Episode 37: The Four Levels of Listening During the Holidays

In Episode 37 of the Natural Passages Podcast, Herb Stevenson delivers a timely, no-nonsense conversation about something most people get wrong—listening. As the holiday season brings emotional pressure, family tension, and uncertainty, Herb explains why we often think we’re listening when we’re actually reacting to old stories, assumptions, and past experiences.

This full episode breaks down the four levels of listening, with a strong focus on generative listening, presence, and emotional awareness. Herb shares practical, real-world guidance on posture, eye contact, validation, and quieting internal reactions—tools that can immediately improve conversations at holiday gatherings and beyond. If you want fewer conflicts, deeper connection, and more meaningful moments, this episode sets the standard for how to truly show up for others.

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