Tuck chats with author Caro De Robertis (they/them). Topics include:

• Caro’s oral history work with trans, genderqueer, and two-spirit elders of color
• Why Spanish can be more gender-affirming than English
• How Caro’s knowledge of South American dictatorships informs their perspective on US politics
• Why Black trans women were encouraged to detransition during the AIDS crisis (and other stories from elders)
• Plus: Butch babies, genderfuck, and staying free (!)

Gender Ordeal be in Chicago (4/24), Minneapolis (4/25) and Brooklyn (5/9) and then we’re done forever! Grab your tickets at genderpodcast.com/live see u soon!!!

This Week in Gender: We share info about US border crossings.

• How to enter the US with your digital privacy intact (Wired)
• Tracking the foreign nationals detained by ICE as tourists or U.S. residents (Axios)
• What green-card and visa holders should know before traveling abroad (NPR)
• Can Border Agents Search Your Electronic Devices? It’s Complicated. (ACLU)
• Countries issue advisories about trans people traveling to the United States (CNN)

Submit a piece of Theymail: Today’s message was from the Dancing Rabbit Ecovillage.

Find Caro at caroderobertis.com. So Many Stars is available for pre-order now.

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Find transcripts and more at genderpodcast.com. We’re also on Instagram @gendereveal.

Senior Producer: Ozzy Llinas Goodman
Logo: Ira M. Leigh
Music: Breakmaster Cylinder
Additional music: “Huffalo” “Four Count” & “Nine Count” by Blue Dot Sessions
Sponsors: DeleteMe (code: TUCK20)

Happy Trans Day of Having a Nice Snack! In this bonus episode, Tuck and Ozzy chat with author Jeanne Thornton (she/her) about ‘90s chatrooms, masking quizzes, community open mics, second-person narration, a possible Plot Conflict Trans Misery Industrial Complex, and hidden crossover events in the Jeanne Thornton literary universe.

Listen to the full episode on Patreon to hear discussions of Topside Press goss, job interview horror stories, trans motherhood advice, Jeanne & Anton’s friendship origin story, and whether the ending of A/S/L is “ontologically evil” lol.

Grab our Trans Day of Snack graphic here.

Find Jeanne @jeanneticallymodified and at jeannethornton.com and instarbooks.com, and at World Transsexual Forum every fourth Monday at Franklin Park. A/S/L is available from Soho Press.

Come see Gender Ordeal on tour in Chicago and Minneapolis in April!

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Senior Producer: Ozzy Llinas Goodman
Logo: Ira M. Leigh
Music: Breakmaster Cylinder
Additional Music: Blue Dot Sessions

Ozzy and Tuck chat with philosopher Talia Mae Bettcher (she/her). Topics include:

• Creating a theory of trans oppression beyond the “wrong body” and “beyond the binary” accounts
• How clothing can be part of an abusive system of forced disclosure
• “Let’s meditate on genitalia if we can for a moment”
• Why are there so many terfs in philosophy??
• Plus: Phoria, apparitionals, moral sex, and other fun new vocab

This Week in Gender: Updates on Trans Day of Having a Nice Snack community events! Apply for funding at bit.ly/tdos2025 or donate at @Tuck-Woodstock & PayPal.me/TWoodstock.

Submit a piece of Theymail: Today’s messages were from Queer Third Space and Voces Language Club.

Find Talia’s work here and here. Beyond Personhood is available from University of Minnesota Press.

Gender Ordeal is coming to Chicago and Minneapolis! Grab your tickets quickly at genderpodcast.com/live.

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Find transcripts and more at genderpodcast.com. We’re also on Instagram @gendereveal.

Senior Producer: Ozzy Llinas Goodman
Logo: Ira M. Leigh
Music: Breakmaster Cylinder
Additional music: “Kickstep” by Blue Dot Sessions
Sponsors: DeleteMe (code: TUCK20)

Tuck explains this year’s Trans Day of Snack celebrations — which includes the opportunity to organize a Gender Reveal-funded gathering! — before chatting with Seattle Trans Joy’s Jerika Che (they/them). Topics include:

• How do I organize a Trans Day of Snack event in my area?
• How do I choose a location?
• How can I spread the word?
• What safety measures might be helpful?
• Plus: Trans vegan donuts, potlucks, and emotional support cis?

For more organizing tips and stories, listen to last year’s episode with Jerika. Learn more about Trans Day of Snack via these PopSugar and Vice articles. (We also chatted with TDOS co-founder Lilith on Gender Conceal.)

Organizing your own Trans Day of Snack event? Apply for a small grant at bit.ly/tdos2025. (Folks can send donations to @Tuck-Woodstock or PayPal.me/TWoodstock)

CHICAGO! Gender Ordeal is coming to you! Tickets on sale now, please come hang out!

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Senior Producer: Ozzy Llinas Goodman
Logo: Ira M. Leigh
Music: Breakmaster Cylinder
Additional music: “Beignet” and “Palms Down” by Blue Dot Sessions

Tuck chats with Palestinian activist Yaffa (they/she) about their experiences with last year's student encampments, their belief in collectivism, and their journey to mononymity.

Listen to the full episode on Patreon to hear what Yaffa learned about gender from Palestinian elders, among other topics.

Find Yaffa @yaffasutopia across platforms, and at themasgd.org and merajpublishing.com.

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Senior Producer: Ozzy Llinas Goodman
Logo: Ira M. Leigh
Music: Breakmaster Cylinder
Additional Music: Blue Dot Sessions

Tuck and Ozzy chat with writer Vera Blossom (she/her). Topics include:

• Being the hottest girlie at the men-only bathhouse
• Writing a memoir-grimoire complete with magic spells
• What did estrogen teach Vera about the life cycle of pigeons???
• Is Shrek the ideal man? (And are straight roommates queer-coded?)
• Plus: Las Vegas, Pokemon boarding school online role-play, and the ghost of the gay guy who previously owned Vera’s bread machine

This Week in Gender: We revisit past interviews with Dean Spade and Chase Strangio and recommend reading “literally what can we do.”

Submit a piece of Theymail: Today’s messages were from et al. Scholars and Max Burns UX.

Find Vera @cuteflesh and at howtofucklikeagirl.com. How to Fuck Like a Girl is available now at bookshop.org.

We’re on tour this week! Any tickets left are at genderpodcast.com/live.

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Find transcripts and more at genderpodcast.com. We’re also on Instagram @gendereveal.

Senior Producer: Ozzy Llinas Goodman
Additional help from Lil Gael Montevecchi
Logo: Ira M. Leigh
Music: Breakmaster Cylinder
Additional music: “Spinning Meter” by Blue Dot Sessions
Sponsors: DeleteMe (code: TUCK20)

Tuck, Mattie (she/they) and Calvin (he/him) attempt to answer two questions:

1. What is Gender Ordeal?
2. Why are they doing it?

Along the way, we also reveal the amount of time that Tuck can be emotionally available on a plane, and how many years you have to stay married before you earn a watch.

Listen to the full episode on Patreon for discussions of gender-swapped holes, erotic landlord chocolate, a new definition of bi vs gay, the world's largest ball of sisal twine, furry-owned pants stores, Mattie’s secret tour talent, puppy girl representation, and what gay guys are doing over there.

Find us on tour! We're in DC THIS FRIDAY and on the west coast Feb 10-12. Come have fun for an hour why not?

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Senior Producer: Ozzy Llinas Goodman
Logo: Ira M. Leigh
Music: Breakmaster Cylinder
Additional Music: Blue Dot Sessions

We’re celebrating Gender Reveal’s seventh anniversary by journeying into a little galaxy of gender futures.

Join our Patreon to access Gender Conceal and discover even more futures of gender. Find episode transcripts at genderpodcast.com.

Sound Design: Arlie Adlington
Senior Producer: Ozzy Llinas Goodman
Logo: Ira M. Leigh
Theme: Breakmaster Cylinder
Additional Music: Blue Dot Sessions