In this episode, I sit down with my best friend, Trevor Cochever, for a real, raw, and wide-ranging conversation. If you missed Trevor’s story of overcoming drug addiction and rebuilding his life, we’ll link that in the show notes—it’s a powerful listen. But today, we pivot from the past and dive straight into the tough realities and powerful breakthroughs that come from major life changes, breakups, and the relentless pursuit of self-improvement. We talk about what it looks like to stop settling for mediocrity, trade comfort for growth, and the real value of investing in yourself—mentally, physically, emotionally, and spiritually.

Trevor and I open up about sacrificing comfort for what really matters, the dangers of living on autopilot, and how to move from just wanting a better life to truly valuing and prioritizing it. We share stories about overcoming setbacks, navigating fear, and the inner work needed to break old patterns—plus, we cover everything from snoring and health hacks to business investments, parenting, and protecting what’s precious.

There’s plenty of humor, hard truths, and practical tools to help you get unstuck and onto your next level—whatever that looks like for you. If you’re ready to stop settling, find deeper fulfillment, and surround yourself with the right people, tune in and let’s get after it.

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Episode Timestamps

1. 00:00:00 – Brad Jensen kicks off the show, introduces Trevor Cochever, and reminisces about Trevor’s last appearance and personal story.

2. 00:01:39 – Trevor reveals being on the brink of a breakup during his last episode and discusses the challenges and emotions involved.

3. 00:04:48 – The duo dives into a humorous discussion about snoring, sharing personal stories and observations.

4. 00:06:09 – Exploring sleep apnea, mouth taping, and nighttime routines for better quality sleep.

5. 00:08:26 – Brad announces open enrollment for the Next Level Experience and emphasizes the pain of settling for mediocrity.

6. 00:12:14 – Trevor speaks about referring a friend (Cass) to the program and reflects on personal growth through community and guidance.

7. 00:15:51 – Conversation shifts to investing in self-improvement, stepping out of comfort zones, and the value of pushing through fear.

8. 00:19:42 – Brad reflects on moments of comfort versus long-term complacency, using spa days and former sports fandom as examples.

9. 00:25:19 – Discussion on prioritizing values, presence with family, and how healing and personal priorities shift over time.

10. 00:28:06 – Trevor shares how habits like meditation, journaling, and the gym became true values, not just wishes.

11. 00:39:36 – Brad and Trevor discuss balancing physical fitness with inner work, warning against making outward appearance the sole source of self-worth.

12. 00:47:34 – Brad plays a Chris Williamson clip on sacrificing lifestyle for money, sparking a deep dive on the “bar stool upside down” principle.

We’ve all felt it—that knot in your stomach, the second-guessing, the urge to play small. Fear shows up fast and loud anytime you’re about to do something big. But what if fear isn’t something to avoid… what if it’s the exact sign you’re on the right path?

In today’s episode, I break down fear in a way you may have never heard before. We’ll dive into the real reason fear exists, the difference between fear of failure and fear of success, and how to reframe fear as fuel instead of a roadblock. This isn’t just mindset talk—this is about stepping into the version of you that’s been playing in the background for way too long.

If you’ve been feeling pulled toward something greater, but fear is holding you back… this episode is for you.

What you’ll learn:

• Why fear often means you’re exactly where you need to be
• The surprising difference between fear of failure and fear of success
• How to take aligned action—even when your palms are sweaty
• A story of someone who leaned into fear—and changed their entire life

The Next Level Experience is now enrolling. If this episode hit home, book your discovery call now.

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This episode is a ree-air from my recent appearance on The Shawn Rivers Podcast, titled “He Lived Through Six Overdoses to Tell His Story of Sobriety.”

But this wasn’t just another interview about my past.

Yes — we touched on my journey through addiction and the chaos I survived.

But it was the questions Shawn asked after that part of the story that really hit me.

They weren’t the usual surface-level ones.

They were the kind that made me pause and think… deeply.

About sobriety, yes — but also about leadership, growth, my approach to fitness, and what it really means to live at the next level.

This episode will hit home for anyone who’s ever battled their demons…

But it’s also for the high-performers who want more — more peace, more purpose, and more alignment in their life.

You’ll walk away with:

• New insights on the real cost of chasing the wrong things
• How to stop performing for the world and start living for yourself
• And why living in integrity is the highest form of personal power

Tune in. This one goes deep

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In this episode of The Next Level Health & Fitness Podcast, I sit down with James Yount — a longtime listener and social media supporter who reached out to share his personal story of transformation. And after hearing it, I knew we had to record this episode.

James has been sober from meth for five years. But his story isn’t your typical “before and after.” He was actually overweight during his active addiction — something not often talked about — and has since lost a significant amount of weight as part of his journey back to health.

We dive deep into his addiction, what finally led to his rock bottom, and how he found a new path through faith and fitness. James doesn’t coach, sell programs, or try to be anything other than what he is: a guy in recovery who’s passionate about sharing his story to help others.

This is one of those episodes that reminds you why we do this work. It’s real, it’s raw, and it’s full of heart.

We cover:

• James’ battle with meth addiction and how he finally got clean
• The unique challenge of being overweight during active addiction
• How faith became the foundation of his recovery
• The role fitness played in rebuilding his life
• What keeps him grounded today — five years sober and thriving

Whether you’re in recovery, know someone who is, or just need a reminder of the power of redemption — this one’s worth a listen.

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Episode Timestamps

00:00 James' Inspiring Recovery Journey

05:39 Struggles with Addiction and Loss

08:58 No Home, No Family, No Loss

11:18 Rebuilding After Addiction Regrets

14:11 "Addiction's Breaking Point: Meth"

17:15 Faith-Led Recovery from Addiction

23:10 "From Rock Bottom to Redemption"

25:07 "Start Small, Achieve Big"

30:00 "Christian Journey: Overcoming Addiction"

33:55 Family's Transformative Faith Journey

37:42 From TED Ambitions to Gratitude

39:24 Embracing Authenticity After Addiction

43:18 Morning Gratitude and Routine

45:46 Understanding Addiction and Mental Health

48:32 Multiple Paths to Sobriety

54:22 Start Small for Lasting Change

56:28 Recovery Coaching for Financial Wellbeing

58:10 Gratitude and Farewell from Brad

In this powerful episode, I’m joined by special guest Oliver Amundson—a graduate of The Next Level Experience—and my good friend and cohost for this one, Cass Zimmerman.

Oliver’s story is raw, real, and damn inspiring. Just over a year ago, he was an employee barely making ends meet. Today? He owns a thriving painting company with multiple employees and a growing reputation. But that business breakthrough didn’t happen overnight. It started when he made the scary—but life-altering—decision to invest in himself and join The Next Level Experience.

We dive into:

• Oliver’s upbringing and personal story, including his transition journey
• How his addiction nearly derailed his life—and how he got clean
• Why being trans is not the most important or interesting thing about him
• The danger of wrapping your entire identity around one label
• What happens when you stop living in fear and start betting on yourself
• How he made the leap financially (even when it didn’t make logical sense)… and how it completely changed his life

This episode is about owning your truth, taking chances, and unlocking the next level—personally and professionally.

Plus, I make a special announcement about a completely FREE live masterclass I’m hosting on June 3 at 6 PM MST. It’s called Peace & Profit: The Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs Who Want It All—designed to help high performers not just succeed in business, but in life… in parenting, relationships, health, and fulfillment.

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In this powerful and raw episode, Brad sits down with special guest Paul Casey, whose story of redemption will leave you inspired and fired up to take full ownership of your life.

Paul spent 10 consecutive years in some of the toughest prisons in the California Department of Corrections. But instead of letting that time break him, Paul used it as fuel for transformation. Toward the tail end of his sentence, he got sober, dove into fitness and nutrition, and began helping others with their macros and training—all from behind bars.

Upon release, Paul wasted no time jumping headfirst into the fitness industry—training clients at Orangetheory and leading group fitness classes. Today, he’s the proud owner of The Better You, a thriving personal training business in the Bay Area offering private and group coaching.

We talk about:

• What prison really taught him about discipline and character
• How fitness and sobriety became his anchor
• The mindset it takes to turn rock bottom into a launching pad
• His transition from incarceration to entrepreneurship
• Why daily habits and structure are non-negotiable in building a better life

Paul’s story is proof that your past does not define you—and that with purpose, discipline, and a vision, you can rewrite yours.

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Episode Timestamps

00:00 "From Victim to Predator"

08:05 Assault and Terrorist Threat Conviction

14:11 Numbness and Hustle After Loss

17:01 Drug Dealing Descent Into Addiction

22:36 Transformation Through Inmate Mentorship

29:50 Discovering Passion Through Helping Others

35:19 "Sobriety Journey: In and Out"

40:08 Sacrifices for Fitness Success

46:47 Self-Neglect Due to Overcommitment

50:03 Hormonal Differences: Impact on Fitness

54:21 Ego-Free Transformation Journey

59:18 Identity Transformation Steps

01:05:54 Overcoming Negative Self-Image

01:09:47 Sharing Stories Boosts Business

01:14:06 Embracing My Past as an Asset

01:20:28 "Comparison as Joy's Thief"

If you’ve ever felt fired up on a Monday and totally off the rails by Thursday, you’re not alone — I’ve been there too. In this solo episode, I’m breaking down why motivation is one of the most overrated tools in your toolbox… and what actually keeps you going when motivation fades (because it will).

I’ll walk you through a powerful mindset shift that’s changed everything for me — how identity, discipline, and simple systems are what really drive lasting results. We’re diving into James Clear’s concept of identity-based habits, and I’ll show you exactly how I apply this in my life, my fitness, and how I coach others to do the same.

If you’re tired of riding the motivation rollercoaster, this one’s for you.

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In this episode of the Next Level Health & Fitness Podcast, Brad Jensen and cohost Craig Smith dive into Mel Robbins’ popular “Let Them” theory that’s been making the rounds on social media. You’ve probably seen it—someone disrespects you or doesn’t meet your expectations and the advice is: “Let them.” But is it that simple?

We unpack the potential benefits of this mindset—especially when it comes to releasing control, protecting your peace, and avoiding unnecessary emotional burnout. But we also challenge the idea and explore the dangers of oversimplifying complex relationships or bypassing healthy boundaries.

This is a conversation rooted in nuance, not black-and-white thinking. We talk about how to discern when “letting them” is empowering… and when it’s actually enabling.

Even when it comes from someone we admire—like Mel Robbins—we believe it’s worth slowing down and looking at the full picture.

What you’ll hear in this episode:

• What the “Let Them” theory really means
• Where this mindset can be empowering and liberating
• The risk of using it to avoid conflict or ignore hard conversations
• How to tell when to let go vs. when to lean in
• Why it’s healthy to question even advice from people you respect

If you’ve ever struggled with people-pleasing, setting boundaries, or navigating emotional fatigue in relationships—this one’s for you.

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Episode Timestamps

00:00 Mel Robbins' Rapid Rise

06:00 "Mel's Unique Approach: Acceptance"

09:36 Book Critique: Oversimplified, Lacks Boundaries

10:32 "Setting Healthy Boundaries"

16:45 "Regret Over Quitting Baseball"

19:33 Coping with Uncontrollable Outcomes

22:25 "Reflecting on Family and Self"

24:53 "Understanding Cognitive Behavioral Responses"

28:37 "The Cost of 'One More'"

31:20 Parental Control and Stress Response

33:46 "Grateful for Your Support"