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Nat & Mat - Conscious conversations

Nat & Mat - Conscious conversations

De: Natalie Zannoni and Mathew Creedon
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Join Natalie Zannoni (aka Iris Belhaze) and Mat Creedon — her songwriting collaborator, producer, and reluctant spiritual guide — as they dive deep into the creative process and the nature of existence… often at the same time.
Recorded live in the studio while producing new Iris Belhaze tracks, Nat and Mat invites listeners right into the heart of their musical and philosophical chaos — no filters, no edits, no pretending to have it all figured out. Natalie’s raw, hard-hitting questions about the physical and spiritual collide with Mat’s grounded, often humorous attempts to make sense of it all.
🎧 Hear the music they’re creating as it happens, with all the laughter, tangents, and truth bombs left in.
👉 Listen to Iris Belhaze: Spotify Link 👉 Listen to Mat Creedon: Spotify Link

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Episodios
  • Writing Without Clinging — Letting Go of the Outcome

    Writing Without Clinging — Letting Go of the Outcome
    Mar 2 2026
    There’s a strange tension in songwriting.
    You sit down to create something honest… but somewhere along the way, the outcome sneaks in.
    Will this be good? Will people like it? Will it stream? Will it define me?
    In this episode, Nat and Mat talk about the subtle attachment artists develop to results — and how that attachment can quietly suffocate creativity.
    We explore:
    • Writing from pressure vs writing from presence • The fear of releasing imperfect work • Identity wrapped up in a song’s success • How letting go of outcome can actually make better art
    This isn’t about pretending outcomes don’t matter.
    It’s about noticing when they start driving the process.
    If you’re a songwriter, producer, or creative of any kind — this conversation might feel uncomfortably familiar.
    Make the song. Tell the truth. Then let it go.
    — Nat & Mat

    Thanks for wandering through the cosmic confusion with us. If you’d like to hear what Nat and Mat sound like when they’re actually trying, listen to their music:
    🎶 Iris Belhaze — mysterious, emotional, indie magic: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nRV37P5mZCDvH0WnB6zlM?si=FkB2ZkjyRU-xP3_FuFAywg
    🎶 Mat Creedon — sonic wizard, bowl banger, occasional philosopher: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0I59ZpA9ngsaNrPOCT1Ct1?si=Xtiz0sSrSDG432F-ntLrqA
    New episodes weekly. No guarantees of sanity.
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    55 m
  • Acceptance, Surrender & Time: Why Fighting Life Makes It Harder

    Acceptance, Surrender & Time: Why Fighting Life Makes It Harder
    Feb 23 2026
    In this episode of Nat & Mat, we unpack something deceptively simple — acceptance.
    What does it actually mean to surrender? Is surrender weakness… or intelligence? And why does fighting time feel like swimming upstream?
    We explore how resistance creates suffering, how control is often an illusion, and what shifts when we stop trying to bend reality to our will. From personal stories to philosophical detours, this conversation moves through presence, ego, patience, and the strange freedom that comes when you stop arguing with life.
    This one feels calm… but it cuts deep.
    If you’ve ever felt frustrated with how things are unfolding — this episode might land exactly where it needs to.
    —
    Listen. Reflect. Let go (a little).

    Thanks for wandering through the cosmic confusion with us. If you’d like to hear what Nat and Mat sound like when they’re actually trying, listen to their music:
    🎶 Iris Belhaze — mysterious, emotional, indie magic: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nRV37P5mZCDvH0WnB6zlM?si=FkB2ZkjyRU-xP3_FuFAywg
    🎶 Mat Creedon — sonic wizard, bowl banger, occasional philosopher: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0I59ZpA9ngsaNrPOCT1Ct1?si=Xtiz0sSrSDG432F-ntLrqA
    New episodes weekly. No guarantees of sanity.
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    1 h y 8 m
  • What Is Love? (And Why Do We Keep Getting It Wrong?)

    What Is Love? (And Why Do We Keep Getting It Wrong?)
    Feb 12 2026
    In Season 2, Episode 3 of Nat & Mat, we ask one of the most overused — and misunderstood — questions of all time:
    What is love?
    Is it chemistry? Attachment? Devotion? Projection? A biological trick? A spiritual force? Or something we only recognise once it’s gone?
    Nat & Mat dive deep into the layers of romance, ego, expectation, heartbreak, and the uncomfortable truths we don’t like to admit about connection. This isn’t a fluffy conversation about roses and fairy tales — it’s an honest, strange, and sometimes hilarious exploration of what actually drives us toward each other… and away.
    As always, expect sharp turns, unexpected humour, uncomfortable questions, and a few moments that might make you rethink your own story.
    If love is the most powerful force in our lives… why does it confuse us so much?
    🎧 Listen now on Spotify, Apple Music, YouTube, Spreaker and everywhere you get your podcasts.

    Thanks for wandering through the cosmic confusion with us. If you’d like to hear what Nat and Mat sound like when they’re actually trying, listen to their music:
    🎶 Iris Belhaze — mysterious, emotional, indie magic: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nRV37P5mZCDvH0WnB6zlM?si=FkB2ZkjyRU-xP3_FuFAywg
    🎶 Mat Creedon — sonic wizard, bowl banger, occasional philosopher: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0I59ZpA9ngsaNrPOCT1Ct1?si=Xtiz0sSrSDG432F-ntLrqA
    New episodes weekly. No guarantees of sanity.
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    1 h y 3 m
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