In this episode of Unscripted Curiosity, Jenn and Scott are joined by their friend and collaborator Kim Grykuliak for a wide-ranging conversation on work, wellness, and long walks—both literal and metaphorical.

Together, they explore Kim’s journey from HR and event planning into nonprofit leadership, where she found meaning and purpose at the Zebra Centre and later, in addiction recovery work. Along the way, Kim reflects on learning to care for her well-being in new ways, tuning into the signals of her body, and making space for rest and recovery. She also reflects on becoming a parent, returning to work, and finding healing through service and movement.

From 12-hour silent walks to mountain summits and long-distance training, the trio talk about the physical and mental practices that have shaped their capacity to show up—for others and themselves. They explore what it means to plan for growth, to rest with intention, and to stay connected across seasons of change.

This episode is both grounded and expansive, offering a glimpse into the quiet courage it takes to keep evolving—one step at a time.

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In this expansive and energizing conversation, Jenn and Scott sit down with David Bidler, co-founder of Physiology First, an organization on a mission to bring physiology-based education into the mainstream to support mental and physical health across the lifespan.

David shares his powerful personal journey—from early struggles with substance use to discovering purpose through Brazilian jiu-jitsu and ultramarathon running. His story weaves together themes of resilience, curiosity, and the role of movement in transforming lives. What began as a training center for endurance athletes has since grown into a global initiative to reimagine how we understand and support youth mental health.

Together, the trio explore the limits of the current mental health model, the value of building physical and social infrastructure, and why foundational habits—like sleep, hydration, sunlight, and movement—are more radical than they seem. David introduces the idea of focusing on one’s personal "hammer" (your zone of genius), and how developing that single tool deeply may be more impactful than chasing versatility.

They also discuss the promises and perils of artificial intelligence, including the emotional ties people—especially youth—are forming with AI companions. David invites deeper inquiry into how we can build purpose in an increasingly digital world and announces an upcoming 200-mile run to raise awareness and funding for Physiology First’s youth programs.

From frozen feet and lost toenails to existential purpose and the future of AI, this conversation offers both practical insights and philosophical reflection on what it means to be a human in training—for life.

Connect with David:

Website: https://physiologyfirst.org/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/physiologyfirst/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-bidler-765aa745/

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In this episode of Unscripted Curiosity, Jenn and Scott return to their roots with an unscripted conversation that moves through themes of trauma, nervous system regulation, and the evolving nature of boundaries. They begin with a reflection on the Netflix film Night Always Comes, touching on housing insecurity, personal privilege, and the complexity of the language we use to describe lived experiences.

The conversation opens into a wider exploration of somatic therapy, mindfulness, and the ongoing work of self-regulation. Jenn shares insights from her clinical practice, including how she tailors her approach to each client’s needs, while Scott reflects on the importance of boundaries in high-stress work environments, drawing from his background in law enforcement.

Together, they consider the practices that keep them grounded—meditation, movement, time in nature—and the ways they’ve each learned to hold space for others without losing themselves in the process. What emerges is an honest and thoughtful dialogue about aging, capacity, and staying connected to what matters most.

You can access the Waking Up Meditation App: https://www.wakingup.com/

My Grandmother's Hands: Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending Our Hearts and Bodies by Reesma Menakem: https://a.co/d/iXWM1Cd

Night Always Comes | Official Trailer | Netflix: https://youtu.be/Gd44vTsTUhs?si=WE50LoDPKzujIoql

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On this episode of Unscripted Curiosity, we sit down with Clare Gallant for a brave and deeply personal conversation that leans into the messiness of parenting, identity, and letting go—proof that curiosity paired with courage can open doors to healing we didn’t know we needed.

Clare shares her powerful story of adopting a child with reactive attachment disorder and the unspoken toll it took on her family, her sense of self, and her nervous system. With honesty and heart, she reflects on the grief of making the impossible decision to let go—and the long journey of self-forgiveness and healing that followed. We talk about parenting through trauma, the complex emotions of retirement, and the unexpected sense of purpose Clare discovered in her new job at Costco.

The conversation opens up questions about legacy, aging, and how we find meaning when the roles we’ve lived in begin to shift. We explore what it means to be “adventure ready” at any age, the surprising comfort of physical work, and why creativity and curiosity remain essential companions in later chapters of life.

This one is rich with hard-won insight, laughter, and gentle reminders that personal transformation often begins with telling the truth—first to ourselves, and then to others.

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In this episode of Unscripted Curiosity, Jenn and Scott are joined by Cecily Milne, founder of Yoga Detour, for a wide-ranging and beautifully human conversation about growth, movement, motherhood, and redefining ambition.

Cecily shares how discomfort has been a catalyst for both personal and professional evolution—from launching Yoga Detour after her own injuries, to navigating a major life move from Toronto to Squamish, BC. She opens up about postpartum anxiety, the hidden challenges of parenting, and the surprising shifts in identity that come with living in a slower-paced, mountain-town culture.

Together, the trio explores the messiness of “enoughness,” the unlearning required to embrace interdependence, and how authenticity—not perfection—is the most magnetic force in both business and relationships. Cecily also speaks candidly about balancing online teaching with real-life connection, and how movement remains a powerful tool for her mental health.

Expect honest reflections, a few laughs, and a reminder that growth doesn’t always look graceful—but it’s worth it.

You can learn more about Yoga Detour here - www.followthedetour.com or on IG @yogadetour.

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In this episode of Unscripted Curiosity, Jenn and Scott settle into a conversation that makes space—for pause, for presence, for not having it all figured out. They touch on the discomfort of asking for help, and the subtle ways we override our nervous systems in the name of getting things done.

They share personal reflections on people-pleasing, growing up fast, and learning (still) how to receive. Jenn opens up about her early tendencies to fill space in therapy sessions — and the transformative impact of learning to wait, be quiet, and trust the process. Scott shares insights from his time as a crisis negotiator and police officer, and how those experiences shaped his comfort with silence and presence under pressure.

This one’s for anyone who:

• Struggles to slow down, ask for help, or sit in silence without squirming
• Feels the pull to perform, please, or be productive — even when nobody’s asking
• Wants to better understand the link between nervous system health and emotional capacity
• Is curious (or frustrated) about journaling and other creative practices that just won’t stick
• Has ever wondered what it really means to be with someone, rather than fix or guide them

Also covered: phones in bedrooms, wine after 40, the challenge of teaching online, and why prompts might be the key to unlocking Scott’s secret dream of writing.

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In this episode of Unscripted Curiosity, Scott and Jenn sit down with Scott’s brother, Dan Jones—a former beat cop, current Chair of Justice Studies at NorQuest College, and someone who brings heart, grit, and wisdom to conversations about justice, trauma, and healing.

Dan shares the path that took him from being labeled and underestimated as a kid to earning a Master’s degree from Cambridge University, and building a career rooted in compassion, not just correction. He opens up about the emotional toll of policing, the importance of boundaries, and how he’s learning to stay regulated in a world that often isn’t. From his deep respect for Indigenous healing practices to the everyday rituals—like barefoot walks and feeding magpies—that help him feel human, Dan invites us into a conversation about vulnerability, resilience, and finding fulfillment in unexpected places.

This episode is full of laughter, honesty, and reflections on brotherhood, burnout, and why men’s mental health deserves more space. It’s a conversation about doing the work—and staying curious while you do.

Connect with Dan: daniel.jones@norquest.ca

Learn more about NorQuest College: https://www.norquest.ca/

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In this episode of Unscripted Curiosity, we sit down with Caroline Cheng, a mental health educator with the RCMP, whose journey has taken her from science labs to forensics to the front lines of mental wellness in law enforcement. Caroline shares stories of growing up in an immigrant family shaped by academic pressure and high achievement, how she’s learning to quiet her inner critic, and why she believes curiosity and community are central to healing.

We talk about the shift from independence to interdependence, how perfectionism and cultural values can shape our mental health narratives, and the power of crying, cold plunges, and aerial circus arts as regulation tools. Caroline also reflects on integrating wellness into first responder culture, what she’s still unlearning, and the big, open-ended questions guiding her life right now.

Expect laughter, real talk, and an inspiring reminder that growth is rarely linear—and always better when shared.

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