Episode 11: John Smid

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In this episode of Our Lady of Perpetual Brunch, host Stephen Stanley sits with with John Smid, a former leader of the ex-gay ministry Love in Action. John shares his extraordinary journey from coming out as gay in the late 1970s, to entering conversion therapy, and eventually renouncing those practices. He discusses the emotional toll of ex-gay ministries, the impact on families, and his path to redemption and acceptance. John reflects on the importance of community, love, and living in uncertainty, emphasizing the need for grace and understanding in a world that often lacks it.

This is a little longer than our normal episode, but it's a remarkable journey that I hope you'll enjoy taking with me.

Episode Links:

We discuss the documentary This Is What Love In Action Looks Like, which chronicled a protest outside the headquarters of the Memphis-based conversion therapy center of Love In Action. Here's a link to that doc: https://tubitv.com/movies/100003746/this-is-what-love-in-action-looks-like

Here's a link to the trailer.

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