Allyship gets talked about a lot. This episode asks whether it actually changes anything.

Chloe Duncan, Fran Harrison, and Nzinga Orgill bring three distinct perspectives to a conversation about what allyship looks like in practice, where it falls short, and what organisations and individuals need to do differently.

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Guests

Chloe Duncan is an in-house DEI strategist specialising in inclusion-led culture transformation, aligning people strategy with organisational performance and regulatory obligations. She has designed and delivered inclusion initiatives across charity, emergency services and regulatory sectors. Chloe also volunteers as Head of Communications and Engagement at the Optimise Foundation. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-duncan-b1926515a/

Fran Harrison has more than 30 years in learning delivery, design and technologies. She has recently embarked on serious learning of her own, in transformative coaching and applied positive psychology, shifting towards a more developmental and transformational focus in her practice. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fran-harrison-uk/

Nzinga Orgill is Founder and CEO of Avi2i, a consultancy transforming how organisations communicate, include, and serve diverse audiences across events, tourism, aviation, and customer experience. With nearly two decades of expertise in project delivery, cultural competence, and psychological safety, she helps teams move beyond performative gestures and redesign systems so every colleague and customer feels safe, seen, and satisfied. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nzinga-orgill/

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You can buy us a coffee to support Women Talking About Learning via Ko-Fi.

Or you can email us via hello@llarn.com

This Episode: Grief is an inevitable part of life, yet it remains one of the most challenging topics to discuss, especially in the workplace. This episode considers many different forms of grief—just a heads-up, this is not a usual type of episode and is, you'll notice, a bit longer than the norm.

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Kavita Brown is owner and learning director for LDG Training. She's a highly experienced independent trainer, facilitator and L&D consultant, having worked across various sectors. Kavita has significant experience in people roles across learning and development, HR, recruitment and organisational design. She's passionate about empowering change, transformation and growth in a fun, creative and inspiring way. linkedin.com/in/kavita-brown-9943a332

Anita Guru is founder of The Mind Coach. She's an experienced mindset coach, psychotherapeutic counsellor and motivational speaker with a background in occupational psychology. She has nearly two decades of learning, leadership and organisational development experience at organisations such as Deloitte, Centrica and Coca-Cola. Anita supports organisations to raise awareness and support employees navigating grief. Committed to shattering stigma due to personal experiences, she actively raises awareness on issues linked to mental health and women's health. She has featured in Vogue, The Mail on Sunday, The Telegraph, The Times and on BBC Radio London. linkedin.com/feed anitagurumindcoach.com

Lisa Sharp is a senior learning consultant who designs practical, human-centred solutions that help organisations turn strategy into meaningful behavioural change. With more than 15 years of experience across industries, she has led onboarding, leadership development and change initiatives within complex, regulated environments. linkedin.com/in/lisa-sharp-a2088583 solvdtogether.com

Sarah-Jane Bellion is the leadership capability manager at Center Parcs UK & Ireland. Previously she spent over 12 years at Marks & Spencer, most recently partnering with their retail operations team. She designs learning experiences that spark curiosity, build confidence and make a lasting impact, helping people to see themselves and their world a little differently. Sarah-Jane's work sits at the intersection of people development, performance and creativity. Her own experience of grief has deepened her understanding of resilience and what it truly means to grow. She believes impactful learning happens through honest conversation, vulnerability and connection. linkedin.com/in/sarah-jane-bellion instagram.com/sjbellion

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This Episode: Returning to work is rarely just a logistics problem. It's a confidence problem, an identity problem, and for many women, a systemic problem that organisations still haven't taken seriously enough.

Clair Madeley and Jo Edgar speak from experience: as practitioners and as women who've navigated the return themselves. This is a conversation about what actually makes coming back harder than it needs to be and what genuine support looks like.

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Guests: Clair Madeley is a Technology Trainer and Learning Specialist who has navigated her own career transitions. She knows firsthand what it's like to manage confidence dips, identity shifts, and the practical realities of stepping back into work. linkedin.com/in/clair-madeley-175b8522

Jo Edgar is a Freelance Executive Coach and Leadership Trainer with over 20 years in learning and development. She specialises in coaching women returning to work after career breaks — whether through maternity leave, caring responsibilities, redundancy, or life taking a different turn. jo@joedgarcoachinganddevelopment.com | linkedin.com/in/jo-edgar-15b692151

Resources: How to cope with mum guilt | Emma's Diary Back to the office: not what women need | NOON Caregiver Leave in the UK | Contend Legal Flexible Work Arrangements | Benepass Flexible Work Arrangements | Women in Research 10 ways flexible working attracts senior women | Timewise Investing in Women Return Ready Week Survey Results Challenges facing women in post-study jobs post-pandemic | HEPI Employers' return to office plans 2025 | CIPD Getting Back to Work | IES Office Return Varies Across Sectors | British Chambers of Commerce Gender Differences in Loneliness Returning to work after a break | South London Partnership Returner toolkit | GOV.UK Women, work and caring | IES Women in AI (#WAI) Women Are Avoiding AI. Will Their Careers Suffer? | HBS Working Knowledge WISE Campaign Top 3 barriers women face returning to work | IEP Social Innovation Analysis on Women Back to Work Women's health: a quarter shamed into returning early | FemTech World Half of mothers have negative experiences returning after maternity leave. AI and gender equality | UN Women

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