Tuck chats with author Caro De Robertis (they/them). Topics include:

• Caro’s oral history work with trans, genderqueer, and two-spirit elders of color
• Why Spanish can be more gender-affirming than English
• How Caro’s knowledge of South American dictatorships informs their perspective on US politics
• Why Black trans women were encouraged to detransition during the AIDS crisis (and other stories from elders)
• Plus: Butch babies, genderfuck, and staying free (!)

Gender Ordeal be in Chicago (4/24), Minneapolis (4/25) and Brooklyn (5/9) and then we’re done forever! Grab your tickets at genderpodcast.com/live see u soon!!!

This Week in Gender: We share info about US border crossings.

• How to enter the US with your digital privacy intact (Wired)
• Tracking the foreign nationals detained by ICE as tourists or U.S. residents (Axios)
• What green-card and visa holders should know before traveling abroad (NPR)
• Can Border Agents Search Your Electronic Devices? It’s Complicated. (ACLU)
• Countries issue advisories about trans people traveling to the United States (CNN)

Submit a piece of Theymail: Today’s message was from the Dancing Rabbit Ecovillage.

Find Caro at caroderobertis.com. So Many Stars is available for pre-order now.

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Senior Producer: Ozzy Llinas Goodman
Logo: Ira M. Leigh
Music: Breakmaster Cylinder
Additional music: “Huffalo” “Four Count” & “Nine Count” by Blue Dot Sessions
Sponsors: DeleteMe (code: TUCK20)

Happy Trans Day of Having a Nice Snack! In this bonus episode, Tuck and Ozzy chat with author Jeanne Thornton (she/her) about ‘90s chatrooms, masking quizzes, community open mics, second-person narration, a possible Plot Conflict Trans Misery Industrial Complex, and hidden crossover events in the Jeanne Thornton literary universe.

Listen to the full episode on Patreon to hear discussions of Topside Press goss, job interview horror stories, trans motherhood advice, Jeanne & Anton’s friendship origin story, and whether the ending of A/S/L is “ontologically evil” lol.

Grab our Trans Day of Snack graphic here.

Find Jeanne @jeanneticallymodified and at jeannethornton.com and instarbooks.com, and at World Transsexual Forum every fourth Monday at Franklin Park. A/S/L is available from Soho Press.

Come see Gender Ordeal on tour in Chicago and Minneapolis in April!

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Senior Producer: Ozzy Llinas Goodman
Logo: Ira M. Leigh
Music: Breakmaster Cylinder
Additional Music: Blue Dot Sessions

Ozzy and Tuck chat with philosopher Talia Mae Bettcher (she/her). Topics include:

• Creating a theory of trans oppression beyond the “wrong body” and “beyond the binary” accounts
• How clothing can be part of an abusive system of forced disclosure
• “Let’s meditate on genitalia if we can for a moment”
• Why are there so many terfs in philosophy??
• Plus: Phoria, apparitionals, moral sex, and other fun new vocab

This Week in Gender: Updates on Trans Day of Having a Nice Snack community events! Apply for funding at bit.ly/tdos2025 or donate at @Tuck-Woodstock & PayPal.me/TWoodstock.

Submit a piece of Theymail: Today’s messages were from Queer Third Space and Voces Language Club.

Find Talia’s work here and here. Beyond Personhood is available from University of Minnesota Press.

Gender Ordeal is coming to Chicago and Minneapolis! Grab your tickets quickly at genderpodcast.com/live.

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Join our Patreon to access our monthly bonus episodes and weekly newsletter.

Find transcripts and more at genderpodcast.com. We’re also on Instagram @gendereveal.

Senior Producer: Ozzy Llinas Goodman
Logo: Ira M. Leigh
Music: Breakmaster Cylinder
Additional music: “Kickstep” by Blue Dot Sessions
Sponsors: DeleteMe (code: TUCK20)