In this episode of the Natural Passages Podcast, host Herb Stevenson explores the countercultural practice of “not doing.”

We live in a world that glorifies busyness—always moving, always producing. But what happens when we pause? Herb shares how slowing down creates space for clarity, creativity, and authentic connection. Drawing from his consulting work, he offers stories of leaders and organizations that discovered innovation and resilience through reflection and presence.

You’ll hear about:

• Why “not doing” isn’t passivity, but a leadership practice

• How silence and reflection spark better decision-making

• Ways to prevent burnout by resisting false urgency

• Practical steps for shifting from busyness to presence

This conversation is about more than business—it’s about rethinking how we live, lead, and connect in today’s chaotic world.

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In this episode of Natural Passages: Revealing the Unmarked Doors of Life, host Herb Stevenson explores what it really means to pay attention. It’s easy to say we’re paying attention, but are we doing it out of old habits and mental routines—or are we consciously aware of what’s right in front of us?

Herb introduces a fresh perspective on the Tuckman stages of group development—forming, storming, norming, and performing—and applies them to our internal process of relating to ourselves, others, and the world. He walks through four stages of attention and shows how they influence our ability to connect, communicate, and grow.

• What it means to “pay attention to what” instead of just paying attention

• How internal safety and self-image shape our awareness (Forming)

• The challenges of differentiation, debate, and defense (Storming)

• Moving into authentic dialogue and shared understanding (Norming)

• Experiencing true presence, connection, and generativity (Performing/We)

• How these stages mirror personal relationships, teams, and even global dynamics

Herb also reflects on the current “storming” stage in the world and offers insights into how shifting toward a me and you or we perspective can create meaningful change in our communities and beyond.

This episode offers practical frameworks for anyone seeking deeper self-awareness, stronger relationships, or more effective leadership. Whether you’re navigating personal growth, business dynamics, or social change, Herb provides tools to recognize where you are in the process—and how to move forward.

🎧 Tune in now and discover how paying attention can transform your inner and outer world.

Show Notes:
In this episode of the Natural Passages Podcast, host Herb Stevenson explores the power of attention and presence in a world overwhelmed by noise, stress, and distraction. Herb introduces the concept of the “wobble”—a frenetic, scattered state of mind that keeps us disconnected from ourselves and others. Through stories, practical examples, and timeless wisdom, he shows how shifting your focus can reduce anxiety, improve communication, and restore balance in both personal and professional life.

Listeners will gain insight into:

• Why most of us only half-listen in conversations—and how to change it.

• How cultivating presence can strengthen relationships at home and at work.

• Why mindfulness and attention are not “woo-woo,” but practical tools for modern living.

• How practicing presence reduces stress, creates clarity, and opens the door to a richer, more meaningful life.

Whether you’re a leader, a coach, or simply someone searching for more calm and effectiveness in daily life, this episode will help you ground yourself, pay attention to what truly matters, and reconnect with the essence of who you are.

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