Episode Description 👇🏼

In this episode of WOMP, Jordan sits down with registered dietitian Andy De Santis to break down the real drivers of fatty liver, the underrated power of fiber, and why legumes might be one of the most practical nutrition upgrades most people are missing.

They dig into metabolic health, ultra-processed food nuance, plant vs animal protein, and how to focus on the habits that actually move the needle.

If you want an evidence-based, practical approach to nutrition without the fear-mongering, this episode is for you.

What You Will Learn👇🏼

• What fatty liver actually is and what drives it

• Why fiber intake is still too low for most people

• The metabolic benefits of legumes

• Plant vs animal protein: what matters most

• Where the ultra-processed food conversation gets oversimplified

• Practical nutrition habits that compound over time

Timestamps👇🏼

00:00 Intro and welcome

02:10 Andy’s background and nutrition philosophy

05:45 Why Andy focuses on metabolic health

09:30 What is happening in fatty liver

14:50 Biggest drivers of fatty liver risk

20:05 Fiber and metabolic health

24:40 The case for legumes

29:15 Why beans are underutilized

33:50 Protein quality nuance

39:10 Ultra-processed foods discussion

45:25 Practical diet improvements

50:40 Where most people should start

55:30 Rapid-fire nutrition advice

59:10 Where to find Andy

Connect with Andy👇🏼

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andytherd

Website: https://andytherd.com

Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/andytherd

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andydesantisrd/

Andy De Santis is a registered dietitian known for his practical, evidence-based approach to metabolic health and plant-forward nutrition.

Connect with Jordan👇🏼

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Jordan Lips is the founder of WOMP (Where Optimal Meets Practical), helping busy adults build evidence-based nutrition and training habits that actually stick.

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