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  • Episode 10: Willow Sipling
    Jan 17 2026

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    In this episode, host Stephen Stanley speaks with Willow Sipling. Willow is a public policy sociologist focusing her research and writing on organizational ethics, religious fundamentalism, and conversion therapy.

    Willow also serves as a nonprofit leader at OutCenter Southwest Michigan and is completing a PhD at Western Michigan University. Willow grew up intersex and trans in a conservative religious household, and through her spiritual journey visited on many different faith traditions.

    As she navigates her path, she highlights the significance of critical thinking and the need for inclusive spaces within religious contexts. The conversation culminates in a discussion about the broader implications of faith, identity, and the ongoing fight for acceptance and understanding within religious institutions, ultimately advocating for a more compassionate and inclusive approach to spirituality. It's a fascinating journey that I know you'll enjoy.

    To learn more about check out her website here: https://willowsipling.com/

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    Please drop me a line on social media, or email me at perpetualbrunch (at) gmail.com. I'd love to hear from you!


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  • Episode 9: Jeza Belle
    Oct 11 2025

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    In this episode of Our Lady of Perpetual Brunch, host Stephen Stanley engages in a lively discussion with Jeza Belle, a drag performer, Bible scholar, and accomplished author.

    The conversation covers Jeza's journey navigating her Jewish and Christian upbringing, her studies at a conservative Southern religious college, the intersection of her faith with her drag persona, her motivations behind writing her award-winning book, Jeza's Jesus Juice, and her recent and upcoming LGBTQ+ historical fiction books.

    Jeza shares her insights on pride, grace, and radical inclusivity within the LGBTQ+ community and beyond.

    You can see more about Jeza on her website iamjezabelle. And be sure to check out links to her writings, including her award-winning devotional Jeza's Jesus Juice, and her new novel Abomination: The Story of David and Jonathan.

    Jeza's Instagram

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    Credits:

    Audio Assistant: Gerry Milligan

    Production Assistant: Ben Medley

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  • Episode 8: Bill White
    Sep 26 2025

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    In this episode of 'Our Lady of Perpetual Brunch,' host Stephen Stanley sits down with Pastor Bill White of City Church Long Beach to discuss his evolving views on LGBTQ+ inclusion in the church. Bill shares his personal journey, sparked by his son's coming out, which transitioned him from a conservative evangelical stance to becoming an affirming advocate.

    They delve into the challenges and breakthroughs in Bill's ministry and his outreach work with Small Church Big Table, a nonprofit coaching evangelical leaders on fostering inclusive environments. Join them for a heartfelt conversation about love, faith, and the transformative power of acceptance.

    You can read his son's moving re-telling of his journey in the NY Times to coming out to his dad here.

    And you can listen or read to Bill's journals and further reflections in the NY Times here. (I recommend the listen option!)


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    Drop me a line on social media, or email me at perpetualbrunch (at) gmail.com. I'd love to hear from you!


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  • Episode 7: Flamy Grant
    Sep 13 2025

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    Episode 7: Flamy Grant

    In this episode of Our Lady of Perpetual Brunch, host Stephen Stanley sits down with Flamy Grant, a groundbreaking, openly queer singer-songwriter who has made big waves in the contemporary Christian music scene. Flamy shares her journey from being raised in a conservative evangelical environment to becoming a trailblazer for LGBTQ+ representation in a genre that has never had a drag performer top its charts before. Through her defiant and joyous music, Flamy demonstrates the importance of inclusivity and the rejection of gatekeeping in spiritual spaces.

    To learn more about Flamy, check out her website at www.flamygrant.com. You can check out her music and touring schedule there, or listen to her on all major platforms.

    To follow up on social or learn more, check out our linktree here.

    Drop me a line on social media, or email me at perpetualbrunch (at) gmail.com. I'd love to hear from you!

    Song Credits:

    Everything's Made Up (c) 2022, Flamy Grant

    Good Day (c) 2022, Flamy Grant from the album Bible Belt Baby.

    Songs used with permission of Artist.




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  • Episode 6: Colby Holt and Sam Probst
    Apr 25 2025

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    Join me as I chat with Colby Holt and Sam Probst.

    Colby and Sam are the directors of the recent film Ganymede, which examines coming out and religious trauma through the lens of a horror creature feature.

    Colby is also a drag nun in Chicago as part of a Mission House Of The Sisters Of Perpetual Indulgence: Rev. Sister Merry Mae-King.

    I hope you enjoy!



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  • Episode 5: Michael Bell
    Apr 11 2025

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    Join me as I chat with Michael Bell.

    Michael is the Executive Director of the Savannah Pride Center in Savannah GA. He’s also a multi-dimensional channel, Reiki Master Teacher and Energy Healing Practitioner.

    We'll discuss his work with the Pride Center, his understanding of religious trauma and addiction among queer people, and how we can all tap into our own ability to heal.

    https://savannahpridecenter.org/

    https://www.instagram.com/michaelbellhealing/

    Audio and Production Assistance this episode by Tony Keating

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  • Episode 4: Rev. Marc Trimm
    Mar 29 2025

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    Join me as I chat with the Reverend Marc Trimm. Marc is the Senior Pastor of Metropolitan Community Church of our Redeemer in Augusta, Georgia. Augusta is home to a vibrant gay community but also an intense streak of conservative evangelicalism (including being known as the founding city of the Southern Baptist Convention.

    We'll discuss how Mark leads a Queer church in this storied city, and how he approaches scripture, history, and discrimination against the LGBTQ+ community.

    https://www.mccoor.com/

    https://www.facebook.com/mccofourredeemer/

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    Audio and Production Assistance this episode by Joe Bush

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  • Episode 3: Lynn Discenza
    Mar 15 2025

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    Join me as I chat with Lynn Discenza. Lynn will tell us about her journey as a trans woman in the Catholic Church and her ongoing conversations with everyone from her local Priest all the way up to Pope Francis. After our brunch, we discuss her own journey of self discovery, the fight she's making within the Church, and why she stays a Catholic. She's an absolute delight - thought-provoking and genuinely funny.

    I know you'll enjoy it.


    https://www.stonewallspeakers.org/

    https://spsact.org/ministries/open-hearts-lgbtq-ministry/

    https://www.lgbt-ipc.org/

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