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In this episode of 'Our Lady of Perpetual Brunch,' host Stephen Stanley sits down with Pastor Bill White of City Church Long Beach to discuss his evolving views on LGBTQ+ inclusion in the church. Bill shares his personal journey, sparked by his son's coming out, which transitioned him from a conservative evangelical stance to becoming an affirming advocate.

They delve into the challenges and breakthroughs in Bill's ministry and his outreach work with Small Church Big Table, a nonprofit coaching evangelical leaders on fostering inclusive environments. Join them for a heartfelt conversation about love, faith, and the transformative power of acceptance.

You can read his son's moving re-telling of his journey in the NY Times to coming out to his dad here.

And you can listen or read to Bill's journals and further reflections in the NY Times here. (I recommend the listen option!)

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Season 2, Episode 1: Flamy Grant

In this episode of Our Lady of Perpetual Brunch, host Stephen Stanley sits down with Flamy Grant, a groundbreaking, openly queer singer-songwriter who has made big waves in the contemporary Christian music scene. Flamy shares her journey from being raised in a conservative evangelical environment to becoming a trailblazer for LGBTQ+ representation in a genre that has never had a drag performer top its charts before. Through her defiant and joyous music, Flamy demonstrates the importance of inclusivity and the rejection of gatekeeping in spiritual spaces.

To learn more about Flamy, check out her website at www.flamygrant.com. You can check out her music and touring schedule there, or listen to her on all major platforms.

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Song Credits:

Everything's Made Up (c) 2022, Flamy Grant

Good Day (c) 2022, Flamy Grant from the album Bible Belt Baby.

Songs used with permission of Artist.

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Join me as I chat with Colby Holt and Sam Probst.

Colby and Sam are the directors of the recent film Ganymede, which examines coming out and religious trauma through the lens of a horror creature feature.

Colby is also a drag nun in Chicago as part of a Mission House Of The Sisters Of Perpetual Indulgence: Rev. Sister Merry Mae-King.

I hope you enjoy!

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