deals, double closings, probate, and foreclosure transactions correctly
    • Why buyers are backing out last minute right now — and what title companies are seeing on the front lines
    • The biggest mistakes real estate investors make when working with title and escrow
    • How to find and work with a title company that will fight to get your deal across the finish line
    • What sellers in distress foreclosure, divorce, death, prison, need from a title team

    ️ Key Moments

    00:01 — Introduction: Ash Selle founder of Phoenix Closing

    00:23 — 25 years in title and escrow tens of thousands of transactions

    00:45 — Phoenix Closing explained investor-friendly title in 7 states

    01:00 — How to reach Ash Selle: phoenixclosing.co and (612) 248-6108

    01:45 — What is happening in the real estate market right now from the title side

    02:08 — Why buyers are backing out last minute and getting cold feet

    03:47 — Distressed sellers: foreclosure, divorce, prison, probate, and death

    04:09 — Interest rates why nobody on the front lines is complaining about them

    07:00 — Subject-to deals explained and how to close them correctly

    12:00 — Double closings what they are and how investor-friendly title handles them

    18:00 — Probate and estate sales what makes these transactions complicated

    22:00 — What title companies see that investors never know about

    26:00 — How to be a better investor when working with your title team

    29:07 — Ash Selle's advice: be kind title coordinators have multiple files

    29:40 — Where to find Ash Selle and Phoenix Closing

    Connect with Ash Selle:

    Website: phoenixclosing.co

    Phone: (612) 248-6108

    Facebook: Phoenix Closing


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    31 mins
  • Why There Are No Great Markets, Only Great Timing | Neal Bawa
    Sep 18 2026
    Most real estate educators tell you to master one market and stay in it forever. Neil Bawa thinks that is wrong and lazy. In this episode of The M.O.R.E. Show, Justin Colby sits down with Neal Bawa, known as the Mad Scientist of Multifamily, a former data scientist and tech company founder who has built a portfolio of over 4,000 apartment units across 7 states with $400 million under management and 1,150 active investors. Neil breaks down why his data-driven approach to real estate outperforms gut instinct every single time, how he sold out a 237-unit apartment syndication in four hours, why he learned never to invest in Chicago again, and how he is now using fully automated AI underwriting to evaluate deals faster than any human team can. KEY TOPICS COVERED: Why there are no great markets in America only great markets at certain points in time How Neil sold out a 237-unit apartment syndication in four hours using a nurtured email list The tax strategy that forced Neil into syndication and how it built his entire empire Why Neal left single family behind and went all-in on multifamily apartments How Neal's team uses fully automated AI underwriting to analyze deals at scale The current distressed deal opportunity in Dallas and why banks are offering concessions to buyers right now ️ Key Moments 00:01 — Introduction: Neal, the Mad Scientist of Multifamily 00:30 — $400 million under management 4,000 units across 7 states 00:53 — Portfolio breakdown: Utah, Idaho, Phoenix, Texas, Atlanta 01:30 — Why Neal jumps markets, there are no permanently great markets 01:54 — Neal's background: data scientist, tech company founder, recovering technologist 02:11 — How real estate reduced Neil's taxes during his tech company years 02:31 — 2013: selling the company, massive taxable event, and discovering syndication 03:21 — How a nurtured email list sold out 237 units in four hours 04:16 — 1,150 investors and $350 million in equity raised 04:41 — Taking investors on property tours and why it changes everything 07:00 — First property: Chicago, $12.5 million, and lessons learned the hard way 10:00 — Why Neal never invests in Chicago again 15:00 — Single family war scars and the pivot to multifamily 20:00 — The four pillars of multifamily including tax benefits 25:00 — Cost segregation, bonus depreciation, and real estate professional status 30:00 — Neil's AI market data tool fully automated underwriting explained 36:00 — The distressed deal opportunity in Dallas right now 40:00 — Buying directly from banks concessions, low interest rates, long IO periods 42:00 — Co-GP model and Deal Flow Fridays 43:00 — Where to find Neal Bawa Connect with Neil Bawa: https://multifamilyu.com About The M.O.R.E. Show: The M.O.R.E. Show is hosted by Justin Colby and is dedicated to helping real estate professionals, investors, and entrepreneurs maximize opportunity in any market. New episodes every week. Learn more: www.timeformore.com Invest with Elevest Capital: www.elevestcapital.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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    39 mins
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