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Everyone has influence, which is the basis of leadership. BOW’s bi-weekly episodes are purposed to prepare and empower Christian women for leadership and life. They feature our ministry team and women guests who share from their professional ministry experience. Whatever your calling – influencing your neighbors, coworkers, family, friends, leading small groups – this podcast is for you.© 2024 Beyond Ordinary Women Ministries Cristianismo Espiritualidad Ministerio y Evangelismo
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  • Women Imprisoned for Their Faith

    Women Imprisoned for Their Faith
    Nov 4 2025
    Dr. Nijay Gupta Dr. Kelley Mathews Dr. Nijay Gupta, author of Tell Her Story, joins BOW Team Member Kelley Mathews in this fascinating discussion of persecuted women in the early church. What can we learn from their stories? How do their stories encourage our faith and our own courage? What can we learn from them? What do we miss when we fail to study them? These women's stories provide models for us today to stand up for Christ, to know that he is better than anything that comes into our lives, and to be willing to cling to him no matter what happens to us or our country in the future. Recommended resources By Dr. Gupta Tell Her Story: How Women Led, Taught, and Ministered in the Early Church Redeeming Eden: How Women in the Bible Advance the Story of Salvation by Ingrid Faro and Joyce Koo Dalrymple nijaykgupta.substack.com Christianity Today article by Dr. Gupta, "Junia, the Female Apostle Imprisoned for the Gospel" This episode is available on video if you prefer watching. Timestamps: 00:22 Introductions 01:40 Junia (Romans 16:7) and the conditions in Roman prisons, especially for women 13:25 What egregious activities would put a woman in prison? 17:17 Perpetua, whose diary provides great information about imprisonment, and Felicity, her slave girl 28:31 Blandina's story 29:30 Physical suffering in the Scriptures 37:26 Other resources TranscriptKelley >> Welcome to the Beyond Ordinary Women Podcast. I'm your host Kelley Mathews. And today I have with me Dr. Nijay Gupta. He is a professor at Northern Seminary and a prolific author. Welcome, Nijay. Dr. Gupta >> Hi, Kelley. Looking forward to our conversation. Kelley >> So this is going to be fun, I think. I mean, well, fun. That's relative, I guess. But it'll be intriguing I think. Nijay has written a lot of books. He's been a professor for a while. A lot of his books have to do with Paul and the New Testament letters that he wrote. But he's also written one particular book that is specific to our topic today, and it is called Tell Her Story came out a couple of years ago, and it basically tells about the women in the New Testament who were really involved in leading and participating in the mission of the church. So it has become quite popular, from what I understand. I certainly enjoyed it. Dr. Gupta >> Yes, thank you. Yeah, it's funny. I, you know, just had an idea to write this book, and I sent it to an editor friend of mine, Anna Gissing, and she was so excited. And then it just sort of took off from there. So a big thank you to Intervarsity Press for publishing it. Kelley >> Oh, they're great. So one of the women in that book we're going to start with. Our topic today is specific, not that broad of women involved in the church, but specifically ones who were imprisoned for their faith. And one of the women you cover in the book does hold that honor, I suppose. And we're also going to talk about one who is post biblical days who are still in the early church and maybe will hit a third one. So, Nijay, tell us who Junia is and why we need to know about her. Dr. Gupta >> Yeah. A lot of my work on this subject owes a debt to Romans 16, which is the last chapter of Paul's big letter to the Romans. And I used to think of Romans 16 as a bunch of kind of hellos that Paul gives at the end of the letter, almost like end credits in a movie. And you sort of get up, you don't pay attention. You leave the movie theater. And so I had a friend in seminary who actually memorized the whole book of Romans, and he asked me, how should I memorize Roman 16? And I said, You're at the end. Just finish it off. But there's that sense of you're preaching through Romans. You kind of, you know, have so much to work with. Just in the first four chapters, let alone get to chapter 11, let alone if you get to chapter 15 that I don't know if I hear from any very many sermons on Romans 16.
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  • Women & Worship in the Early Church

    Women & Worship in the Early Church
    Oct 7 2025
    Dr. Sandra Glahn Dr. Kelley Mathews Dr. Sandra Glahn, Professor at Dallas Seminary, joins BOW Team Member Kelley Mathews in this episode. They discuss the fascinating archaeological discovery of the Megiddo Mosaic and what it reveals about women and worship in the early church. The Mosaic was found in what is the earliest Christian church known in the world This Mosaic is currently on loan and can be seen at the Museum of the Bible in Washington, D.C. Other resources: See pictures of the Megiddo Mosaic at the website of The Museum of the Bible. BOW's podcast series on how Biblical archaeology can enhance our faith with Angela Everett: 1. Biblical Archaeology: Why It Is Important; 2. Old Testament Discoveries; 3. New Testament Discoveries. Or link to the videos of each where you can see images of the archaeological finds: Part 1; Part 2: and Part 3. This episode is available on video as well. Timestamps: 00:20 Introductions of Dr. Glahn & the topic 02:23 What is the visual record of the church and why is it important? 06:18 Background of the Visual Museum of Women in Christianity 07:52 What was the archaeological find at Megiddo? And what does it tell us about the early Christian church? And particularly women? 14:27 The most significant thing about the mosaic itself 20:45 The incorrect and better narratives as to why there were so many women the early church 24:05 Display at the Museum of the Bible [Note: If you are interested, check to see if the Mosaic is still on display.] 24:35 Why was the Mosaic covered? 25:24 The deity of Christ 26:59 Where to see images of the mosaic TranscriptKelley >> Welcome to the Beyond Ordinary Women Podcast. I'm Kelley Mathews and I am delighted today to host Dr. Sandra Glahn, a longtime friend and colleague. And she's a seminary professor. But today we're going to talk to her in her context of being the co-founder of the Visual Museum of Women in Christianity. Welcome. Dr. Glahn >> Thank you. My pleasure. Kelley >> This is fun. Yeah. So today we're going to talk about something old, really old. And archaeology is a big part of biblical studies that gives us lots of background. And there have been some discoveries in recent years that really apply to women in particular. So tell us what we all heard of the Dead Sea Scrolls or most of us probably. And those were discovered decades ago and they've really revealed a lot. What are people saying is the biggest discovery since then? Dr. Glahn >> Since then. So it's a floor that was found in Megiddo, which is connected with Armageddon. That's where you hear the "magid" in there. So it's not just notorious. It's also known for some great stuff in church history and in biblical history. And some folks were digging in a prison courtyard and came upon a preserved floor that's a beautiful stone mosaic. And the thing I love about mosaics is they can look like they were set yesterday, whereas a fresco fades, a statue usually in 2000 years, loses a nose or an arm, or archer loses a bow or whatever. But the mosaics are much more preserved. And this floor was intentionally preserved. So it was clear that it was hidden for a reason, but it was intended to hide it for a long lasting preservation. So it wasn't just covered over with sand and dirt as the years went by, it was more like a plaster-ish substance that said, “We want to protect this, but we want to hide it.” So I should probably back up and tell you what in the world I do. I'm a seminary professor who mostly teach writing and all those hard verses about women in the Bible. What do I have to do with archaeology? And because that will be relevant in what we talk about. So one of the courses I teach at a seminary level is medieval art and spirituality. And we take men and women to Italy for about 17 to 19 days every other summer and look at the visual record of the church. That is particularly relevant for women because often when we teach church h...
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  • Making the Complex Simple

    Making the Complex Simple
    Sep 23 2025
    Dr. Nika Spaulding Dr. Kay Daigle Dr. Nika Spaulding makes the complex simple for everyday people. In this episode she joins Dr. Kay Daigle to discuss the first booklet in her series Theology in 10. Her purpose is to help us all easily understand theological issues. Her first booklet tackles the topic of the Trinity. It's hard to grasp, but Nika finds a way to simplify it so that all believers not only understand it but also apply this truth in real life. Don't miss Nika's easy explanation of the series and this topic. If you want to dig deeper into understanding the Trinity, consider ordering one of the resources that Nika suggests below. Resources: Theology in 10 at nikaspaulding.com Delighting in the Trinity: An Introduction to the Christian Faith by Michael Reeves The Deep Things of God: How the Trinity Changes Everything by Fred Sanders Trinity songs playlist Other topics with Nika: Series on justice Series on lament Series on Choosing Trustworthy Resources Trinity songs playlist This episode is available on video as well. Timestamps: 00:20 Introductions 01:35 How Nika got into theology 04:15 The desire to make theology simple for everyone 06:13 Nika's project to make theology accessible in 10 09:45 Elements included in 10 pages 11:47 Goals for the reader 13:31 Why start with the Trinity? 16:03 What are the "So Whats" from the Trinity? 31:54 How to get Theology in 10 32:18 Other resources 33:04 Nika's Closing comments on God's love for us--that all members of the Trinity love and save us. TranscriptKay >> Hi. I'm Kay Daigle of Beyond Ordinary Women Ministries. I'm here today with Nika Spaulding. Welcome, Nika. Nika >> Thanks, Kay. Kay >> And welcome to all of you out there. We're so glad that you joined us for this conversation. We're going to be talking about theology for everyday people. And let me tell you just a little bit about Nika, why she is an expert in theology. She has a DMin in New Testament. And she also has a master's of theology from DTS. And she is a storyteller and a theologian. And I've heard her described herself as actually a Bible nerd. Nika >> That's so true. Yeah. Kay >> So those are things that I know about Nika. And she has been working on a new project, Theology in 10. I'll let her tell you about that. But it is that theology for everyday people that she has come up with. And so I really want to talk about all those things. And I could but first, I really thought, particularly since we're talking about you as the theologian and theology, that maybe some people don't know anything really about you. So tell us a little bit about your background and why you got into theology in the first place. Nika >> Yeah, it's such a good question. So I didn't grow up in the church, so the fact that I'm like now a Doctor of Ministry in the New Testament is like more shocking maybe to me than anyone. So I actually have a science background. I grew up in a non-Christian home. My parents are believers now. I grew up in a great home. I loved my family. But theology was this really foreign thing to me! This like I knew that books existed. I knew that theology was like a discipline, like zoology, which is my bachelor's degree or like psychology or all of these things. But I got to college and I thought for sure I was going to be a doctor because I love science and I wanted to help people. But to this day, if I see blood or vomit, I get weak in the knees and I pass out like till this day. And I knew this even going into college. So. Oh, yeah, everybody with common sense kept going “Maybe you should pick a different career,” but I didn't have enough common sense at 18. So eventually I realized, Okay, I'm not going to make it through medical school. So now what? And that started me on a journey of trying to figure out what is it that God was calling me to do. At that point, I was walking with the Lord faithfully.
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