In this episode, I sit down with my best friend, Trevor Cochever, for a real, raw, and wide-ranging conversation. If you missed Trevor’s story of overcoming drug addiction and rebuilding his life, we’ll link that in the show notes—it’s a powerful listen. But today, we pivot from the past and dive straight into the tough realities and powerful breakthroughs that come from major life changes, breakups, and the relentless pursuit of self-improvement. We talk about what it looks like to stop settling for mediocrity, trade comfort for growth, and the real value of investing in yourself—mentally, physically, emotionally, and spiritually.

Trevor and I open up about sacrificing comfort for what really matters, the dangers of living on autopilot, and how to move from just wanting a better life to truly valuing and prioritizing it. We share stories about overcoming setbacks, navigating fear, and the inner work needed to break old patterns—plus, we cover everything from snoring and health hacks to business investments, parenting, and protecting what’s precious.

There’s plenty of humor, hard truths, and practical tools to help you get unstuck and onto your next level—whatever that looks like for you. If you’re ready to stop settling, find deeper fulfillment, and surround yourself with the right people, tune in and let’s get after it.

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Episode Timestamps

1. 00:00:00 – Brad Jensen kicks off the show, introduces Trevor Cochever, and reminisces about Trevor’s last appearance and personal story.

2. 00:01:39 – Trevor reveals being on the brink of a breakup during his last episode and discusses the challenges and emotions involved.

3. 00:04:48 – The duo dives into a humorous discussion about snoring, sharing personal stories and observations.

4. 00:06:09 – Exploring sleep apnea, mouth taping, and nighttime routines for better quality sleep.

5. 00:08:26 – Brad announces open enrollment for the Next Level Experience and emphasizes the pain of settling for mediocrity.

6. 00:12:14 – Trevor speaks about referring a friend (Cass) to the program and reflects on personal growth through community and guidance.

7. 00:15:51 – Conversation shifts to investing in self-improvement, stepping out of comfort zones, and the value of pushing through fear.

8. 00:19:42 – Brad reflects on moments of comfort versus long-term complacency, using spa days and former sports fandom as examples.

9. 00:25:19 – Discussion on prioritizing values, presence with family, and how healing and personal priorities shift over time.

10. 00:28:06 – Trevor shares how habits like meditation, journaling, and the gym became true values, not just wishes.

11. 00:39:36 – Brad and Trevor discuss balancing physical fitness with inner work, warning against making outward appearance the sole source of self-worth.

12. 00:47:34 – Brad plays a Chris Williamson clip on sacrificing lifestyle for money, sparking a deep dive on the “bar stool upside down” principle.

We’ve all felt it—that knot in your stomach, the second-guessing, the urge to play small. Fear shows up fast and loud anytime you’re about to do something big. But what if fear isn’t something to avoid… what if it’s the exact sign you’re on the right path?

In today’s episode, I break down fear in a way you may have never heard before. We’ll dive into the real reason fear exists, the difference between fear of failure and fear of success, and how to reframe fear as fuel instead of a roadblock. This isn’t just mindset talk—this is about stepping into the version of you that’s been playing in the background for way too long.

If you’ve been feeling pulled toward something greater, but fear is holding you back… this episode is for you.

What you’ll learn:

• Why fear often means you’re exactly where you need to be
• The surprising difference between fear of failure and fear of success
• How to take aligned action—even when your palms are sweaty
• A story of someone who leaned into fear—and changed their entire life

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This episode is a ree-air from my recent appearance on The Shawn Rivers Podcast, titled “He Lived Through Six Overdoses to Tell His Story of Sobriety.”

But this wasn’t just another interview about my past.

Yes — we touched on my journey through addiction and the chaos I survived.

But it was the questions Shawn asked after that part of the story that really hit me.

They weren’t the usual surface-level ones.

They were the kind that made me pause and think… deeply.

About sobriety, yes — but also about leadership, growth, my approach to fitness, and what it really means to live at the next level.

This episode will hit home for anyone who’s ever battled their demons…

But it’s also for the high-performers who want more — more peace, more purpose, and more alignment in their life.

You’ll walk away with:

• New insights on the real cost of chasing the wrong things
• How to stop performing for the world and start living for yourself
• And why living in integrity is the highest form of personal power

Tune in. This one goes deep

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