Bob Kinney is a recovered alcoholic after an 18-year battle of severe alcoholism. He is a father of six children and has 12 grandchildren. He is a veteran with a heart for homeless veterans. He is a Christian, retired carpenter, and devoted father and grandpa, residing in New Hope, MN. He is the author of Kill Me or Cure Me, a memoir published in 2024 which relives the story of his addiction and eventual recovery: Kill Me or Cure Me: A Message of True Recovery from Addiction.

This is a true story about addiction, recovery, and the destructive effects on family and loved ones. Treatment after treatment, meeting after meeting, and medications of every kind could not cure the craving or satisfy the emptiness brought on by my addiction. And none of which eased the quilt or shame he felt from the pain he had caused others. So, into the perpetual relapse he went, struggling for sobriety and attempting to conquer the craving, the great force feeding the addiction.

But this story does not end in defeat, a story sadly too common in this world. Rather this is a story to find an answer, to see ourselves for what we are and what we can become, being set free of this nightmare, and the ability to have true recovery and restoration of life.

In this interview, Bob shares a story or two of his experience of being at the lowest point of life from alcohol addiction where he lost everything and became homeless - his point of no return. Then, how he turned it around finding recovery and re-establishing relationships with his children and grandchildren. He wants to share how much he appreciates sobriety and life as a father/grandfather thanks to our loving and gracious God. His daughter, Colleen Schaeffel, who wrote her own memoir (Do You Believe in Me) is also present in the interview to talk about her dad: the dad she helped see his way to recovery. In her book Colleen tells the true story of the perfect family torn apart by addiction. She rallied her siblings to stand together through adversity, loss and whatever it took to find hope in their lives and recovery for their father. Her book is a must read for anyone who has lived through family dysfunction and a family member’s addiction. Colleen is so blessed to have him back in her life.

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Success isn’t just about climbing the ladder—it’s about helping others climb it too.

That’s the heart of Nick Jonsson, co-founder and Managing Director of EGN (Executives' Global Network) across Singapore, Malaysia, and Indonesia. Through EGN, Nick has built a lifeline for 800+ senior leaders—a safe space for connection, strategy, and real talk in the high-stakes, often isolating world of executive leadership.

But Nick’s impact goes deeper than titles and networks. After losing everything to addiction—career, health, and family—he turned personal rock bottom into a mission. Sparked by the tragic loss of a friend, Nick wrote the bestselling Executive Loneliness, a bold, honest guide that’s helped thousands of executives face burnout, stress, and isolation.

Now, as a top Ironman triathlete, executive coach, and global keynote speaker, Nick walks his talk on resilience and mental wellness. His insights have reached millions through 80+ podcasts, 30+ media features, and stages across Asia, including the APSS and CIPM HR conferences.

Nick’s story is one of comeback, courage, and compassion. If you think leadership is only about results, think again. Nick is here to show it’s also about humanity.

Listen in—because you’re never too old to grow young.

https://www.amazon.com/Executive-Loneliness-Overcoming-Isolation-Depression/dp/B09QH58C32

https://www.nickjonsson.com/

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Dr. Frederic Luskin is a psychologist who has been teaching at Stanford University for the past 30 years. He has a Ph. D in Counseling and Health Psychology from Stanford University and holds clinical licenses as a Psychologist and a Marriage and Family Counselor. Currently he is on the faculty for the GSB Executive Education program where he teaches mindfulness, emotional intelligence, psychological safety, and positive psychology to executives from all over the world. When not at Stanford, Dr. Luskin often speaks to a variety of audiences, including investors, corporate leaders, medical and mental health professionals, educators and several other organizations and individuals.

He also serves as Director of the Stanford University Forgiveness Projects. The forgiveness projects sponsor teaching and research that validate his nine steps to forgiveness. Dr. Luskin is one of the world’s recognized authorities on forgiveness, both of self and others and has taught forgiveness to tens of thousands of people.

Fred’s group has completed some good pilot data and written a workbook to help folks. How to use the research derived 9 steps to forgiveness. There is particular need for self forgiveness in recovery

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